Warner Bros to back Blu-ray exclusively!!!!!!
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RoboDad
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Well, given today's announcement, I think that would be a large mistake. My prediction: by the end of 2008, HD DVD will be virtually a dead format. Only Universal and Paramount are now HD DVD exclusive studios, and they will be looking more and more foolish for that decision as the year progresses. I predict that at least one of them (most likely Universal, due to Paramount's current contractual obligations) will be releasing on Blu-ray before the end of summer.
SSC_Nerd
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Wait, what contractural obligations do you speak of? YOU SPEAK OF FOLLY!
Yes, that was most definetly sarcasim.
The ill Jedi
ILLest of 'em all!!
Looks great.
Paramount will be next to jump ship on the 'Red Death'.
Besides, I'd rather have all the Fox and Disney exclusives as well as Superbad on Blu than TF.
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That's what they said last year. And then it was said about BR.
Sony has more money to through at studios for exclusivity. If they can lower the prices of their players, it will be over next year. I think that's the major thing holding them back right now.
RoboDad
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Unfortunately, they can't. They signed an 18 month deal with the HD DVD group to release exclusively on that format. In order to release now on Blu-ray, they'll have to find a loophole in the contract that lets them out of it.
The ill Jedi
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RoboDad
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I can't tell whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, but in either case, you're right about the price of the players, but hopefully that will not be an issue by the time fall rolls around again. Even as it stands right now, Blu-ray players are a whole lot cheaper than they were just six months ago.
The ill Jedi
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I'm more than sure that there is a loophole, that Paramount had some sort of clasue that depended on HD-DVD's ability to sell for them to stick around. i don't see it happening and I feel that PAramount is looking for a way out. Plus, I also read somewhere that Paramount might not have gotten the $150M payoff all at once and it was an incentive laced contract.
This also will spell the end of the BOGO and other great deals (at least as often as the sales are showing up now) on either format soon. Then people will complain about never getting a good deal on new releases anymore.
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A little of both
I don't think it will end that soon because of some of the wise moves that Toshiba has made early on in this war. Two months ago, everyone thought they would win with the lower price of their players and a few exclusives.
I have both so I don't really care who wins. I have 1080p through the PS3 so right now, I buy movies on both formats in BR. I think HD is a little more user friendly at the moment but they both look fantastic.
Competition is what forced the price drops in the first place. I don't see Blu Ray players getting a whole lot cheaper than they are now for a long time. It is also what forced the good deals on movies even though it may not have been "good" for the consumers to have different formats it is what helped drive prices down faster.
metaphorge
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Good. Take that, Micro$oft (which is backing HD-DVD in an effort to kill both formats so they can sell downloadable HD content).
SSC_Nerd
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As crazy a rumor as it is, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, they're trying to buy off all of the downloadable distribution rights from all companies. Microsoft, get to making computer software and quit effin' with Hollywood. It has enough problems already. Trying to rule everything entertainment. You schmuks.
Well, at a point of a different view, I must point out this isn't an official confirmation, so don't get your hopes up too quickly.
However, if this is true then it could really change things. I will then try to buy a Blu-Ray player (PS3) and then that could also mean the we could soon have Star Wars and LOTR in HD, so maybe it's good. And I don't really feel bad about my HD-DVD purchase since it essentially cost very little for the player and what the free movies that I got.
But again, don't take this too seriously until it's officially announced.
However, if this is true then it could really change things. I will then try to buy a Blu-Ray player (PS3) and then that could also mean the we could soon have Star Wars and LOTR in HD, so maybe it's good. And I don't really feel bad about my HD-DVD purchase since it essentially cost very little for the player and what the free movies that I got.
But again, don't take this too seriously until it's officially announced.
RoboDad
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I have (and like) both as well, but I have known for a while now that we needed to end this thing soon, or else risk both formats fading into obscurity. I didn't care WHO won, as long as SOMEONE did. The big change for me is that I won't be buying any more HD DVDs, even from the two remaining exclusive studios. It will either be Blu-ray or SD DVD for me from here on out.
And I do think that it will be realistically "over" before the end of the year (even though it is technically "over" right now). The assumption that Blu-ray players will jump in price due to the lack of HD DVD competition is misplaced. They still have to compete with DVD, and they know it. They will either get prices to a point where people buy the players, or else die. And they don't want to die.
Blu-ray Discs contain their data relatively close to the surface (less than 0.1 mm) which combined with the smaller spot size presents a problem when the surface is scratched as data would be destroyed. To overcome this, TDK, Sony, and Panasonic each have developed a proprietary scratch resistant surface coating. TDK trademarked theirs as Durabis, which has withstood direct abrasion by steel wool and marring with markers in tests.[7] At this point only TDK recordable 25GB Blu-ray discs and DVD-R discs use the Durabis coating.[8]
HD DVD uses traditional material and has the same scratch and surface characteristics of a regular DVD. The data is at the same depth (0.6 mm) as DVD as to minimize damage from scratching. As with DVD the construction of the HD DVD disc allows for a second side of either HD DVD or DVD.
A study performed by Home Media Magazine (August 5, 2007) concluded that HD DVD discs and Blu-ray discs are essentially equal in production cost. Quotes from several disc manufacturers for 25,000 units of HD DVDs and Blu-rays revealed a price differential of only 5-10 cents. (Lowest price: 90 cents versus 100 cents. Highest price: $1.45 versus $1.50.)[9] Another study performed by Wesley Tech (February 9, 2007) arrived at a similar conclusion. Quotes for 10,000 discs show that a 15 gigabyte HD DVD costs $11,500 total, and 25 gigabyte Blu-ray or a 30 gigabyte HD DVD costs $13,000 total.[10] For larger quantities of 100,000 units, the 25 gigabyte Blu-ray was less expensive than the 30 gigabyte HD DVD ($1.49 versus $1.55).[11]
Sales of high definition media in the United States. Week of December 23, 2007. Source: Nielsen VideoScan[56]According to a market research company Nielsen VideoScan, U.S. sales of Blu-ray discs were ahead of HD DVD with 61% of the market for the week ended 2007-12-23. In 2007 U.S. sales, Blu-ray leads with 64% of the market. Since inception, US market share was 62% for Blu-ray and 38% for HD DVD.[57][56] Nielsen also releases normalized sales data (presented in the table to the right). The 2007 sales numbers are in contrast with much of 2006 (before the release of the PlayStation 3) when HD DVD held an early lead. The sales figures Nielsen tracks, however, do not include all points of sale, such as Wal-mart.
Although Blu-ray has sold more discs, the HD DVD group claims that the attach rate (the number of movies bought per player) is higher for HD DVD than for Blu-ray.[58]
HD DVD uses traditional material and has the same scratch and surface characteristics of a regular DVD. The data is at the same depth (0.6 mm) as DVD as to minimize damage from scratching. As with DVD the construction of the HD DVD disc allows for a second side of either HD DVD or DVD.
A study performed by Home Media Magazine (August 5, 2007) concluded that HD DVD discs and Blu-ray discs are essentially equal in production cost. Quotes from several disc manufacturers for 25,000 units of HD DVDs and Blu-rays revealed a price differential of only 5-10 cents. (Lowest price: 90 cents versus 100 cents. Highest price: $1.45 versus $1.50.)[9] Another study performed by Wesley Tech (February 9, 2007) arrived at a similar conclusion. Quotes for 10,000 discs show that a 15 gigabyte HD DVD costs $11,500 total, and 25 gigabyte Blu-ray or a 30 gigabyte HD DVD costs $13,000 total.[10] For larger quantities of 100,000 units, the 25 gigabyte Blu-ray was less expensive than the 30 gigabyte HD DVD ($1.49 versus $1.55).[11]
Sales of high definition media in the United States. Week of December 23, 2007. Source: Nielsen VideoScan[56]According to a market research company Nielsen VideoScan, U.S. sales of Blu-ray discs were ahead of HD DVD with 61% of the market for the week ended 2007-12-23. In 2007 U.S. sales, Blu-ray leads with 64% of the market. Since inception, US market share was 62% for Blu-ray and 38% for HD DVD.[57][56] Nielsen also releases normalized sales data (presented in the table to the right). The 2007 sales numbers are in contrast with much of 2006 (before the release of the PlayStation 3) when HD DVD held an early lead. The sales figures Nielsen tracks, however, do not include all points of sale, such as Wal-mart.
Although Blu-ray has sold more discs, the HD DVD group claims that the attach rate (the number of movies bought per player) is higher for HD DVD than for Blu-ray.[58]
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