Where's the customizers have been

[TheObsoleteMan]

I did this very thing not long ago. Posted a custom mystique Jessica and I teamed up to make. Started with triad parts and it came out unbelievable. I posted here and did not get a single response. Then Jessica posted over on osw and everyone loved it. I dunno, I try and give feedback on almost every custom thread but I do get the sense that there's just not a lot of interest in ppl's personal customs anymore. That just seems to be the way it's gone.

That's what I said in the other thread. That's just the new vibe of this board, people aren't interested in customs, they're interested in stuff they can buy. I'm not saying that's good or bad, it's just the way it is. Places like OSW are more about the hobby of 1/6 than the hobby of collecting.

 

[wofford29]

Thats like saying its a shame that the SW fans don't get to see the LOTR items...

Things should be sorted based on interest and its up to the individual to navigate more than 1 forum if they have multiple interests.

The issue isn't about making people not interested in something interested. Its about making sure that interested people can actually find what they are looking for.

This works both ways, for the sellers and the amateurs. Split it up and it helps everyone.

It's actually not like that at all. Star Wars and LOTR are established properties. If I'm interested I go into those forums. I have no idea what sculpt from what property is being made in the customs section so I come in here to see. I click on a thread that I'm interested in and then "what the hell, I'm already in here" click on another thread that I have no interest in just out of curiousity. The problem seems to be artists work not being seen and getting lost in the shuffle, split them up and they become just not seen.

 

[joebizz34]

No offence but did it ever occur to you people do look at your thread and don't care to comment? Moving the threads people want as Wofford said, isn't going to trick them into giving you more attention, they will continue to walk right past you into the commerce section.

I'm not trying to "trick" anyone in posting in my threads. I'm sure there are a lot of people here who check out threads and don't care to comment. Sometimes I do that too.

I'm referring to some members specifically who are known to only post in someone's thread they like and ignore the rest.

 

[Deckard]

I'm not trying to "trick" anyone in posting in my threads. I'm sure there are a lot of people here who check out threads and don't care to comment. Sometimes I do that too.

I'm referring to some members specifically who are known to only post in someone's thread they like and ignore the rest.

So your problem isn't with the set up at all but memebers who come here for one artist in particular? Thats life. It still sounds like jealousy to me.

 

[ProgMatinee]

The problem seems to be artists work not being seen and getting lost in the shuffle, split them up and they become just not seen.

I don't think that would happen at all. Split it up and its easier to hit the target audience.

IMO, getting 80% attention from 100 people is better than getting 10% attention from 800 people even though it might equal the same amount.

Using trevors' Firefly thread or the whole SW custom section as an example, the conversation within those smaller more targeted audiences have a much better quality discussion than most stuff posted here where people are merely leap frogging from thread to thread.

 

[joebizz34]

So your problem isn't with the set up at all but memebers who come here for one artist in particular? Thats life. It still sounds like jealousy to me.

LOL, that's a good one.

I'm not jealous. I'm just giving some scenarios to what happens here. I also feel that it does relate to seperating interest threads from custom threads. This way members who are only interested in "promoting" a members work to make money can do it in their own section.

Relax, I wasn't trying to start an argument here.

 

[meth head]

That is because the "elitists" don't think it's high quality enough. Anyways, I try to comment on EVERY thread from everyone, just to keep things moving, but I guess in this particular forum I'm spamming it seems.

I can't agree with that at all

If I don't like something I don't like something, it is not about me or anybody else being elitist!

I am not going to be a fake person and comment on a custom I don't like just to 'keep things rolling'

I have always been of the opinion if I like something I will say so if I dislike something I will not bash it definately not but I won't post to say I like something just to make them feel good about it

Does that make me elitist? No I definately think not!

 

[MarfMaster]

I have always been of the opinion if I like something I will say so if I dislike something I will not bash it definately not but I won't post to say I like something just to make them feel good about it

This is the way I conduct myself as well. The main reason being, I want the people who's work I comment on to know my feelings are genuine and that their work has made an impact on me.

Edit: Man, that makes me sound self-important, like anyone cares what I think

 

[Cheungkinmen]

I can't agree with that at all

If I don't like something I don't like something, it is not about me or anybody else being elitist!

I am not going to be a fake person and comment on a custom I don't like just to 'keep things rolling'

I have always been of the opinion if I like something I will say so if I dislike something I will not bash it definately not but I won't post to say I like something just to make them feel good about it

Does that make me elitist? No I definately think not!

I'm not pointing fingers, man, but certainly there are, I'm new to the boards, but that doesn't mean I'm blind. I'm just voicing other peoples frustrations about boardies, long time and new a like, being mean to their works, instead of using constructive criticism they make fun with one liners. There are some that already migrated to OSW because of this.

If people bash my work, who cares, I wouldn't care I know it sucks, but there are others who are more sensitive to this stuff, so that is why I keep quoting Dave and say that people need manners and need to be more supportive of others around the boards.

I'm just saying, I might be seeing things from a different perspective than you all, but that is how I see things.

I don't want to stir things up, anyways, so nevermind.

Peace and love incorporated

 

[meth head]

I'm not pointing fingers, man, but certainly there are, I'm new to the boards, but that doesn't mean I'm blind. I'm just voicing other peoples frustrations about boardies, long time and new a like, being mean to their works, instead of using constructive criticism they make fun with one liners. There are some that already migrated to OSW because of this.

If people bash my work, who cares, I wouldn't care I know it sucks, but there are others who are more sensitive to this stuff, so that is why I keep quoting Dave and say that people need manners and need to be more supportive of others around the boards.

I'm just saying, I might be seeing things from a different perspective than you all, but that is how I see things.

I don't want to stir things up, anyways, so nevermind.

Peace and love incorporated

Yeah sorry I am not trying to be an ass and argue with you

I have always found you to be a really decent boardie and a stand up guy but what you said I couldnt not agree with

This whole thing is just based on opinions and I guess we need to respect that

 

[joebizz34]

This is the way I conduct myself as well. The main reason being, I want the people who's work I comment on to know my feelings are genuine and that their work has made an impact on me.

Edit: Man, that makes me sound self-important, like anyone cares what I think

I agree with what you are saying but what's wrong with giving
criticism? If you are being honest and not just posting something to be rude or insulting, isn't that also being genuine? I would welcome more of that to learn from. If I was jealous, like someone here just recently accussed me of, I would want the fake praise you refer to. However that is not the case. I like honesty good or bad.

 

[meth head]

I agree with what you are saying but what's wrong with giving
criticism? If you are being honest and not just posting something to be rude or insulting, isn't that also being genuine? I would welcome more of that to learn from. If I was jealous, like someone here just recently accussed me of, I would want the fake praise you refer to. However that is not the case. I like honesty good or bad.

I just think it depends on the kind of person you are

I think it is cool you would accept criticism but personally I can't do it out of fear of offending and I really don't want to do that at all!

I think some people find it easy to post what they like about something and dislike but I just can't do that unless its positive, I don't know if that is a good or bad thing but that is the person I am

 

[MarfMaster]

I agree with what you are saying but what's wrong with giving
criticism? If you are being honest and not just posting something to be rude or insulting, isn't that also being genuine? I would welcome more of that to learn from. If I was jealous, like someone here just recently accussed me of, I would want the fake praise you refer to. However that is not the case. I like honesty good or bad.

I hear you, but sometimes even constructive criticism is taken to be stuck up or rude behavior. I applaud you for being open to it, but not everyone is.

I just think it depends on the kind of person you are

I think it is cool you would accept criticism but personally I can't do it out of fear of offending and I really don't want to do that at all!

I think some people find it easy to post what they like about something and dislike but I just can't do that unless its positive, I don't know if that is a good or bad thing but that is the person I am

That is how I feel, I only like to spread goooood vibrations mon

 

[joebizz34]

I just think it depends on the kind of person you are

I think it is cool you would accept criticism but personally I can't do it out of fear of offending and I really don't want to do that at all!

I think some people find it easy to post what they like about something and dislike but I just can't do that unless its positive, I don't know if that is a good or bad thing but that is the person I am

Hey I understand that. I think it's cool that you are a nice person and do not like to accidently insult people.

I look at it like this. It's part of the game here. In other words, if you put yourself out there and post pics of something you've created, then you have to be ready for people to give you feedback. Otherwise, what is the point of posting it in the first place? You are right. Some people here can't handle that. If that's the case, then they shouldn't be posting their work for all to see if they are sensitive. That's just my take. I'm confident enough in what I do that I can deal with negativity. Everyone has opinions and you can't please everyone. When I posted my first figure on here, I did receive both positive and negative feedback. I enjoyed that because the negative feedback was done politely. It was comments like, hey he isn't tall enough, or he's not bulked up enough. That made me go back and tweak the figure. This to me is what it's all about.

 

[galactiboy]

Posting custom work is always tricky... heck even established artists like Feng or Rainman will get pretty harsh criticism. That is a risk anyone runs when they share work.

And certainly I don't think anyone should feel obligated to post comments or fake praise if you don't care for a piece. But by the same token if you decide to share your work expect you might get 1) positive feedback, 2) constructive criticism, 3) unconstructive criticism or 4) ignored.

Just all part of being big boys and girls

But this stuff is beside the point to me, commerce and customs are different animals and I'd like to see them both have their own cage. If it doesn't happen I'll live, but I agree with the OP on this one

 

[joebizz34]

Posting custom work is always tricky... heck even established artists like Feng or Rainman will get pretty harsh criticism. That is a risk anyone runs when they share work.

And certainly I don't think anyone should feel obligated to post comments or fake praise if you don't care for a piece. But by the same token if you decide to share your work expect you might get 1) positive feedback, 2) constructive criticism, 3) unconstructive criticism or 4) ignored.

Just all part of being big boys and girls

But this stuff is beside the point to me, commerce and customs are different animals and I'd like to see them both have their own cage. If it doesn't happen I'll live, but I agree with the OP on this one

I agree with that too even though the topic may have gotten a little side tracked.

 

[Darklord Dave]

As Ray pointed out, we did it before and it didn't work out, thats why it is the way it is now, nothing is wrong, if its not broke don't fix it.

Not to be a ____ but it seems like elvis complained and all the sudden its like lets overhaul the whole thing. Again why? What he wants is a place to show his work, I don't see whats wrong with the show your shelves section or the thread he has in this one.

All this thread really accomplished was bringing a few people who don't even customize into this section to be a ____ and take a cheap shot at the prices customizers are charging from what I can gather.

This thread just happened to coincide with my own initiative to promote the forum on facebook by cross posting original content there. And one source of original content on this forum is custom figures.

Not true, what he wants is to get the chance to see other people work, and to encourage them to post their work.

Exactly - and the commerce threads interfere with that.

Also there seems to be some confusion about "Show your shelves" - that's intended solely for how people display their collectibles - not really for individual pieces.

 

[gdb]

Also there seems to be some confusion about "Show your shelves" - that's intended solely for how people display their collectibles - not really for individual pieces.

I love the pun! But sometimes puns confuse people.

 

[EVILFACE]

Yep, this is what I see as one of the major differences now then when I first joined. Typically custom artists (be it sculpting, painting, ewing, kitbashing, etc.) would have a master thread dedicated to their work and updating customers if they took projects.

Now most artists have multiple threads dedicated to individual projects which certainly pushes back the individual customizer threads. This proliferation of project/limted run/commission threads has made this more like a commerce section than a forum for sharing art.
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Not only that, they have a thread in the customs section and then the exact same item in the customs section and in the discussion area and bleeds over into a licensed products thread, where it doesn't belong. Put it in the customs section and stop whoring it out to other areas.

 

[ProgMatinee]

How can you have dedicated threads for people like Kato when he has 10 different people do the pimping of his stuff for him?

Seperate issue, and I guess I'm alone on this, but it would be nice to see people actually handle their own business (and more discretely) to limit the chances of shenanigans.