Why is your 1:2 Iron man so thin???

[Atheris]

This piece is very impressive while on display ... see AVERONE's pics.

HOWEVER, after seeing the GUTS (what this is made of), i would NEVER pay the money Sideshow is asking...NEVER

This piece is like a girl who wears SPANX...or spanks (you know...the tights tights that keep their ass lookin' nice, and stomach tucked in) After it's exposed for what it truly is, you can never look at it the same.

...ya I guess its kinda like that.

Chris

 

[Atheris]

Spoke to SS reps today and I got two different responses from what dusty has said on this matter. One being that SS hasn't had any issues with this piece since its release...and second that SS isn't planning on changing the overall thickness or casting to this piece. So what's the real answer?...SS always says to call their customer support line with any questions. But they never seem to have any answers to the questions OR they just dodge the question. Are we ever going to get a REAL answer?

Chris

 

[ozzfan84]

One being that SS hasn't had any issues with this piece since its release

I LOVE Sideshow. I really do. But they say this kind of thing every time something huge happens. Look back at their response to the paint flaking issues. It's almost laughable.

I have more faith in companies when they come out and explain it. Like when that other guy who makes statues came out and admitted that one of the factories he was using was messing up paint jobs and he had ceased production and cut the edition size, and he will never use that factory again.

For the price and sheer of that piece, it should be close to solid, if not completely solid. My CM Predator feels like it must be solid. Big pieces need that. Heck, small pieces need that.

 

[thx217]

One being that SS hasn't had any issues with this piece since its release...and second that SS isn't planning on changing the overall thickness or casting to this piece.

Now that the joke of the day. Whoever that Rep. was, he/she just work there, that's it.

 

[Superman]

Spoke to SS reps today and I got two different responses from what dusty has said on this matter. One being that SS hasn't had any issues with this piece since its release...and second that SS isn't planning on changing the overall thickness or casting to this piece. So what's the real answer?...SS always says to call their customer support line with any questions. But they never seem to have any answers to the questions OR they just dodge the question. Are we ever going to get a REAL answer?

Chris

I hope they listen to all of us since so few of these have gone out. They should take the loss and fix the machines so they make the casting thicker. If they do not do this, then this statue will not sell and very few people will take a risk buying this on the secondary market meaning the value for re-sale drops. Overall things do not look good if they keep the status quo. If Sideshow comes out and apologizes for the thin casting, says they will make it thicker as well as improve the packaging and perhaps even paint application (I know its a stretch, but I'd be happy with just thicker..lol) Then sideshow saves face as a legitimate museum quality piece producer and all of us IM fans can feel comfortable placing an order for this on a flex pay which is the only way I would order this..

 

[fuzzylojiks]

I do understand the need for having lightweight products for shipping purposes, but I think they made it overthin from the pic especially for a $2k piece, and it definitely could cause problems down the road as well. Hope this is rectified.

 

[Dusty]

Spoke to SS reps today and I got two different responses from what dusty has said on this matter. One being that SS hasn't had any issues with this piece since its release...and second that SS isn't planning on changing the overall thickness or casting to this piece. So what's the real answer?...SS always says to call their customer support line with any questions. But they never seem to have any answers to the questions OR they just dodge the question. Are we ever going to get a REAL answer?

Chris

Due to the very small number of pieces that have gone out - and thus the even smaller number that have had any problem in shipment - chances are that it's not been cycled through Customer Service officially just yet. The Returns department is the dept that deals with the any damage issues.

Basically, it boils down to these options (if you want it - if you don't want it, or never planned on ordering it, that's fine too!):

1) If you really want it, order it. If, when it arrives, you are disappointed in ANY way and don't want to keep it, contact the Returns department and they will issue refund of the purchase price.

2) If you don't want to "take that chance" yet, by all means, wait it out and make your decision after more people have received it and reported back with their thoughts and experiences.

 

[Superman]

Due to the very small number of pieces that have gone out - and thus the even smaller number that have had any problem in shipment - chances are that it's not been cycled through Customer Service officially just yet. The Returns department is the dept that deals with the any damage issues.

Basically, it boils down to these options (if you want it - if you don't want it, or never planned on ordering it, that's fine too!):

1) If you really want it, order it. If, when it arrives, you are disappointed in ANY way and don't want to keep it, contact the Returns department and they will issue refund of the purchase price.

2) If you don't want to "take that chance" yet, by all means, wait it out and make your decision after more people have received it and reported back with their thoughts and experiences.

You said they are making improvements to this in your last post, yet this one you don't mention that at all. If you want people to order this, we all need more than just a sit and wait attitude. WE need MORE INFORMATION as to exactly what is being done.

 

[Atheris]

Due to the very small number of pieces that have gone out - and thus the even smaller number that have had any problem in shipment - chances are that it's not been cycled through Customer Service officially just yet. The Returns department is the dept that deals with the any damage issues.

Basically, it boils down to these options (if you want it - if you don't want it, or never planned on ordering it, that's fine too!):

1) If you really want it, order it. If, when it arrives, you are disappointed in ANY way and don't want to keep it, contact the Returns department and they will issue refund of the purchase price.

2) If you don't want to "take that chance" yet, by all means, wait it out and make your decision after more people have received it and reported back with their thoughts and experiences.

Dusty,
Although I do appreciate your time in responding to this thread. Your response has yet again not answered OR dodged my original question. I titled this thread "Why is your 1:2 Iron man so thin???"...still no one AT SS or yourself have been able to answer this question. Your response above hasnt addressed at all what were all asking. You are basically saying take your chances and find out. We MAY change it...we MAY not. The only way to find out is to throw down 2k on the statue. When the whole reason for this thread and everyones hesitation to order is because this statue is being produced paper thin. Your first option is a complete oversite to the original question. We are TELLING SS why we are not happy. However option 1 completly negates what we are telling you. So....I will pose the question once more very simply...

***IS SS GOING TO MAKE THE 1:2 IRON MAN MAQUETTE THICKER?***

Thanks
Chris

 

[freestylex06x]

probably not man, if you were trying to make a profit why would you go back and remake everything just to satisfy a couple of freaks on the web

 

[mr.thrifty]

That's how it goes... if you want it and it arrives damaged or you are dissatified return it for a refund.. other then that STFU!!

I wouldn't expect any more then that from SS... just take it how it is..being that there will always be people upset or dissatified with whatever they put out it's a take it or leave it situtation..

 

[Atheris]

Why should it be a "take it or leave it situation"? Is SS in the business of giving customers what they want...or what SS feels like? How could any business operate successfully with that mentality?

Cinemaquette's Predator is SOLID ploystone, weighs 90lbs with an excellent paint job, display base and awesome quality art box ALSO WITH light up feature on his arm. Limited to 1000 pieces with COA an priced at.... $2000

Sideshows Iron man maquette is polystone, fiberglass and metal.....apparently (but its a secret). Completely hollow and about 2mm thin, weighs barely 25lbs (despite being 10" taller than the CM predator), sporting an "iffy" paint application, has a light up feature and comes in a cheap brown cardboard art box...WITH unlimited edition size. Also.....$2000

Which product to you screams quality?...which do you believe is more deserving of a $2000 price tag?
The difference here is that Cinemaquette gave customers what they wanted...making it a sought after successful piece.
Sideshows 1:2 Iron man has left much to be desired, much like the 1:1 bust.

Chris

 

[mr.thrifty]

Why should it be a "take it or leave it situation"? Is SS in the business of giving customers what they want...or what SS feels like? How could any business operate successfully with that mentality?

Cinemaquette's Predator is SOLID ploystone, weighs 90lbs with an excellent paint job, display base and awesome quality art box ALSO WITH light up feature on his arm. Limited to 1000 pieces with COA an priced at.... $2000

Sideshows Iron man maquette is polystone, fiberglass and metal.....apparently (but its a secret). Completely hollow and about 2mm thin, weighs barely 25lbs (despite being 10" taller than the CM predator), sporting an "iffy" paint application, has a light up feature and comes in a cheap brown cardboard art box...WITH unlimited edition size. Also.....$2000

Which product to you screams quality?...which do you believe is more deserving of a $2000 price tag?

Chris

I agree with you.. it's cheaply made.. but it's not going to change until it hits their pocket book. what are you gonna do?

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Why should it be a "take it or leave it situation"? Is SS in the business of giving customers what they want...or what SS feels like? How could any business operate successfully with that mentality?

Cinemaquette's Predator is SOLID ploystone, weighs 90lbs with an excellent paint job, display base and awesome quality art box ALSO WITH light up feature on his arm. Limited to 1000 pieces with COA an priced at.... $2000

Sideshows Iron man maquette is polystone, fiberglass and metal.....apparently (but its a secret). Completely hollow and about 2mm thin, weighs barely 25lbs (despite being 10" taller than the CM predator), sporting an "iffy" paint application, has a light up feature and comes in a cheap brown cardboard art box...WITH unlimited edition size. Also.....$2000

Which product to you screams quality?...which do you believe is more deserving of a $2000 price tag?
The difference here is that Cinemaquette gave customers what they wanted...making it a sought after successful piece.
Sideshows 1:2 Iron man has left much to be desired, much like the 1:1 bust.

Chris

I agree with you.. it's cheaply made.. but it's not going to change until it hits their pocket book. what are you gonna do?

I agree wholeheartedly with you about it being a low on price for pound value scale, but mr.thrifty has a point, I think you got your answer already from dusty's responses. I do applaud the valiant effort Atheris. I think the only thing left for consumers is vote with their wallets and not get it if you think the quality is lacking (or get it if you feel otherwise). With no edition size set for a high price point product I don't think there will be a big rush to get it and most will employ a further wait and see mentality.

 

[Darklord Dave]

I just want SS to come on here or their website and say they will be making these statues MUCH thicker. Like an inch-2 inches thick overall. Then I will consider placing and order for this piece. Until that happens I have no interest in adding this to my collection. Although it kills me to not have this since I waited so long to order this and it looks so dam cool. This is the 2nd time SS has let me down on an IM collectible I REALLY wanted to have. First the 1:1 bust and now this.....when will it end.

Chris

It doesn't really make sense to make a statement about what could be a non-problem that has only been reported by .0002% of people who ordered the thing.

Panicking before you receive it because their MIGHT be a problem is a bit silly.

 

[Superman]

Why should it be a "take it or leave it situation"? Is SS in the business of giving customers what they want...or what SS feels like? How could any business operate successfully with that mentality?

Cinemaquette's Predator is SOLID ploystone, weighs 90lbs with an excellent paint job, display base and awesome quality art box ALSO WITH light up feature on his arm. Limited to 1000 pieces with COA an priced at.... $2000

Sideshows Iron man maquette is polystone, fiberglass and metal.....apparently (but its a secret). Completely hollow and about 2mm thin, weighs barely 25lbs (despite being 10" taller than the CM predator), sporting an "iffy" paint application, has a light up feature and comes in a cheap brown cardboard art box...WITH unlimited edition size. Also.....$2000

Which product to you screams quality?...which do you believe is more deserving of a $2000 price tag?
The difference here is that Cinemaquette gave customers what they wanted...making it a sought after successful piece.
Sideshows 1:2 Iron man has left much to be desired, much like the 1:1 bust.

Chris

As others have stated, it is no more than a $500- $700 statue at most considering it is not that intricate to paint being only two solid colors and grease marks in all the joint areas which to me screams laziness. I know Sideshow prices have gone up, and this IM is a prime example that quality has gone down as well. They have made a name for themselves with quality products in the past that are now more valuable because of it. People are still buying their products at a much higher price point so their profit margin is larger than before. Ultimately I am guilty of buying lots of Sideshow products over the years. However if this is what we get, and this is the feedback we get from Sideshow.. It simply shows a lack of caring and knowing what their buyers want. And quality should be number 1.. Price should be equal to the quality. I don't think even Averone would disagree with me on these points.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Also - how are you getting 1 mm from this picture? It appears that the white part might be that thin, but the dark red is another 5 mm. Just judging from this picture.

 

[Superman]

Also - how are you getting 1 mm from this picture? It appears that the white part might be that thin, but the dark red is another 5 mm. Just judging from this picture.

Why are you trying to defend Sideshow's decision here to maximize profit by lowering the quality of this IM? A statue is only as strong as its weakest link. Look at the back of the knee. In this case, the back of the knee pic is very thin at less than 1 mm and that was enough to cause a break in the whole knee.. And actually the painted area you are describing on the side of the knee is 5 mm back because it is an indent. You are being fooled by an optical allusion that it is part of the white. The white part next to the ruler is the thickness, not the painted are above it which is further back..You have to think three dimensionally here.

It doesn't really make sense to make a statement about what could be a non-problem that has only been reported by .0002% of people who ordered the thing.

Panicking before you receive it because their MIGHT be a problem is a bit silly.

If you want to get picky with numbers, your math is wrong here.. .0002% would mean less than one would have a problem. One person in this forum was sent two broken ones in a row and is waiting for a third. Two others people received broken statue's as well in this forum. Only Sideshow knows of the other non-forum members having issue's. However sending one of their employees to let us know improvements will occur shows they are reading our posts and know they made a mistake making this statue too thin. Obviously they made it thin in the first place to maximize their profits. Let us hope Sideshow doesn't make the same mistake going forward with other large polystone statues and if they are smart, will announce a fix to this current statue's issue's and not just making the packaging better.

 

[devilof76]

Three people?

 

[tnaig001]

Also - how are you getting 1 mm from this picture? It appears that the white part might be that thin, but the dark red is another 5 mm. Just judging from this picture.

Hey Dave. I think the white part is the thickness cos you can't add paint to it.

The red part is probably the undersurface. Its quite impossible for the connecting thickness to get painted unless its cast in that colour.

That said, I am glad Dusty has said that something is being done