1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - Iron Man Mark 43 Collectible Figure
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Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
Yes they are painted with high gloss paint. They are painted with automotive laquer. I can give you the paint code. Same paint used on cars. Which is, in fact, high gloss. Are they polished, no. But the paint is a gloss paint.
And great you work in effects. I'm as impressed by your statement as you are by mine. Out of curiosity who do you work for?
And yes I used photos that illustrated my point. Would you have preferred I used photos of a pink teddy bear? Of course I used photos to illustrate my point. Duh.
As for the other persons comment about a car going supersonic...no it does not. Obviously. But an f22 or f18 does. And the paint on those does not change from gloss to matte or anything else. What paint type is applied is how it looks after a flight. As for your statement about car washes and getting dirty...that's irrelevant. It doesn't change the paint finish. And the fact you can wash it off makes my point. The paint is the same.
My whole point has been that because something looks matte, or gloss, does not mean it looks "more" like metal then the other. Once it's painted it looks like what ever paint you use. You may like a matte finish or gloss finish, but that does not make it any more "authentic" or realistic and it doesn't make it any cheaper or less quality.
Yes they are painted with high gloss paint. They are painted with automotive laquer. I can give you the paint code. Same paint used on cars. Which is, in fact, high gloss. Are they polished, no. But the paint is a gloss paint.
And great you work in effects. I'm as impressed by your statement as you are by mine. Out of curiosity who do you work for?
And yes I used photos that illustrated my point. Would you have preferred I used photos of a pink teddy bear? Of course I used photos to illustrate my point. Duh.
As for the other persons comment about a car going supersonic...no it does not. Obviously. But an f22 or f18 does. And the paint on those does not change from gloss to matte or anything else. What paint type is applied is how it looks after a flight. As for your statement about car washes and getting dirty...that's irrelevant. It doesn't change the paint finish. And the fact you can wash it off makes my point. The paint is the same.
My whole point has been that because something looks matte, or gloss, does not mean it looks "more" like metal then the other. Once it's painted it looks like what ever paint you use. You may like a matte finish or gloss finish, but that does not make it any more "authentic" or realistic and it doesn't make it any cheaper or less quality.
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Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
what's the paint code?
what's the paint code?
Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
I don't want to get in a pissing contest, which I'll take the blame for starting as I think we're getting away from my original point. You were saying that even though someone liked the duller paint job, it wasn't necessarily like the props as they were high gloss and all I was trying to point out was that until AoU the prop suits had a more of a satin finish.
With regards to the 'using images to prove a point' line, what I meant by that was I said that the VI suit was a prop and you posted an image of just a helmet saying it was all CG, to which I wanted to imply that you were posting certain images that were falsely reinforcing your point of that suit not being a prop.
As far as VFX studios, I doubt you heard of us...RealtimeUK. We mainly do game cinematics (things like Motorstorm and Smite) with a little VFX every now and again. What was you role in IM 1 and 2...I actually could care less, being involved in those sounds ace!
I don't want to get in a pissing contest, which I'll take the blame for starting as I think we're getting away from my original point. You were saying that even though someone liked the duller paint job, it wasn't necessarily like the props as they were high gloss and all I was trying to point out was that until AoU the prop suits had a more of a satin finish.
With regards to the 'using images to prove a point' line, what I meant by that was I said that the VI suit was a prop and you posted an image of just a helmet saying it was all CG, to which I wanted to imply that you were posting certain images that were falsely reinforcing your point of that suit not being a prop.
As far as VFX studios, I doubt you heard of us...RealtimeUK. We mainly do game cinematics (things like Motorstorm and Smite) with a little VFX every now and again. What was you role in IM 1 and 2...I actually could care less, being involved in those sounds ace!
Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
haha I'm immediately reminded of this...
haha I'm immediately reminded of this...
Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
When I saw both the new mark 43's at a recent toy convention, not sure what is was exactly but something with the 1/4 that made it look so much more like a shrunken down movie prop rather than a toy figure. The paint application just looked soooo metal, the body flaps so thin, the proportions so believable, whatever it was made this figure look stunning. Panning back and forth between the 1/4 scale and the 1/6 scale the difference was massive and my much loved 1/6 scale figure suddenly looked a little bit cheaper.
I think HT figures are still improving...just when I think that things cannot get better I get pleasantly surprised.
When I saw both the new mark 43's at a recent toy convention, not sure what is was exactly but something with the 1/4 that made it look so much more like a shrunken down movie prop rather than a toy figure. The paint application just looked soooo metal, the body flaps so thin, the proportions so believable, whatever it was made this figure look stunning. Panning back and forth between the 1/4 scale and the 1/6 scale the difference was massive and my much loved 1/6 scale figure suddenly looked a little bit cheaper.
I think HT figures are still improving...just when I think that things cannot get better I get pleasantly surprised.
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Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
Isn't it easier to capture small details and proper thickness, snicker, at a larger scale?
Isn't it easier to capture small details and proper thickness, snicker, at a larger scale?
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Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
yes, to a degree, just like you cab do more at 1:1
But the problems with HT's 1/6 is the shoulder armor (could redo as one thinner piece as theres no BD swapping) and the girth of the lower torso, but thats a more minor issue
yes, to a degree, just like you cab do more at 1:1
But the problems with HT's 1/6 is the shoulder armor (could redo as one thinner piece as theres no BD swapping) and the girth of the lower torso, but thats a more minor issue
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How do you recon this figure rates against Sideshow's 1:4 scale statues then (specifically the mark 42 & Iron Patriot)?
How do you recon this figure rates against Sideshow's 1:4 scale statues then (specifically the mark 42 & Iron Patriot)?
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Going off what others have shown, I'd say this would knock any Sideshow stuff out of the water. I don't have any sideshow stuff so it's not really a fair comment, but to me all of Sideshows statues look soft (the faceplate on the 1/2 scale VII for example). This thing looks crisp!
Going off what others have shown, I'd say this would knock any Sideshow stuff out of the water. I don't have any sideshow stuff so it's not really a fair comment, but to me all of Sideshows statues look soft (the faceplate on the 1/2 scale VII for example). This thing looks crisp!
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I'm pondering on getting a few bigger pieces for a display & when I saw Sideshow is going to make a fair few statues I thought they'd be the ones for me..., since then though I'm not so sure as the poses of the mark 42 & Iron Patriot look too similar & then there's the War Wachine repaint plus the mess up with the mark II base & a not so great pose..., this is not the wow factor I was after. lol
I kind of like the idea of these figures though, at least I can pose them that way & they won't look awkward (well hopefully not). Depends on the price ultimately though, I'm not sure what they'll cost or how many they intend to make & I'd hate for it to just be a one off..., although I'm sure a mark 42 would be released too (for obvious reasons).
I'm pondering on getting a few bigger pieces for a display & when I saw Sideshow is going to make a fair few statues I thought they'd be the ones for me..., since then though I'm not so sure as the poses of the mark 42 & Iron Patriot look too similar & then there's the War Wachine repaint plus the mess up with the mark II base & a not so great pose..., this is not the wow factor I was after. lol
I kind of like the idea of these figures though, at least I can pose them that way & they won't look awkward (well hopefully not). Depends on the price ultimately though, I'm not sure what they'll cost or how many they intend to make & I'd hate for it to just be a one off..., although I'm sure a mark 42 would be released too (for obvious reasons).
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I said the top image, the full suit was a CG suit and not a real suit on a guy.
And then I said that outside of one scene in im2 (the donut shop scene) Almost all of the suit shots are at best half a suit real prop the rest CG. And just to illustrate my point that nearly every shot in the finished movie was CG enhanced I grabbed the only photo I had on my phone. And for whatever reason you didn't get that. Again, the full suit photo(top) was a pub shot CG gen image suit and the other was a screen grab if I recall correct. And I can't remember if RDJ had the armor on for real or not. But one of the photos you used was a live shot and it showed exactly what I was saying...most the suit was added CG.
And your point that until AoU the suits used a satin finish is what I am disagreeing with. The suits where painted with automotive paint. Which is a gloss paint. Volkswagen and Nissan paint mostly. It's a gloss paint.
As for what I did on the movies, if you don't care then what difference does it make?
You are correct, I had not heard about the company you work for. But that doesn't mean much, VG graphics isn't a field I've spent a lot of time in. Whole different world from movie/tv effects. Cool stuff though. Just worlds apart.
I said the top image, the full suit was a CG suit and not a real suit on a guy.
And then I said that outside of one scene in im2 (the donut shop scene) Almost all of the suit shots are at best half a suit real prop the rest CG. And just to illustrate my point that nearly every shot in the finished movie was CG enhanced I grabbed the only photo I had on my phone. And for whatever reason you didn't get that. Again, the full suit photo(top) was a pub shot CG gen image suit and the other was a screen grab if I recall correct. And I can't remember if RDJ had the armor on for real or not. But one of the photos you used was a live shot and it showed exactly what I was saying...most the suit was added CG.
And your point that until AoU the suits used a satin finish is what I am disagreeing with. The suits where painted with automotive paint. Which is a gloss paint. Volkswagen and Nissan paint mostly. It's a gloss paint.
As for what I did on the movies, if you don't care then what difference does it make?
You are correct, I had not heard about the company you work for. But that doesn't mean much, VG graphics isn't a field I've spent a lot of time in. Whole different world from movie/tv effects. Cool stuff though. Just worlds apart.
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Look, whatever. I'm was just trying to stop this escalating. Gloss paint, not gloss paint, Nissan Merlot Red, Volkswagan Who Gives ******...I don't care anymore.
These two are not the same finish. Whether they start off as the same paint but have had different treatments afterwards is another story and it's not one I can be bothered with.
Look, whatever. I'm was just trying to stop this escalating. Gloss paint, not gloss paint, Nissan Merlot Red, Volkswagan Who Gives ******...I don't care anymore.
These two are not the same finish. Whether they start off as the same paint but have had different treatments afterwards is another story and it's not one I can be bothered with.
kevb0977
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I've never had any issues really, only thing that comes to mind is my Stormtrooper premium format..., the scumbags sent me a repaired one & sold it as new.
Well there quality control certainly is
I've never had any issues really, only thing that comes to mind is my Stormtrooper premium format..., the scumbags sent me a repaired one & sold it as new.
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well its not terrible but its not great either.... sometimes we only ever see the faults
well its not terrible but its not great either.... sometimes we only ever see the faults
kevb0977
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I think when things go as they should although we're pleased, we expect it. When things go wrong, we're disappointed & then there's all the added agro of getting the thing resolved (either replaced, refunded or what ever)..., successful transactions shouldn't stand out so much if it's the norm (we hope).
well its not terrible but its not great either.... sometimes we only ever see the faults
I think when things go as they should although we're pleased, we expect it. When things go wrong, we're disappointed & then there's all the added agro of getting the thing resolved (either replaced, refunded or what ever)..., successful transactions shouldn't stand out so much if it's the norm (we hope).
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Re: 1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - 1/4 Iron Man Mark 43 Figure
I think when things go as they should although we're pleased, we expect it. When things go wrong, we're disappointed & then there's all the added agro of getting the thing resolved (either replaced, refunded or what ever)..., successful transactions shouldn't stand out so much if it's the norm (we hope).
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Yeah totally, but there was just something else...can't quite put my finger on it. Possibly a combination of factors but a major part was just how metallic the figure looked in a realistic way for lack of a better description. Up till that point i've always thought that the 1/6 iron men looked metallic whether they were diecast or plastic. But afterwards they just looked kinda underwhelming.
Sadly, I have no plans to venture back into the 1/4 scale arena since I've sold off my EB T2 and Bruce Lee. Space is not something we have too much of here in Asia...75% of my collection currently sits in a storage locker already. I think I have a bit of hoarder mentality.
Yeah totally, but there was just something else...can't quite put my finger on it. Possibly a combination of factors but a major part was just how metallic the figure looked in a realistic way for lack of a better description. Up till that point i've always thought that the 1/6 iron men looked metallic whether they were diecast or plastic. But afterwards they just looked kinda underwhelming.
Sadly, I have no plans to venture back into the 1/4 scale arena since I've sold off my EB T2 and Bruce Lee. Space is not something we have too much of here in Asia...75% of my collection currently sits in a storage locker already. I think I have a bit of hoarder mentality.
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