1/6 Hot Toys Dark Knight Rises Batman

[Karnis]

 

[intothevoid]

The worst part is it's a moderator thats fueling it.

I'm having a civilized discussion. If people want to respond in an uncivilized manner, that's not on me.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

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[greygoose]

 

[DiFabio]

"More padded" or not, it looks different even in the same scene.


It's all bloated, misaligned and awkward in this one.

Because he's fighting and in movement with his head down.


Then it's perfectly fine right here, just like in TDK. He's not straining or making an extreme movement. Looks the same.

So it's different in two shots . . . of the same scene. Should Hot Toys make two different necks to accommodate? No, that's stupid.


Let's say Hot Toys doesn't notice things like untucked gloves or a thicker neck, are you guys pointing it out going to customize it?

Example, are you going to cut the ends off of the gloves to make it appear untucked?

Be careful how you answer, I'm ready to attack.

 

[intothevoid]

Let's say Hot Toys doesn't notice things like untucked gloves or a thicker neck, are you guys pointing it out going to customize it?

Example, are you going to cut the ends off of the gloves to make it appear untucked?

Be careful how you answer, I'm ready to attack.

You already know the answer to this

Of course I will customize it

 

[ZaCHw117]

"More padded" or not, it looks different even in the same scene.


It's all bloated, misaligned and awkward in this one.

Because he's fighting and in movement with his head down.


Then it's perfectly fine right here, just like in TDK. He's not straining or making an extreme movement. Looks the same.

So it's different in two shots . . . of the same scene. Should Hot Toys make two different necks to accommodate? No, that's stupid.


Let's say Hot Toys doesn't notice things like untucked gloves or a thicker neck, are you guys pointing it out going to customize it?

Example, are you going to cut the ends off of the gloves to make it appear untucked?

Be careful how you answer, I'm ready to attack.

I see where you are coming from for the different movements, but can you find any shots of the TDK suit bending and that protrusive when in movement?

Plus, looking at Bale, he has bulked up more than in TDK, so it could just be the suit accommodating his size.

And I won't be customizing it. I'm by no means a customizer, so it would be nice for HT to get this as right as possible. And judging by the teaser alone it looks like the neck has been bulked up enough.

 

[DarkMagic]

I'll defend Jokes and Bats here even though I think everyone in this thread is being ridiculous.

There needs to be a voice of reason and I will be that voice.




"There’s very few changes. The only modifications are to do with the story. But I can’t tell you what they are…"

- Lindy Hemming



No costume changes. The modifications are within the story, not the actual costume. The suit is the same suit from 2007 with negligible differences (like the little minor finds of . . . OH MY GOD TUCKED AND UNTUCKED GLOVES and, DAT NECK).

The same suit. The same suit. The same suit.


TDK suit = TDKR


As for Hot Toys I doubt they're even concerned with the above. I'm sure they've seen pictures, set pics and footage of Batman in TDKR and thought "OOO, AHHH, SAME SUIT, WE JUST MAKE LAST ONE BETTER".

That's exactly what I'd do, that's exactly what Mattel and Hasbro would do. That's what Enterbay, Medicom and all other action figure companies would do.

I guess you didn't see the posts from myself and others that pretty much share your opinion. The difference is negligible to some of us. It doesn't matter to me if the neck is perfectly scaled to TDK or TDKR. Of course it is noticeable and does matter to some here, so for their benefit, it's no problem to me if the final neck matches their exact expections of a TDKR neck or a TDK neck--it's not going to bother me either way (....as long as it is better than the DX02 neck! )

Basically, for those of us who see no difference, (or see a difference when we try real hard, but don't really care about that difference) it shouldn't matter that others want a perfectly TDKR-scaled neck and are vocal about it. The matter is important to them, so hopefully they will be satisfied with the final figure...the rest of us are probably going to be satified/not notice either way. If this particular detail is not important to others (like me) there is no reason to argue with those for which this is important.

 

[intothevoid]

I guess you didn't see the posts from myself and others that pretty much share your opinion. The difference is negligible to some of us. It doesn't matter to me if the neck is perfectly scaled to TDK or TDKR. Of course it is noticeable and does matter to some here, so for their benefit, it's no problem to me if the final neck matches their exact expections of a TDKR neck or a TDK neck--it's not going to bother me either way (....as long as it is better than the DX02 neck! )

Basically, for those of us who see no difference, (or see a difference when we try real hard, but don't really care about that difference) it shouldn't matter that others want a perfectly TDKR-scaled neck and are vocal about it. The matter is important to them, so hopefully they will be satisfied with the final figure...the rest of us are probably going to be satified/not notice either way. If this particular detail is not important to others (like me) there is no reason to argue with those for which this is important.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'm having a civilized discussion... in an uncivilized manner

Fixed!


What's happening here? For a minute I thought I was in the movie thread, but there's no Nam here.

 

[TheProcrastinator]

It's the same neck. The same design. The same suit.

Whatever difference some of You seem to see in the curvature of the neck, is due to the fact that its a moving, segmented piece. It changes. The plates align and look differently depending on the pose that Bale takes. If You would take the trouble of browsing through the screengrabs of TDK, You would see that the neck looks differently depending on the shot, depending on the way Bale holds his head. Sometimes its curved, sometimes it more bull-necked. The on-set pics of Bats that all of You are refferencing, show Bale in a stunt-costume in the middle of making a battle scene. The frigging neck looks different in every shot of that gallery.

And even if the changes are true, after all costume designer supposedly confirmed a different neck. Those changes are likely to be only in the inner workings of the suit, or the materials used. Couse there is no external difference visible. Judging from the on-set pics, it may seem that the plates are made from a softer, more strechable material. But since when do we expect 1/6 figures in this hobby, to show the properties of the materials used in the original props? How do You all think Hot Toys is supposed to show that change? You say the TDKR neck plates are more mallable? Fine. But the external design is the same. Christ, if I was a HT sculptor I wouldn't even know how to show that change, even if I cared about it. Expecting HT to create a different sculpt of a piece, that looks 100% the same, but is just made of different stuff(supposedly), let alone demanding a second, separate neck is...silly.

Or to put it in other words: The external difference in the look of the neck -if there is indeed any at all(I say not)- is so microscopic, that if HT would make a neck that would be even slightly wrong, none of You would be able to tell, if its due to the fact that they ignored the new design, or just made an off looking sculpt of it.

 

[ZaCHw117]

It's the same neck. The same design. The same suit.

Even if the neck is the same, it's not the same suit. Gloves are different.

 

[greygoose]

Even if the neck is the same, it's not the same suit. Gloves are different.

Isn't it just a case of the same gloves but just that they are tucked in?

 

[ZaCHw117]

Isn't it just a case of the same gloves but just that they are tucked in?

Yup.

That's what I meant.

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[Sachiel]

All I want from Hot Toys is a proportionate neck that actually looks close to what it does in the films.

The tucked in gloves are going to be a change consistent throughout TDKR, judging by the trailers and stills. Hot Toys would have to make new gauntlets (extend the wrist area) and most likely have to make new hand sculpts so the wrists wouldn't look weird and there would be no loss of articulation. So I doubt Hot Toys is going to fix that detail.

 

[DiFabio]

I guess you didn't see the posts from myself and others that pretty much share your opinion. The difference is negligible to some of us.

I don't read everyone's posts DarkMagic. When I came in at that point and time it seemed like Jokes and Bats vs. the board. Looking back you and a few others agree with me, great.

Unless you mean the "voice of reason" comment got to you, that was sort of a joke. My bad. I do have this tendency to post in crazed, "better than thou", hyperbole

Basically, for those of us who see no difference, (or see a difference when we try real hard, but don't really care about that difference) it shouldn't matter that others want a perfectly TDKR-scaled neck and are vocal about it. The matter is important to them, so hopefully they will be satisfied with the final figure...the rest of us are probably going to be satified/not notice either way. If this particular detail is not important to others (like me) there is no reason to argue with those for which this is important.

But they look like blithering idiots (no offense, eh, kinda offensive).

If one were to pose the question, "so is the costume the same one from TDK for this new film"? I bet the ones that are so vocal about tucked, untucked and turtle necks would say yes. That yes, there is a difference.

It's the same suit, through and through. There is no "except" or "plus" this. It isn't this,

or these,

It's the same.

There's no additional pieces, changes in color, add ons, nothing. It's the same costume from the last film. Period.

Despite what others think (screw "catering" to everyone, it's impossible) I'm sure you agree. The question shouldn't be "is Hot Toys going to make this look like TDKR suit" but rather, is Hot Toys going to improve upon the DX 02 from 2010. Necks and gauntlet gloves be damned.

Forget about the silly necks and tucked vs. ungloved argument. Hot Toys hasn't even taken that into account with their previous figures since they have SCULPTED necks. We'll be lucky if they're even separate pieces, which hopefully they are.

You mention about being satisfied. Well there are some on these message boards that will NEVER be satisfied no matter how good the outcome is. THAT annoys me. So, like others I think we should be allowed to question, mock and argue against such ridiculousness. Is it wrong? Probably. But when I see that stuff I can't shrug it off. It's insane to me.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Difabio.

Honestly, just as long as the figure represents the character in a good way, without too many wonky issues I'll be fine.

Honestly, I'm more worried about QC problems than if the gloves are tucked in. (even though they should be, because it's a new suit.)

 

[batfan08]

I'm a liar, what can I say? Well, I made a suggestion, that being said, if they don't do it, I'm not going to throw a ____fit. The fact is that these are minor issues, nonissues actually. It's just something that I thought might be a nice addition is all. I also don't appreciate being called a hypocrite and petty, Vodoun. I think that says something about your character when you call out someone who, for all you knew, couldn't defend himself.

 

[batfan08]

Actually, I'm not a liar. I said another teaser; I never said it had to be for this. That new Captain America looks kind of cool.