1/6 Hot Toys MMS699 & MMS700 ROTJ Darth Vader

[Wor-Gar]

Did anyone ever post the list of differences between ESB and ROTJ Vader? I know there's not too many things, mostly chest box and mask differences.

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

Maybe everyone who isn’t satisfied with the design of this figure,complain about it loudly at Hot Toys on Facebook . Maybe you can persuade them to make it accurate ,improve it and to everybodies liking.just a thought…

 

[Wor-Gar]

OK, so a cursory review between HT ESB and HT proto ROTJ shows me that they did make the correct changes to the chest boxes between the two -- which is great!

I really have forgotten all the small mask tweaks between the two, but for the most part Vader's helmet didn't change too much between ESB and ROTJ (not like it did between ANH and ESB).

 

[matrix69]

Here's a nice comparison from Gino's replica helmets.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Cool, thanks. So wider helmet with larger eyes is what stands out for me.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Here's a nice comparison from Gino's replica helmets.

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ANH still king.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I also believe the rougher, dirtier ANH "mad dog" Vader is the better Vader -- the merciless warrior/dark knight.

 

[Gipetto0812]

OK, so a cursory review between HT ESB and HT proto ROTJ shows me that they did make the correct changes to the chest boxes between the two -- which is great!

I really have forgotten all the small mask tweaks between the two, but for the most part Vader's helmet didn't change too much between ESB and ROTJ (not like it did between ANH and ESB).

Not the biggest difference if even true, but ppl on the RPF say that the belt on ROTJ is thinner (like Sideshow’s figure) than the ESB belt. Even if that’s true, I think the belt HT has been using visually looks better than the thinner Sideshow one.

 

[shadow_wolf]

Here's a nice comparison from Gino's replica helmets.

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Ty Matrix69, ANH ver always has the best look for me.

 

[Nyhargo Dirge]

ANH Vader was less refined looking. He had more of a “field Vader” vibe. I think the widow’s peak helm makes a big difference

 

[jkno]

ANH Vader remains the most iconic. Rough, brutal, merciless and ready to fight anyone, friend or foe just to reach his goal. The other Vaders are more elaborated and even if his character evolves in the other two movies, in my books ANH is king

 

[D'oh!]

For me, the Jedi Vader helmet looks too slick and plastic-ky. I also prefer the cloak over the shoulder pads. But that didn't stop me from ordering the Kenobi Vader -- which I prefer over this one.

 

[Grenas]

I prefer the finish on the ESB/ROTJ helmets, they're more shiny as opposed to the almost matte look of the ANH helmet. Vader in general got a huge upgrade in ESB. Better suit, better voice.

 

[ZE_501]

ESB has Vader in Bond Villain style. Smooth and murderous with a dry wit. Ultimately it's the Vader I prefer. I'd place ANH second.

While I'm one of the few who thought Vader's rampage in RO was overdone, even unnecessary -- I did appreciate the way he was portrayed in that film. Dark and threatening but also a smooth villain not above cracking a pun when he Force choked someone. It also felt like a nice, understated fusion of the OT character and PT Anakin with the bacta tank and castle, etc.

 

[MyenShi]

ESB has Vader in Bond Villain style. Smooth and murderous with a dry wit. Ultimately it's the Vader I prefer. I'd place ANH second.

While I'm one of the few who thought Vader's rampage in RO was overdone, even unnecessary -- I did appreciate the way he was portrayed in that film. Dark and threatening but also a smooth villain not above cracking a pun when he Force choked someone. It also felt like a nice, understated fusion of the OT character and PT Anakin with the bacta tank and castle, etc.

He’s a boss level henchman in ANH. Doesn’t mean he was unimportant but he plays second to both Tarkin the character and Cushing the actor as a villain.

ESB actually gave him the depth, motivation, purpose, and pathos that turned him into a fully fledged character.

 

[Dave_W]

ANH - Bodyguard.
ESB - Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet
ROTJ - Dead beat dad who has to be mean to his son because his boss says so. Ends up having to kill his boss then dies.

 

[Johnny Utah]

ANH Vader and ESB Vader are night and day performance wise.

While I agree Empire was another level of depth to the character, I feel Jedi solidified him, from the Endor chat with Luke to the final confrontation.

 

[ZE_501]

ANH Vader and ESB Vader are night and day performance wise.

While I agree Empire was another level of depth to the character, I feel Jedi solidified him, from the Endor chat with Luke to the final confrontation.

10-year old me thought ROTJ was awesome. While it's an integral part of the OT and retains legendary status, it really doesn't hold up for me as an adult relative to the other films. But that's not an uncommon sentiment and to be expected. ESB has the most depth but without ANH, no ESB. As far as the OT is concerned, you take the good with the bad. This is true for all Star Wars media, of course -- but the contrasts seem to grow more pronounced over the years.

Now, years after the glut of nostalgia and content triggered by HT getting the license and the advent of Disney Star Wars ... most of this property is more of a ... feeling or an idea, like most old memories.

Idly posting on this forum is the most time I give it and while that's often significant when I have down time (I don't restart work for a couple weeks yet), this stuff really isn't a part of my daily life anymore. Were it not for these streaming shows -- the good and the bad -- I wouldn't even have much to smack talk or praise online.

 

[Nine Inch Nails]

Maybe everyone who isn’t satisfied with the design of this figure,complain about it loudly at Hot Toys on Facebook . Maybe you can persuade them to make it accurate ,improve it and to everybodies liking.just a thought…

I dont think this will work unfortunately. Hot toys is only catering to those who are 2 years into the hobby. I brought up inaccuracies and people were all “wuh?”

I think we are stuck with empire 3.0.

 

[rayeknor]

Being a stickler for details is both a blessing and a curse. It is the main reason why I've moved on to statues. But in that field the main issue is usually less then stellar Chinese factory paintjobs ruining incredibly well done sculpts. Just charge us 5-10 dollar more and get the factory workers some decent chairs, desks, ventilator masks and normal work hours, geez