1/6 Hot Toys Rogue One: JYN ERSO

[Wor-Gar]

UN troops basically. Blue helmets of our reality. Just not that useless I guess

Who? What? Never heard of them. Look 'em up. Seem confusing -- soldiers with guns for peace. I don't get any 'religious' aspect to UN troops -- are they not suppose to marry and dedicate themselves fully to studying a religion?

Your answer is a fail.

 

[Travis Baumann]

I'm truly still at a loss for what the Jedi were supposed to be. Policemen? Arbitrators? Medicine men? What in real life is anything like a Jedi?

Besides that, if you go with the premise, then why don't they know things? Why can't they at least sense the Force, good or bad? Every problem that they find themselves in, from the gas room at the beginning of TPM to the secret baby Amidala is carrying seems to go right over the Jedi heads. If they're not really "in tune" with the Force and they can be gunned down -- all of them -- then what the hell was there purpose?

What good are they?

Yeah, one Sith can "cloud the future" to the point where an entire council and hundreds (if not he thousands alluded to by Kenobi in ANH) could not figure out what was going on at any point and they time and again were moronic, they were directly responsible via manipulation for putting the galaxy in the state it was in as well as the eventual rise and victory of the Emperor.

The only thing interesting about all that rubbish is that Anakin actually did bring "balance to the force" by turning on them and assisting in evening out the numbers.. by the end you have him and Sidious left on one side and Kenobi and Yoda on the other so balanced (not counting Clone Wars/Rebels stuff with Maul/Evil Sisters/ Ahsoka, etc.)

 

[Sithblade]

It's all Jett's fault.

Zett's fault[emoji6] c'mon Hot Toys make Zett Jukassa

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[davejames]

ROTJ benefits from the first two excellent films before it with everyone's favorite characters returning for what really is just "Star Wars Greatest Hits" revisited.

ROTJ is probably as poorly made as the PT films... but it has characters that everyone loves, its shorter, and its a conclusion. Being the finale gives it some slack, just as ROTS gets a lot of slack for being the one PT story that everyone actually wanted to see.

I'd put ROTJ and ROTS on the same level... but ROTJ has a lot more characters that I care about. So it gets a leg up.

Yeah that's what makes a huge difference for me. Even if they may not be as complex as they were before, it's still freakin Han, Luke and Leia who I actually like and still care about as characters. And of course you still have the iconic Vader as a villain and the memorable as hell Emperor in there as well which doesn't hurt.

And personally I find something like the skiff battle more thrilling and fun to watch (especially once Luke starts going nuts with the lightsaber) than all those more "epic" action sequences in ROTS put together.

 

[davejames]

Another ass shot that didn't make the final cut:

Hey we did still get one glorious ass shot, when she puts the data disk in her back pocket.

Might even be one of my favorite shots in the movie in fact.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Hey we did still get one glorious ass shot, when she puts the data disk in her back pocket.

Might even be one of my favorite shots in the movie in fact.

I want to start a website called "The Glorious Ass"...

 

[Khev]

Hey we did still get one glorious ass shot, when she puts the data disk in her back pocket.

Might even be one of my favorite shots in the movie in fact.

Dude that moment was one of the highlights of the saga. Thank God for 7 story IMAX screens.

 

[TonTon]

How many stories was her ass? 4-5?

 

[lordregnis]

How about that part when Finn just happens to crash land on the exact same planet as our other lead character, or when they need a way to get off the planet and the millennium falcon just happens to be sitting there, or when they get out of orbit and 2 minutes later, han and chewie just happen to be in the exact same area in space to find a ship they had supposedly been searching for for decades... Oh wait that was sw7 again.

 

[TonTon]

Right, nobody was talking about that movie except you. Do you know how conversations work?

 

[Khev]

How many stories was her ass? 4-5?

Give or take.

How about that part when Finn just happens to crash land on the exact same planet as our other lead character, or when they need a way to get off the planet and the millennium falcon just happens to be sitting there, or when they get out of orbit and 2 minutes later, han and chewie just happen to be in the exact same area in space to find a ship they had supposedly been searching for for decades... Oh wait that was sw7 again.

I'll take crazy coincidences over midichlorians, Jar Jar, little orphan Ani, boring senate meetings, terrible dialogue, completely unconvincing "romances," Jedi that are total losers, cartoony backgrounds, fart jokes, etc., etc.

 

[TonTon]

ANH is non-stop coincidence and plot holes too if you really want to look at it from that type of angle.

 

[Username]

It's all Jett's fault.

That's not Jett.

Right, nobody was talking about that movie except you. Do you know how conversations work?

Lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

That's not Jett.

I never said it was. I used that as an example of what must be done to him since he was Lucas's beta-tester on TPM.

Thank you, Mr. Literal.

Sithblade didn't get it either.

 

[TaliBane]

ANH is non-stop coincidence and plot holes too if you really want to look at it from that type of angle.

A few less coincidences since the RO retcons though.

And the TFA coincidences/holes are a bit more obvious than the ANH ones ever were.

That's not Jett.

It makes me sad that you know this.

 

[WesMordine]

I'm late to the party, but I must share in the sadness of her lovely backside being mostly cut.

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[TaliBane]

Yeah like RotJ...it's a pretty bad movie, but it gets a pass since it's from some people's childhood...interesting that the PT doesn't get the same slack cut for it.

ROTJ benefits from the first two excellent films before it with everyone's favorite characters returning for what really is just "Star Wars Greatest Hits" revisited.

ROTJ is probably as poorly made as the PT films... but it has characters that everyone loves, its shorter, and its a conclusion. Being the finale gives it some slack, just as ROTS gets a lot of slack for being the one PT story that everyone actually wanted to see.

I'd put ROTJ and ROTS on the same level... but ROTJ has a lot more characters that I care about. So it gets a leg up.

ROTJ has classic sequences like Jabba's Palace, the Sarlacc and Speeder Bike chase. While ROTJ is pretty anemic in the drama department, and has a decent stash of unintentionally funny or eye-roller moments, there is NO WAY it is on the levels of the PT, which are a muddle of dated CGI, dense/near-nonsensical plotlines and some of the worst acting seen from any of the involved actors. In terms of drama/story, it alternates between boring/confusing and unintentionally funny.

How it is the likes of Liam, Ewan and Natalie are made to look so stupefyingly bad is actually a major achievement in and of itself. De Niro could elevate a highschooler-written play, but those actors just came up with nothing in the face of the PT.

Ewan's video reaction to being told the title "Attack of the Clones" pretty much sums up what he thought of the whole PT experience. His agent is working 24/7 to get a stand-alone Ben movie up so he can finally actually play Kenobi.

 

[TonTon]

A few less coincidences since the RO retcons though.

True, though prior to that the reveal of Vader being the father of first Luke and then Leia really made things worse in the ANH coincidence department. Writing in that Leia was already going to find Kenobi makes more sense. That aside RO also muddied a bit of the ANH opening for my liking, makes the Vader/Leia verbal sparring a bit less interesting when he just watched the Tantive flee a giant space battle.

 

[TaliBane]

Yeah like RotJ...it's a pretty bad movie, but it gets a pass since it's from some people's childhood...interesting that the PT doesn't get the same slack cut for it.

True, though prior to that the reveal of Vader being the father of first Luke and then Leia really made things worse in the ANH coincidence department. Writing in that Leia was already going to find Kenobi makes more sense. That aside RO also muddied a bit of the ANH opening for my liking, makes the Vader/Leia verbal sparring a bit less interesting when he just watched the Tantive flee a giant space battle.

And Captain Antilles comes across as complete moron now.

"We JUST made a run from you, and you saw the little floppy disc get passed through the door yourself, and we all saw you massacring part of my very same group of troopers, but................. this is a consular ship, on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan!"


It's funny to see how everyone's like "it so perfectly meshes with the ANH opening!" and I'm like "I smell some retconned dialog in the opening of ANH in the near future."

 

[FlyAndFight]

Interviews at the time said he was using his 8 year old son as his primary sounding board for PTM... not joking.

At 8 years old though, I still would have told him that the 2 headed announcer was rubbish, the star shaped racer was idiotic, poop jokes are worthless, undoing all of ESB's force mysticism with retarded pseudo science was fundamentally wrong, and that making characters with voices more cartoonish than Goofy from Disney was a mistake.