Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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I just watched the clip!

Zod falls from two lengths of himself. He's under 6ft, so that's about 10. That's nothing, especially when you're sliding down a slanted edge instead of straight down. You're right about Ursa though, she may very well have died! Zod and Non though? They fell into the shallow ends.
 
Shieeet, this is nothing.


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This water slide is way worse.



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Yeah, but you don't know how deep it is after the smoke. Because he didn't just stopped there, he kept going. The only way to truly know the distance is to find out the dimensions of the fortress of solitude.
 
Trying to remember if I had a problem with him killing Zod when I first saw MOS. I don't think I did. I certainly had issues with the film but I don't think that was one.

I think my main issue was I thought it was far too big and cataclysmic a start to Superman's career, I felt it should have been a lower-key threat and the human race should have had time to be amazed by Superman and to love him. I also really missed the Williams score. Having said that BvS, if it's good, might vindicate the change of approach in a way that I don't think MOS did on its own.

So I only just watched Man Of Steel on Netflix, thanks to the Batman Vs. Superman trailer. I can give the film a lot of passes since it's based on comics, but the one thing that makes no sense at all is the thing with his dad and the tornado. I just don't see it and there's very little gravity to it after the fact.
 
So I only just watched Man Of Steel on Netflix, thanks to the Batman Vs. Superman trailer. I can give the film a lot of passes since it's based on comics, but the one thing that makes no sense at all is the thing with his dad and the tornado. I just don't see it and there's very little gravity to it after the fact.

The point was to not expose his powers until the time was right, if at all. I don't agree with the script.
 
The point was to not expose his powers until the time was right, if at all. I don't agree with the script.

I get the point, but like you the writing makes no sense. Clark would have exposed himself to save someone, particularly someone he loved. His dad acting suicidal is also a little tough to swallow, but not so much as Clark's behaviour.
 
I think opposite should have happened. Clark should have saved his father and some others caught in the tornado. But in such a way that he is never identified. Then his father has a change of heart and tells him that he should go out and help others. The world needs him.
 
I have no problem with his dad sacrificing himself, its in sync with the take on Supes.
But his leg stuck because he was saving the freaking dog????
I love dogs as much as the next guy but come on... find something else!
Also we dont know what supes was able to do at that time, he does have super force, but not yet flying maybe no superspeed too.
So who knows if he could have REALLY done it and done it incognito.
 
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The stupidity of him going back to save the dog, for me, is that they left the dog in the car in the first place. I would never forget that I had my dog with me. That to me is the bizarre thing.

If you care enough to risk your life to go back and save it, how do you not care enough to remember that you had it with you in the first place? There's a contradiction there.
 
I think that whole scene is indicative of a far larger problem, it's not very interesting to watch Superman struggle with the idea of should or shouldn't he "be Superman". That as a plot point is carrying over to BvS now as well and it's just not interesting. It's boring, it's not fitting to the reason people love the character, it leads to a lot of boring and nonsensical scenes like the tornado. But transposed with him using his power to f with people anyway, it's made even worse. "Dad said I shouldn't help anyone, but I'm totally going to put this guy's big rig up on that pole." It's too much of a Spiderman or Batman plot point we've all already seen played out to death. It was the entire point of Nolan's Batman and Raimi's Spiderman. The "I don't actually want to be a superhero" attitude is why they are losing the big paydays to Marvel. It's all part of DC's fear of embracing who and what they're characters are. I think Suicide Squad will be far superior to BvS because at least the villains should embrace what they do.
 
You mention "larger problem", while I agree reboots and origin stories are played out, maybe the direction MoS is going to lead to how he becomes a member or leader for that matter, of the JL, idk? I think all superheros have been around long enough to skip the origins, if you wanna see a superhero flick its because your at least somewhat familiar with the character, if you need to know more read a comic or wiki.
 
The movie was no flop so i dont see how the big payday are evading DC, DK trilogy was a success, MOS made a lot of money too so i dont see how they are "losing" anything.
Also i find the DC vs Marvel thing so childish.
As always its "superman is like this and not like that" some should just accept that its not the superman they want or think they know from the comics, nor the definitive version of the character.
All my non comic book friends wanted to see the movie when the trailer was released, some liked other didnt but they all agreed that it was quite a change from the boring character they remembered from previous movies or tv shows.
Its them that Warner and co are aiming at, and they got them.
Comic book fanboys dont make or break movies.
Only in their minds they think that geek is chic and rules Hollywood decisions.
 
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