Cannabis Poll

[Frank Jaeger]

Prohibition romanticizes everything it touches. If you want kids to lose interest, eliminating the rebellious appeal would be the first place I'd go. Although, I'm sure someone has plenty of well reasoned and logical horsefeathers at the ready, with which to completely evade that.

Exactly, just because it's illegal there will be a majority of children who won't try it due to the fact it's illegal, but you'll get i would guess the same amount of children smoking pot because it's illegal. It's swing and roundabouts on that argument.

Only difference is the people that choose not to are sort of basing there decisions for smoking pot on lies - which get set in stone as they mature into adulthood.

I don't think children should be able to do anything until they have an able mind and can make informed decisions for themselves. However i also don't think they should be force fed bull***** either. They should be given the truth so they can make their own decisions when they are old enough to do so

 

[Blackthornone]

But that's what i mean by using your common sense. You should know that drinking twice a week isn't alot and isn't bad for you.

If you took a person who drank every day and somebody who never drank, gave them both the same amount for 2 days out of the week. They would both be drinking very little alcohol and it wouldn't effect health in the slightest.

It might be more than one usually drinks and less for the other but it doesn't change the fact that it's still not alot

Any amount of alcohol ingested destroys cells, especially the brain, heart, liver, and kidney. There is no completely safe amount of alcohol. Every amount does some damage. The thing that determines whether you think the drinking of alcohol does no significant damage depends upon how much you think your life is worth.

The idea that alcohol consumed "in moderation" is completely safe is a complete myth, perpetuated by alcohol producers and those who try to rationalize their habits to reduce social stigma, to make it easier for them to continue their habits.

THAT is the truth about the notion of drinking alcohol in moderation.

 

[Blackthornone]

Prohibition romanticizes everything it touches. If you want kids to lose interest, eliminating the rebellious appeal would be the first place I'd go. Although, I'm sure someone has plenty of well reasoned and logical horsefeathers at the ready, with which to completely evade that.

Prohibition only romanticizes everything for certain types of people.

Not everyone is turned on by things being more illicit.

 

[WurstCollector]

I am a consumer, and avid user (more so on the weekends) and I find the whole consumption and legalization debates to be quite entertaining. Especially when those on the opposite spectrum become so critical of users; I for one can't stand the ignorant individuals who have been brainwashed as well. Maybe its because I for one feel that alcohol and the abuse of prescription drugs is far more of an issue. That legislation on cannabis in Canada (besides the province of Ontario) is hanging by the proverbial thread because of the conservative party's Safe Street's Communities Act. It's evident I feel strongly about the legalization, but by no means do I feel it should be abused either. Designated licensed areas/home use is the only exception, similar to that of alcohol. The ignorance of some doesn't come to a surprise, especially when I have been told by a police officer "Smoking a joint is like consuming a 12 -pack of beer." It simply proves to me certain individuals are so ill-informed on the matter that they make themselves sound ridiculous. I just feel individuals should be more inclined to do some research before pointing the finger. But I do respect my fellow citizen, so I do not smoke in public, nor do I operate my car while "impaired". As I had mentioned earlier I find the abuse of prescription drugs and alcohol for more of an issue because of the statistics that follow. Also, I think because it hits close to home, where I have suffered the loss of three people in my life due to those issues. I think it will take time, but will eventually be legal in the province of Ontario under high scrutiny of those still against it. Having said all that I have yet to find one incident where someone has overdosed on marijuana consumption, or has been charged with domestic abuse under the influence of cannabis.

 

[fosing]

Any amount of alcohol ingested destroys cells, especially the brain, heart, liver, and kidney. There is no completely safe amount of alcohol. Every amount does some damage. The thing that determines whether you think the drinking of alcohol does no significant damage depends upon how much you think your life is worth.

The idea that alcohol consumed "in moderation" is completely safe is a complete myth, perpetuated by alcohol producers and those who try to rationalize their habits to reduce social stigma, to make it easier for them to continue their habits.

THAT is the truth about the notion of drinking alcohol in moderation.

yep, i'll drink to that.

 

[devilof76]

Make it a double.

Prohibition only romanticizes everything for certain types of people.

Not everyone is turned on by things being more illicit.

Nope. Just the ones who recognize ascetic, authoritarian bull**** when they see it and will do anything within their power to oppose and/or get out from under its boot. Since there is very little they can do to escape the moralizing condescension of those who are obedient to the institutions that control their lives, blind rebellion is frequently the most attractive option.

And it's a crime that they turn to substance abuse when they are more often than not the most talented and most independently minded. It's a perfect way to destroy those who represent the greatest threat to those who wish to have their society cast in a single mold, with no threat to their delusional castles in the sky.

 

[Deadly Dagger]

I am a consumer, and avid user (more so on the weekends) and I find the whole consumption and legalization debates to be quite entertaining. Especially when those on the opposite spectrum become so critical of users; I for one can't stand the ignorant individuals who have been brainwashed as well. Maybe its because I for one feel that alcohol and the abuse of prescription drugs is far more of an issue. That legislation on cannabis in Canada (besides the province of Ontario) is hanging by the proverbial thread because of the conservative party's Safe Street's Communities Act. It's evident I feel strongly about the legalization, but by no means do I feel it should be abused either. Designated licensed areas/home use is the only exception, similar to that of alcohol. The ignorance of some doesn't come to a surprise, especially when I have been told by a police officer "Smoking a joint is like consuming a 12 -pack of beer." It simply proves to me certain individuals are so ill-informed on the matter that they make themselves sound ridiculous. I just feel individuals should be more inclined to do some research before pointing the finger. But I do respect my fellow citizen, so I do not smoke in public, nor do I operate my car while "impaired". As I had mentioned earlier I find the abuse of prescription drugs and alcohol for more of an issue because of the statistics that follow. Also, I think because it hits close to home, where I have suffered the loss of three people in my life due to those issues. I think it will take time, but will eventually be legal in the province of Ontario under high scrutiny of those still against it. Having said all that I have yet to find one incident where someone has overdosed on marijuana consumption, or has been charged with domestic abuse under the influence of cannabis.

amen...and well said.

 

[WurstCollector]

amen...and well said.

Thank you kind sir . . .

 

[Frank Jaeger]

Any amount of alcohol ingested destroys cells, especially the brain, heart, liver, and kidney. There is no completely safe amount of alcohol. Every amount does some damage. The thing that determines whether you think the drinking of alcohol does no significant damage depends upon how much you think your life is worth.

The idea that alcohol consumed "in moderation" is completely safe is a complete myth, perpetuated by alcohol producers and those who try to rationalize their habits to reduce social stigma, to make it easier for them to continue their habits.

THAT is the truth about the notion of drinking alcohol in moderation.

I'm pretty sure they have scientific studies that highlights the fact that a small amount of alcohol is good for you

 

[devilof76]

People who don't enjoy inebriation will always revert to a materialist argument, as if preserving their bodies for eternity is somehow a value in and of itself.

Ironically, they're usually the same ones who'll damn the body as imperfect and secondary to some kind of disembodied state of pure consciousness as the ultimate state of being.

 

[Doctor Who]

Any amount of alcohol ingested destroys cells, especially the brain, heart, liver, and kidney. There is no completely safe amount of alcohol. Every amount does some damage. The thing that determines whether you think the drinking of alcohol does no significant damage depends upon how much you think your life is worth.

The idea that alcohol consumed "in moderation" is completely safe is a complete myth, perpetuated by alcohol producers and those who try to rationalize their habits to reduce social stigma, to make it easier for them to continue their habits.

THAT is the truth about the notion of drinking alcohol in moderation.

It is indeed untrue that it destroys cells. It does, however, cause Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome.

 

[Blackthornone]

I'm pretty sure they have scientific studies that highlights the fact that a small amount of alcohol is good for you

There are studies that prove that red wine is beneficial for you because of the natural red pigment in them which has protective effects on the heart, but more benefit can be had from drinking red grape juice. The substance is called resveratrol and can be taken in capsule form.
The alcohol itself provides no real benefit.

 

[Blackthornone]

yep, i'll drink to that.

Anything that impairs judgment or mental functioning as much as pot over alcohol the short term must cause long term damage. There is no reason to believe it can't, other than denial.
It makes absolutely no sense that it wouldn't cause long term damage, just like repeated head injuries causes brain damage.

 

[Deadly Dagger]

Anything that impairs judgment or mental functioning as much as pot over alcohol the short term must cause long term damage. There is no reason to believe it can't, other than denial.
It makes absolutely no sense that it wouldn't cause long term damage, just like repeated head injuries causes brain damage.

love can impair judgment..and be damaging mentally.

love must be stopped!

 

[Blackthornone]

love can impair judgment..and be damaging mentally.

love must be stopped!

I should have said anything ingested.
Also, there is a difference between real love and infatuation or obsession, ect. You are speaking of a phenomenon that is of mental origin, causing another phenomenon of mental origin. Love is not determined by what you ingest.

 

[hoodonit00]

I should have said anything ingested.
Also, there is a difference between real love and infatuation or obsession, ect. You are speaking of a phenomenon that is of mental origin, causing another phenomenon of mental origin. Love is not determined by what you ingest.

Your name wouldn't happen to be Sheldon would it?

 

[The Ween]

Any amount of alcohol ingested destroys cells, especially the brain, heart, liver, and kidney. There is no completely safe amount of alcohol. Every amount does some damage. The thing that determines whether you think the drinking of alcohol does no significant damage depends upon how much you think your life is worth.

The idea that alcohol consumed "in moderation" is completely safe is a complete myth, perpetuated by alcohol producers and those who try to rationalize their habits to reduce social stigma, to make it easier for them to continue their habits.

THAT is the truth about the notion of drinking alcohol in moderation.

Sorry, one drink or glass of wine a day is good for you. It doesn't eat your brain or make your liver stop working.

 

[pixletwin]

A lot of defensive addicts and hippies in here.

 

[The Ween]

A lot of defensive addicts and hippies in here.

I know.....I'm a once a month addict.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

I should have said anything ingested.
Also, there is a difference between real love and infatuation or obsession, ect. You are speaking of a phenomenon that is of mental origin, causing another phenomenon of mental origin. Love is not determined by what you ingest.

I love burritos and I ingest those......

Your name wouldn't happen to be Sheldon would it?

A lot of defensive addicts and hippies in here.