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Are you a consumer

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 20.1%
  • No

    Votes: 94 67.6%
  • Sometimes

    Votes: 17 12.2%

  • Total voters
    139
I think that not doing drugs or alcohol makes one normal, not "a higher force".

What is the definition of normal? And what criteria are u using as a basis. Normal to who? Normal is not arbitrarily set by a single individual, its supposed to represent an average. What you may consider normal may be perceived as abnormal to another
 
What is the definition of normal? And what criteria are u using as a basis. Normal to who? Normal is not arbitrarily set by a single individual, its supposed to represent an average. What you may consider normal may be perceived as abnormal to another

I define normal as optimally healthy function, as in functioning normally, as opposed to exhibiting some sort of problem, regardless of how common that problem might be. I do not define normal as the psychopathology of the average.
 
I'm straight edge as all hell, I used to think like you, and I've noticed it's BS. The stuff you think about it, makes it seem like you're in some kind of cult or something. If you think people who don't do drugs and alcohol are normal, why not help others be "normal" too?

Hell, everyone is "normal". Some have a problem, others don't. (Not talking about people who drink a beer every now and then, I'm talking addicts) No need to judge people as abnormal.

I feel bad for being straight edge cause of people like you.
I was judging certain behavior as abnormal. I did not mean to imply that the people were abnormal, however, people could put their bodies into an abnormal state by virtue of substance abuse.
I apologize for implying that people were abnormal.
People who drink or do drugs could also be considered part of a cult. Any group of people who holds a common belief system could be considered a cult, whether it be baseball fans or drinkers or Star Wars fans.
As far as helping others be normal in the capacity you suggest, I have no patience for it. I'm not a one on one therapist kind of person. I'm not cut out for it. I'm more of an introverted artist type.
 
No. Drinking is perfectly normal. Thinking you're better because you don't is abnormal, and douchey.

Anything that causes your body to function less well than if you didn't do it isn't normal, no matter how small a loss of function it is. It isn't logical to think it is, unless you think that a poorly functioning or a diseased body is normal.
 
Good to know instead of actually helping people you rather sit and watch. If it's such a big problem to you like it is to me, you'd be doing something about it.
 
Anything that causes your body to function less well than if you didn't do it isn't normal, no matter how small a loss of function it is. It isn't logical to think it is, unless you think that a poorly functioning or a diseased body is normal.

That's like saying I'm abnormal cos I have rheumatism. :lol I consider myself normal. A diseased body is infact normal. A body that has a disease from outside elements, that's abnormal. Be it from chemicals or an accident.
 
Good to know instead of actually helping people you rather sit and watch. If it's such a big problem to you like it is to me, you'd be doing something about it.

I try not to watch, actually. It is very nice that you are someone who wants to help addicts, but I am not one of those people. I try not to get directly involved. Commendations to you for doing it though.
 
That's like saying I'm abnormal cos I have rheumatism. :lol I consider myself normal. A diseased body is infact normal. A body that has a disease from outside elements, that's abnormal. Be it from chemicals or an accident.

Actually it would be saying that your body is abnormal because you have
rheumatism. I don't see any way around that. However, it doesn't make you any less of a great individual. A diseased body is somewhat typical, but I do not equate typical with normal. My body isn't perfect.
 
Anything that causes your body to function less well than if you didn't do it isn't normal, no matter how small a loss of function it is. It isn't logical to think it is, unless you think that a poorly functioning or a diseased body is normal.

Isn't the whole point of being "normal" or by your definition healthy and free of foreign chemicals in the body to live longer. I guess my question is how much life expectancy is there to gain by doing so? Do u really want to live until 102? As long as u don't abuse these foreign substances/chemicals it shouldnt have a significant effect on how long u live. There are too many factors involved such as race, sex, geography, environmental factors that are out of our control. Its impossible to be chemical fee you breath the **** everyday, unless u live in the north pole or a bubble.
 
Isn't the whole point of being "normal" or by your definition healthy and free of foreign chemicals in the body to live longer.

That would also mean no food at all. It's impossible to not have foreign chemicals in your body, you need them to survive. Your body doesn't make the chemical gas called oxygen so you breath it in.

The difference between foreign chemicals and drugs/alcohol is.. drugs and alcohol can affect people around you and that's where the problem is. I don't want to go to a place where you have drunk uncle Jack stripping on the table and trying to kiss your girlfriend. Let people do what people want, but as soon as they start to mess **** up for others, it's time to act.
 
That would also mean no food at all. It's impossible to not have foreign chemicals in your body, you need them to survive. Your body doesn't make the chemical gas called oxygen so you breath it in.

The difference between foreign chemicals and drugs/alcohol is.. drugs and alcohol can affect people around you and that's where the problem is. I don't want to go to a place where you have drunk uncle Jack stripping on the table and trying to kiss your girlfriend. Let people do what people want, but as soon as they start to mess **** up for others, it's time to act.

Would u object to my hot cousin kim k. drunk and stripping at the table. I wouldn't if Kim k. was your cousin shaking her drunk booty on the table
 
Isn't the whole point of being "normal" or by your definition healthy and free of foreign chemicals in the body to live longer. I guess my question is how much life expectancy is there to gain by doing so? Do u really want to live until 102? As long as u don't abuse these foreign substances/chemicals it shouldnt have a significant effect on how long u live. There are too many factors involved such as race, sex, geography, environmental factors that are out of our control. Its impossible to be chemical fee you breath the **** everyday, unless u live in the north pole or a bubble.

As far as how much life expectancy, that is a very good question.
Why not try to live at least 152?
Even with all of the pollutants you can't control, extend the logic. More pollutants are more pollutants.
It is one thing to be poisoned by things you can't control. It is quite another to deliberately do it to yourself.

Deliberately doing it to yourself adds the extra aspect of your thoughts
and mind going against yourself. You can use the power of your will to keep yourself healthy in spite of what goes on around you, but you cannot protect yourself from things you do to yourself. That is a battle no one can ever win.

The attitude is very important in health, and you can't have a good attitude if you are busy deliberately poisoning yourself when you could be making healthy choices.

In one hand you have smoke and in the other, fresh air. In one hand you have fresh grape juice, and in the other, rotten grape juice turned to alcohol. If you pick one over the other, you are making an affirmation with your mind as to what outcome you want.

To deliberately pick an unhealthy thing to put into yourself or your body is a negative, unhealthy thought that can affect your health negatively all by itself.

To make the decision to put an unhealthy substance in your mouth is an expression of self destruction, because the effects of that substance are what they are, and so the quality of the thoughts to put that substance in your body must logically be a direct reflection of that.

Whether you consciously intend to destroy yourself or not does not change the logic that subconsciously you seek to destroy yourself by putting that unhealthy thing into yourself, unnecessarily and deliberately.
 
As far as how much life expectancy, that is a very good question.
Why not try to live at least 152?
Even with all of the pollutants you can't control, extend the logic. More pollutants are more pollutants.
It is one thing to be poisoned by things you can't control. It is quite another to deliberately do it to yourself.

Deliberately doing it to yourself adds the extra aspect of your thoughts
and mind going against yourself. You can use the power of your will to keep yourself healthy in spite of what goes on around you, but you cannot protect yourself from things you do to yourself. That is a battle no one can ever win.

The attitude is very important in health, and you can't have a good attitude if you are busy deliberately poisoning yourself when you could be making healthy choices.

In one hand you have smoke and in the other, fresh air. In one hand you have fresh grape juice, and in the other, rotten grape juice turned to alcohol. If you pick one over the other, you are making an affirmation with your mind as to what outcome you want.

To deliberately pick an unhealthy thing to put into yourself or your body is a negative, unhealthy thought that can affect your health negatively all by itself.

To make the decision to put an unhealthy substance in your mouth is an expression of self destruction, because the effects of that substance are what they are, and so the quality of the thoughts to put that substance in your body must logically be a direct reflection of that.

Whether you consciously intend to destroy yourself or not does not change the logic that subconsciously you seek to destroy yourself by putting that unhealthy thing into yourself, unnecessarily and deliberately.

That's some really deep insight there. Are you a member of the dalai Lama by chance. Your reasoning is very similar in principle to their beliefs. Almost sounds as if its straight from their scriptures.
 
Would u object to my hot cousin kim k. drunk and stripping at the table. I wouldn't if Kim k. was your cousin shaking her drunk booty on the table

The smell of alcohol would make me look away without looking at her. :dunno

The fact you think you have a hot cousin.. A family member can be good looking sure, but call them hot? :lol
 
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I was judging certain behavior as abnormal. I did not mean to imply that the people were abnormal, however, people could put their bodies into an abnormal state by virtue of substance abuse.
I apologize for implying that people were abnormal.
People who drink or do drugs could also be considered part of a cult. Any group of people who holds a common belief system could be considered a cult, whether it be baseball fans or drinkers or Star Wars fans.
As far as helping others be normal in the capacity you suggest, I have no patience for it. I'm not a one on one therapist kind of person. I'm not cut out for it. I'm more of an introverted artist type.

so......what bullcrap cult do you belong?
 
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