Christopher Nolan's Interstellar

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[BB&WSF]

The black hole at the top left should be wormhole. Also read that the Cooper Station should be near Gargantua (as Murph is old and about to die) and should not in the same time line.

 

[Sidewinder]

So do we know how much time had passed for Brand from when Cooper went into the black hole? At the end we see her as the same age looking over Edmunds grave with a small colony in the background. Are we to assume Edmunds had already died by the time she arrived, or he was old and he died shortly aftee she arrived?

 

[slipknotpredator]

The black hole at the top left should be wormhole. Also read that the Cooper Station should be near Gargantua (as Murph is old and about to die) and should not in the same time line.

Yes, good point. And shouldn't "Edmunds planet" be a desert like planet?

 

[rushmore223]

The black hole at the top left should be wormhole. Also read that the Cooper Station should be near Gargantua (as Murph is old and about to die) and should not in the same time line.

The timeline is good, except as you said calling the Black hole a wormhole and the space station should be past the "book event". Was there any mention in the movie of when Cooper Station was established? Also, why is Murph's line in the ship with MM? If she was flown in (while in stasis) to spend her last few minutes with her family, where was she before that? Another Station or still on Earth?


Another question I have about the movie, assuming a fair amount of the population has been evacuated to one or more stations for eventual colonization, does this alleviate some of the stress on Earth? Will the Earth eventually be brought back from the brink and capable of sustaining a population? Or will the Cooper Station make future trips back and forth to Earth to pick up more people that were likely left behind?

I know many of those questions are not really answerable from viewing the film, but wondered if maybe the original script might have alluded to these points.

 

[Cocoboloboy]

We were just talking at work about where Murph was arriving to Cooper station from. We couldn't figure it out either.

 

[Irvy]

Gargantua represents the plot holes in this movie.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

F it...I'll wait for Red Box. This sounds too confusing to see in a theater

 

[rushmore223]

It's funny, every time someone rips on the movie and says it has massive plot holes they never seem to mention what they are. BTW, Having a board room next to the launch facility is not a plot hole, just a poor choice made inside the film.

 

[olbertfrog]

Hahaha... Gotta love Nolanites.

In the original script they find a life form on the ice planet, Brand keep one with her, when Coop goes back to an icy devastated earth he release the life form and it seems it can somewhat heal the planet by absorbing stuff. Then he pass out and wake up in cooper station.
So basically human might be able to repopulate earth.


If Edmunds planet supposed to have time passing slower ( old murph says Brand is probably watching her first sunrise as she speaks to coop) Edmund did not die of old age or could he? On the water planet they say that the previous ranger probably arrived minutes ago...
Kinda lost lol
Any smart Nolanites cares to explain?

 

[rushmore223]

Hahaha... Gotta love Nolanites.

In the original script they find a life form on the ice planet, Brand keep one with her, when Coop goes back to an icy devastated earth he release the life form and it seems it can somewhat heal the planet by absorbing stuff. Then he pass out and wake up in cooper station.
So basically human might be able to repopulate earth.


If Edmunds planet supposed to have time passing slower ( old murph says Brand is probably watching her first sunrise as she speaks to coop) Edmund did not die of old age or could he? On the water planet they say that the previous ranger probably arrived minutes ago...
Kinda lost lol
Any smart Nolanites cares to explain?

Don't really consider myself a Nolanite, but... On the first planet, the previous expedition was likely destroyed by the wall of water. The same tidal wall that could have destroyed the second expedition as well. Thought that was pretty clear.

As for Edmunds, we don't know what happened to them, for all we know they could have crashed.


I'm glad they abandoned that Earth Healing life form, now that sounds stupid to me.

 

[olbertfrog]

Don't really consider myself a Nolanite, but... On the first planet, the previous expedition was likely destroyed by the wall of water. The same tidal wall that could have destroyed the second expedition as well. Thought that was pretty clear.

As for Edmunds, we don't know what happened to them, for all we know they could have crashed.

I'm glad they abandoned that Earth Healing life form, now that sounds stupid to me.

Just kidding about Nolanites.

Huh... how pointing the fact that the tidal wave crashed the ship has anything to do with my time related question?
I was saying that when Coop is supposed to meet Brand on Edmunds planet, Murph says that she just arrived.
They say the same thing about the water planet, that the destroyed ranger arrived minutes before they also landed.
So time passes slower on every planets, even slower as you get near gargantua.

So when the tesserract closes Coop has travelled back/forward actually into earth timeline without suffering any of the time dilatation effect (like they encountered when they flew back from the water planet to the endurance and find the guy 23years older) so when he will travel back to Brand, like it happened on the water planet it will only be seconds/minutes/ hours that Brand has landed.

what killed Edmunds is probably not a crash since there is a colony and if I remember correctly Brand flies with only a ranger.
At first I tough I it couldn't be old age since it would mean that Coop could not reunite with Brand, then I realized I forgot about the final sling shot near gargantua that cost them 51 years.

So After leaving old Murphy space station, Coop will not need to do such a manoeuvre (his ship has all the Power it needs to go trough the whormhole and straight to edmunds planet) when he will arrive on edmunds planet it will be just like he did on the water planet (shorter even since time passes even slower on Edmunds planet) it will be only seconds/minutes/hours after Brand.
Well that made more sense

Sorry I modified as I was remembering stuff

 

[Rorywan]

It's funny, every time someone rips on the movie and says it has massive plot holes they never seem to mention what they are. BTW, Having a board room next to the launch facility is not a plot hole, just a poor choice made inside the film.

It is when the boardroom is totally quiet, even though huge machinery is being welded and worked on 100ft away.

 

[olbertfrog]

The door panel is made of a futuristic material that kill all the sounds from the outside called absorbium.

 

[K07]

I think the revised script is overall better. I do prefer the original idea of a probe crashing to the space bookcase gravity trick but that's about the only original plot element I prefer to the revised script. We got more TARS and CASE in the final version. Can you complain about that?

 

[olbertfrog]

My complain level is at 70%

Lets lower it to 60% with a second viewing.

 

[K07]

My complain level is at 70%

Lets lower it to 60% with a second viewing.

Ha! I do want to see it again mostly for those robots, the amazing visual effects, and the blaring audio mix. I have given up on the ending. Bootstrap paradox it is. I wonder if that was intentional in a highly scientific movie to add a deux ex machina into the plot that makes absolutely no logical sense. I'd like to see it again with that understanding and also analyze the themes of love, evil, and selfishness vs selflessness.

 

[slipknotpredator]

 

[Irvy]

The door panel is made of a futuristic material that kill all the sounds from the outside called absorbium.

Wrong

 

[Snadinator]

On the water planet they say that the previous ranger probably arrived minutes ago...

I just understood that as relativity. Minutes on that planet, but not outside the black hole's event horizon. Suppose it landed there 43 minutes ago. That would be roughly 5 years outside the event horizon.


Anyhow I thought the film was fantastic.