Hot Toys Avatar is official (Movie spoilers)

[FlyAndFight]

No problem, my friend. I'm a huge fan of Cameron's work as well. I guess my initial post may have come across as a little dismissive, but that was never my intent.

 

[Maglor]

The problem with that is that its not just some trope of fiction. Its our history. It was once gold, land, etc. You can't trademark reality. Hell, even to this day people in the world are displaced from their lands by mining operations. But aside from that, DWW was about a man who knew the inevitable, and it was reflection on what this country lost on the bullet train that was western expansion. Avatar on the other hand was about a man who took part in a revolution to prevent humanity from doing to another world what it did to itself. Avatar isn't about the inevitable. Its pure science fiction and fantasy, showing how humanities irresponsibility with what it already had, led it to commit the same sins against a world it had no right to and how they were rightfully rejected from that world. Its a pretty clear distinction between Historical fiction and Sci-Fi/Fantasy that I kinda find hard to ignore...

Both are fiction. And the stories are similar.


I'm not disagreeing with your post. I'm just saying that I kinda find it hard to ignore that Avatar follows a similar formula to DWW. Forget all that about history and humanity for a second and just look at Jake's journey next to Costner's journey in DWW. Again: "A military man taught to view natives as savages comes to relate to said "savages", ultimately becoming one of them."

This IS a "trope of fiction". Like it or not.

When you put that together with the white man taking the natives story line (regardless of how reality based it may be) it just feels uncannily familiar.



As a side point, if you want to make an equation to events in modern history, just look to the Middle East and the war for oil.

 

[marker2037]

Both are great movies. I'll take a DWW Costner figure too!

 

[xkage824]

are these not out yet!
no more news!
whats going on Hot Toys!?

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

are these not out yet!
no more news!
whats going on Hot Toys!?

Their waiting on the 10th anniversary of the movie. Haven't ya heard?

 

[robbiethepainter]

Their waiting on the 10th anniversary of the movie. Haven't ya heard?

Hahaha... that's funny.



probably true too.

 

[Johnny Utah]

All this idle speculation and waiting makes the members here tear chunks out of each other. Same in the Indy and Supes threads.

 

[Centurion]

Count me as one of the viewers who also thought of DWW when watching Avatar.
I remember saying it too while watching it for the first time.
The similarities (already mentioned by other members here) were too obvious.

I came across this article which describes exactly what my feelings are towards the plot of the movie:

If the film has a weak point, it’s the lack of originality concerning the main plotline of the film. A man is recruited to fight a native people, he ends up in their camp, becomes one of them, falls in love with a local, and betrays his original allies to preserve his newfound family’s land and culture. It’s a story we’ve seen in Dances with Wolves, The Last Samurai, and hell, even a little bit of Ferngully is thrown in for good measure, so in that aspect Avatar is decidedly not very original.

Taken from: https://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2009/12/21/unreal-movie-review-avatar/.

The movie deserved the awards that it won: Art Direction, Cinematography, and Visual Effects.

These three categories pretty much sums it up.

 

[Fason]

we need figures not old discussions comparing movies! cmon hot toys! this sucks!

 

[78Myers]

Whats bad about it? Is it not good?
I mean great visual masterpiece can trun a movie into masterpiece as well. Cant it?

Um, no.

Avatar revolutionised cinema. Fact!

As evidenced by...

Please elaborate.

 

[78Myers]

we need figures not old discussions comparing movies! cmon hot toys! this sucks!

HT has made it a bad habit to make collectors wait for a few things now...

First the Crapatar...Ooops, I mean Avatar figures. And now, Superman, which was supposed to be 'coming' in the winter.

 

[riky]

we need figures not old discussions comparing movies! cmon hot toys! this sucks!

Agreed!!! and WTF!? still no preview. This thread is makin me cranky.

 

[HottoyzJoker]

HT has made it a bad habit to make collectors wait for a few things now...

First the Avatar...And now, Craperman, which was supposed to be 'coming' in 10 years.

Fixed

 

[Centurion]

Ouch!

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

^ Ha, can't stand Superman after seeing all of those AutobotJon videos..
Everytime I think of him I picture a disgusting, deformed face..

 

[Maglor]

I've officially lost interest int his.


1) DX06 Jack Sparrow deserves my money.

2) Navi in true 1/6 will look retarded on the shelf. Too big.

3) Can only expend so much energy staying excited about upcoming toys, and Superman and Burton's Batman take all I have.

4) Just don't care anymore. They waited too long.

 

[HottoyzJoker]

I've officially lost interest int his.


1) DX06 Jack Sparrow deserves my money.

2) Navi in true 1/6 will look retarded on the shelf. Too big.

3) Can only expend so much energy staying excited about upcoming toys, and Superman and Burton's Batman take all I have.

4) Just don't care anymore. They waited too long.

LOL everyone has been waiting for Superman forever too... Not me though could care less... All Im looking foward to the most are...

89 Batman
Avatar
Metal Gear Solid

Lines that Hot Toys will hopefully show something from soon...

 

[olbertfrog]

"This was live from the sideshow freaks boards. Well you had it coming Hot toys! Now the DX BD Terminator 2 Arnold scam followed by Classic or original pred?"

 

[Fason]

i cant get over the fact they havent finished one figure yet from THE most popular movie ever made. i would love a 1/6 navi to tower over my other figs.

 

[eaglerabbit89]

Man where are these Avatar figures? If they are having trouble with the Navi why cant they make the amp suit with Quaritch like they did with Aliens' Ripley and power loader. And I agree with hottoysjoker so pumped for Metal Gear Solid, 1989 Batman and Avatar of course.