I don't hate either version. I just don't understand how so many people could get up in arms about me saying they look very similar this morning. I mean come on most people who aren't nerds like us can't even tell that they changed the costume at all between batman and batman returns.
i agree, i like when they change the costumes for every movie, it gives the movie its own unique look and feel. unfortunatly it looks like the TDR will have the sam od suitfrom the last one. the 89 and Returns suits do have similiarities but obviously very different as the same time.the structure of the suit is the same, but the style is totally different.
i like both symbols but honestly prefer the Returns symbol as it looks more like the comics one. as a kid i never noticed the symobl difference but i dont mind it, i just prefer the classic symbol as oposed to the 89 one. i also love both suits, but for different reasons. i like the 89 animalistic leathe bat-skin look, with the fake musculature and the all black with the bright yellow. its a classic look and real badass looking, and it started the trend of black rubber batsuits (and black eye makeup) which we still see in use to this day. but i love th Returns suit for the sleeker look and the matte black which an almost greyish tint but blends in rea nicely wit the shadows. the more "armor"ish look of the rreturns armor is cool and sleek and makes sense since the city now knows him and that he is not really a 6 foot bat but a feared crimefighter. so he doesnt really "need" to have that fake muscle stuff.
and honestly, as much as i did and still do enjoy Forever, i have a hard time counting Forever as a legit sequel to burtons films. i view it more lik nolans movies, as a reinvention of the series.
as while we're on the subject of Returns, ok so it didnt focus soley on batman, but is that even such a bad thing? sure batman is cool but i find the vilians are ussully the best thing about the batman movies. a batman movie to me, is only as good as its villians, and the villians in Returns were superbly well done right up there wit nicholsos joker. but as far as im concerned, ALL the batman movies have there flaws. i just have a harder time with nolans flaws then i do with burtons or even schumachers. i thought the original films were more fun and the visuals are hands down thebest hollywood had to offer a batman movie. the new ones to me are visually dull. but i can watch the older films over and over especially burtons, and never get tired of it. they are very entertaining. i think the older films felt more like he comic books, and i do believe a comic book movie should have a bit of camp and that OTT comic book quality to make it fun and entertaining.
not to mention elfmans music.
i sure mis hearing that theme in batman films. it hasnt been the same without his awsome scores.