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Wow, I didn't notice that. LOL OSR Facebook just posted it a few hours ago.

I kinda hope they still hold off till November. Because I still gotta pay for my qs001 next month. So if the dx13 comes in next month also. That's alot of dough to dish out in 1 month :lol
 
Atleast the T-1000 never looked strained like he was taking a massive **** whenever he'd shoot a gun or run after John.

For a character that isn't supposed to show emotion, Arnold as the first Terminator sure does show a lot of excitement. Like when he's coming across Sarah and Kyle in the garage for example, or cocking a weapon, or running after his quarry through alleys. It's always that same, post-Hercules in NY, "I got a massive log up my *** that I need to squeeze out" expression. Having that awful hair cut and 80s clothes didn't help much either. It wasn't until he got the shades, leather duds and singed/burned hair that he became the ultimate badass . . . which is the look Uncle Bob has throughout the picture! :yess:


Arnold's "cyborg" acting was much better in T2 where he wouldn't even flinch during most scenes. He didn't look like he had constipation when he's crawling on the steel mill floor after being bashed in the head, he looks like he's still going for it.


You, I love the first Terminator, but I have to somewhat agree with this. At times Arnold looked like a cyborg in T1, however, there were other times were his movements were too jerky. Take the "I'll be back scene" when he's examine the glass and wood structure. He comes across very machine like. Yet, when he asked "Where is she" and looked in the doorway behind the cop it was very quick and it seemed a little out of character.
 
Yup, but ya gotta do it.

It wasn't until a few years ago (on this very board) that I ever saw T1 and T2 pitted against each other. I just never understood it and I never will. People make it sound like T2 is pussified or something when that's just not the case. I mean, we actually see disturbing images of nuclear fire blowing LA and it's populace into ashes. What does T1 have against that? How is it not "softer" or sissified when it has a love story and dialogue like "have you ever been with a girl before" and "I loved you since I saw a picture of you" and hanging cone **** in an awkward 80s sex scene to a baaaaad track?

I love the original, but anytime I see unnecessary T2 hate, watch out. Sorry Terminator One, I love you dearly but nobody insults Uncle Bob and Mercury Copman in favor of you.

Excellent post. Same with me. I've had to defend it before too. It was even called a family movie once ( Kara!:mad:). Come on. :lol So T2 is in the same league as Beethoven and Wizard of Oz. :lol
 
I also made this post in T2 MMS thread -

Just my two cents on the T1 vs. T2 debate.

I love both movies but if someone was pointing a gun at my head and asked me to pick one then I would say T1.

I must also say that the T1 T-800 is the most intimidating character in any Terminator movie with the T-1000 being second. The T-800 stalking Sarah and Reese in the car park with the burned off eyebrows really bugged me out as a kid.

I would say that because T2 was a big budget movie then it lost a little bit of the feeling from the first movie, those ****ty effects in T1 I feel have actually contributed to its age and you really get a grim, ****ty LA from T1.

Also there is a definite horror feeling with T1 that you don't quite get in T2. Sarah and Reese being stalked by a killer cyborg with no weapons to combat it. Even as advanced as the T-1000 was in T2 Sarah and John still had their own T-800 to help them out.

T1 managed to capture a certain feel to it that T2 did not and maybe a small part of that was because most of the original Terminator was in the night time another 'horror' element.
 
I also made this post in T2 MMS thread -

Just my two cents on the T1 vs. T2 debate.

I love both movies but if someone was pointing a gun at my head and asked me to pick one then I would say T1.

I must also say that the T1 T-800 is the most intimidating character in any Terminator movie with the T-1000 being second. The T-800 stalking Sarah and Reese in the car park with the burned off eyebrows really bugged me out as a kid.

I would say that because T2 was a big budget movie then it lost a little bit of the feeling from the first movie, those ****ty effects in T1 I feel have actually contributed to its age and you really get a grim, ****ty LA from T1.

Also there is a definite horror feeling with T1 that you don't quite get in T2. Sarah and Reese being stalked by a killer cyborg with no weapons to combat it. Even as advanced as the T-1000 was in T2 Sarah and John still had their own T-800 to help them out.

T1 managed to capture a certain feel to it that T2 did not and maybe a small part of that was because most of the original Terminator was in the night time another 'horror' element.

I'm 30 now but still remember how freaked out I was watching the same scenes you're talking about as a kid. Love t1 t-800 :goodpost:
 
Also there is a definite horror feeling with T1 that you don't quite get in T2. Sarah and Reese being stalked by a killer cyborg with no weapons to combat it. Even as advanced as the T-1000 was in T2 Sarah and John still had their own T-800 to help them out.

Yeah that was a big factor in the risk not feeling quite as high in T2. Sure the T-1000 had a crazy shaping changing ability and healing factor but John's protector was still pretty much indestructible. He even fought it hand to hand during their first encounter and got up without a scratch.

But Reese? One bullet could end Sarah's protector real quick. Hand to hand combat with the Terminator hunting her? Forget it.
 
I think Sidious hits on some great points. I also actually do really like T2. It's a really fun movie. But I don't love it. You can nitpick over T-800 showing emotion, or melodramatic romance, or crappy special effects, but T2 is a more effective drama IMO. You feel real tension and anxiety when that brutal monster is coming at them. And the stuff like the rotted skin, burned eyebrows, cutting out his eyeball, etc. really contribute to that atmosphere. Yes, T2 technically has more destruction shown in the nuclear blast, and has an antagonist that could potentially kill a lot more people a lot faster than T1. But it's all couched in this action movie where you aren't made to feel that real pang of horror and anxiety that you get with T1. Both movies have pros and cons, but despite being 2 parts of a series, it is almost an apples and oranges comparison IMO, and it's actually comparable to the Resident Evil games. The first movie is "survival horror," and the second one is an "action shooter." Another good analogy would be Alien and Cameron's Aliens, which are both GREAT, but for very different reasons. Neither is better or worse, it's just a matter of taste. But. . .I sometimes can't resist taking jabs at a-dev about it :lol
 
Okay fine, I admit I really like T2 as well. The best damn after school special ever made. Because if a machine, an injurer, can learn the value of human life if properly programmed then maybe we can too.
 
You can nitpick over T-800 showing emotion
no you cannot because T-800 endoskull was done with lots of holes for nerves (in same places that a human skull has them) connected to outer flesh allowing him to mimic with or without intention (ability given even to the eye cut doll, twitching its meat for no reason after the cut was done).
well, i mean you can, but you will be wrong.
 
Okay fine, I admit I really like T2 as well. The best damn after school special ever made. Because if a machine, an injurer, can learn the value of human life if properly programmed then maybe we can too.

Hey, its not like the T-800 is made of Ice.

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no you cannot because T-800 endoskull was done with lots of holes for nerves (in same places that a human skull has them) connected to outer flesh allowing him to mimic with or without intention (ability given even to the eye cut doll, twitching its meat for no reason after the cut was done).
well, i mean you can, but you will be wrong.
I'm confused--are you saying the T-800 in T1 showing emotion was intentional, and appropriate for the character because it would have been an automatic physiological response? I don't think the films suggest one way or the other whether or not this is true. But saying T1 T-800 showed too much emotion, or T2 T-800 didn't show enough, would be a nitpick IMO because in general both showed very little, obviously by design. The clear intention in the film was that both were supposed to be the same model of Terminator, that would behave in a similar way in similar situations with similar instructions.
 
What scares me the most is thinking back to 1991 again. That and the fact broadcast tv didn't suck as much as it does today.
 
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