Hot Toys - MMS179 - The Amazing Spider-Man: Spider-Man

[Rorywan]

Right. No over reacting here.


I look forward to having it in hands. I'm sure I'll like it as much as all the other HT's I have.

I think you need to distinguish between "reacting" and "over reacting". An overwhelmingly negative response to some very disappointing pictures is not over reacting.
But glad you are happy with what you have seen so far. I respect your opinion, perhaps you should do the same with others?

Just a thought.

 

[mikericm]

I think you need to distinguish between "reacting" and "over reacting". An overwhelmingly negative response to some very disappointing pictures is not over reacting.
But glad you are happy with what you have seen so far. I respect your opinion, perhaps you should do the same with others?

Just a thought.

What in my statement says I wasn't respecting other opinions? I was making an observation. Just like me, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But to me, threathening to cancel after seeing 4 crappy pics, is over reacting. I didn't ask anyone to agree with me.

And as you have seen happen in just about EVERY thread, once better pics come out and once some have it in hand, those threatening to cancel, will change their mind. Maybe not all, but most.

 

[Rorywan]

What in my statement says I wasn't respecting other opinions? I was making an observation. Just like me, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But to me, threathening to cancel after seeing 4 crappy pics, is over reacting. I didn't ask anyone to agree with me.

And as you have seen happen in just about EVERY thread, once better pics come out and once some have it in hand, those threatening to cancel, will change their mind. Maybe not all, but most.

Well you are not respecting other peoples opinions by labeling them as over reacting, when all they are doing is being honest.

And yes this does happen with every other figure before it's mass released, but that does not mean that it's going to be better in hand. Those days of HT collecting are gone. Indy, spangled Capt, DX Bale Batman, Toyfair Batman, DX Luke to name but a few prove that sometimes this type of reaction to first pics can be well founded.

I have no doubt that we will see better pics of this same figure. Will that make the headsculpt look more like the proto? Will that fix the golf ball shoulders?
Don't think so.

 

[petes2177]

I was definitely sold on the prototype pictures but now looking at the recent pictures I'm a little on edge. I'll wait for some more pictures before passing judgment

 

[Remy]

What in my statement says I wasn't respecting other opinions? I was making an observation. Just like me, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But to me, threathening to cancel after seeing 4 crappy pics, is over reacting. I didn't ask anyone to agree with me.

And as you have seen happen in just about EVERY thread, once better pics come out and once some have it in hand, those threatening to cancel, will change their mind. Maybe not all, but most.

I think there was only one, maybe two who said they will cancel.
Everyone else says they're hoping better images will show some of the concerns. And even still, not canceling PO until better pics are shown.

And NO, it doesn't happen in EVERY thread, it happens in A LOT of threads.
As was discussed in a couple of the examples, sometimes...the figure is as bad as the pics.
Here's hoping this looks much better but not all hot toys are a home run.

 

[mikericm]

Well you are not respecting other peoples opinions by labeling them as over reacting, when all they are doing is being honest.

And yes this does happen with every other figure before it's mass released, but that does not mean that it's going to be better in hand. Those days of HT collecting are gone. Indy, spangled Capt, DX Bale Batman, Toyfair Batman, DX Luke to name but a few prove that sometimes this type of reaction to first pics can be well founded.

I'm going to have to diagree with you on me not respecting others opinions by saying I think they are over reacting. That wasn't even close to what I had in mind with my original thought. But thats your opinion, and you're entitled to it. With all the nastiness that goes on around these boards, saying people have over reacted is a far cry from being disrespectful, IMO.

Its a vicious cycle. Are you disrepecting me by saying I'm disrespecting them? I don't think so. Just opinions. Like I said, I wasn't asking anyone to agree with me. Just making an observation based on what I and many others have seen in the past. As you agreed, it does often happen.

 

[AIR]

Why are some people so condescending on this forum?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Unless HT have really tweaked the masked sculpt:

Also SUCH a shame this sculpt was amended:

 

[5x10]

Not liking the bottom of that ht neck

 

[Rorywan]

That proto looks great. ;(

 

[OSCORP]

Not even worried after the Luke fiasco. We'll see soon.

(Don't have the $ anyways right now )

 

[Gipetto0812]

so a whole 'nother week until official release?? damn that sucks.

 

[FSLAR]

You know I just noticed something...is it me or does the hair on the Garfield sculpt look a bit off?

 

[Onaisan]

You know I just noticed something...is it me or does the hair on the Garfield sculpt look a bit off?

That's not the only thing wrong with that head sculpt face palming hard at HT right now.

 

[ironwez20]

so a whole 'nother week until official release?? damn that sucks.

Lol please we all waited a year for this. A week is fine

 

[Jme_c]

You know it cracks me up when people (not refering to your post) keep bringing up those Skywalker pics as if they weren't real, or misleading.
I have 3 of those sets, and unless there is something wrong with my eyes those first pics show exactly what we got in the box, weird PERS, bad stitching, but they didn't highlight the strengths of the figure for sure.

I guess it comes down to a persons individual ability to make sense of what they are looking at, distinguish between unflattering lighting and angle as opposed to what the figure actually looks like. I feel I have seen the ASM HT figure now. Sure probably not at it's best, but already I can clearly see what my issues with it are. The head sculpt, the shoulders and sections of the costume.

You can hide these things in a good photo, but they are still there.

Derpy DX 12 Batman is still derpy, Flamenco DX Indy is still horrible, and Googly Team America puppet Luke Skywalker still looks like those first pics.
IMHO.

Do you think? I don't really see it tbh. I was very happy with Luke once I had him in hand. I know there were a few reported issues, but the only one I had with mine was the magnet on one of the hair pieces coming loose.

But your post does give hope that the Andrew Garfield Sculpt will look better in person! :/

 

[DGTWoodward]

Honest question folks, not meaning to stir up the do-do.... Is there any figure, aside from the 'realistic' covered ones like Rambo and Leonidas or the HULK arms, that does not have what is essentially a golf ball style shoulder joint?

As far as I can tell, there is no other way to represent that range of movement from a plastic joint other than to use a multi directional ball...? Sorry for the bad joke, I can't find the original picture...

...this is my lovely HT, and his shoulders hunch right up as you can see, but that's just how it was posed. The ones in the new ASM photo can be pushed down too. Even my naked bootleg body (from Headplay, thanks again Xenophilius) has those golf ball style joints, as did Hawkeye, as well as Bane and Thor even after being modded for better arms.

And for everyone of these we see...

...there is also one of these....

Moral of the story: Let's wait and see what someone with real posing and photographic skills can do with it shall we?

 

[OSCORP]

You know it cracks me up when people (not refering to your post) keep bringing up those Skywalker pics as if they weren't real, or misleading.
I have 3 of those sets, and unless there is something wrong with my eyes those first pics show exactly what we got in the box, weird PERS, bad stitching, but they didn't highlight the strengths of the figure for sure.

I guess it comes down to a persons individual ability to make sense of what they are looking at, distinguish between unflattering lighting and angle as opposed to what the figure actually looks like. I feel I have seen the ASM HT figure now. Sure probably not at it's best, but already I can clearly see what my issues with it are. The head sculpt, the shoulders and sections of the costume.

You can hide these things in a good photo, but they are still there.

Derpy DX 12 Batman is still derpy, Flamenco DX Indy is still horrible, and Googly Team America puppet Luke Skywalker still looks like those first pics.
IMHO.

Gonna have to strong disagree there.

Anyways, lately I've noticed you have a lot of problems with figures that i just don't see or am not bothered by in the least. I'll wait for better pics to surface to judge this one.

 

[Rorywan]

Gonna have to strong disagree there.

Anyways, lately I've noticed you have a lot of problems with figures that i just don't see or am not bothered by in the least. I'll wait for better pics to surface to judge this one.

Each to their own man. I really like the Star Wars DX set, which is why I ended up getting a couple of them. Personally I don't understand why it has to be so black or white, I love it, I hate it. I think the pro's outweigh the cons with Luke. But I can still be objective enough to say that the likeness isn't as good as it should be on Luke and the BD sculpt has horrible horrible PERS (The EX Vader head with painted eyes shows how good the eyes should be). And IMHO it DOES look like those first leaked pics, sure you can take a better picture of it to try and hide it's faults (as I have done many times myself), but it's still the same toy!

There seems to be a mini mental clique on SSF, which drums out the same response every time. "wait for OMG's pics", "remember the Luke fiasco", "this will look much better in hand" etc etc ad nauseum.
I don't agree with this mentality. As I find it's very rarely accurate. Or perhaps some people really can't see the wood for the trees sometimes. A photo of something is a photo of something, to really see the reality of an object, the more raw and real the quality the better. "Good" pictures hide flaws and accentuate the positive. OMG for example (I love his pics and await his reviews like everyone else) but I also know that he has an elaborate studio set-up, profession lights and photoshop retouching on all his pics. Unless you have that at home, it's not what's going to be sitting in your detolf. A crappy iphone pic at a strange angle with dodgy lighting is probably the most accurate way to show the reality of a set.

The only figure I've had a real issue with recently was Star Spangled Captain America, because the body was just very very poor. I opened the box and went "****" thats crap. As bad if not worse than some of EB's **** ups. That's a new thing for HT, in my experience anyway. Just because I acknowledge these faults doesn't mean that I hate the figure or won't buy it. I don't subscribe to the notion that if you buy something it must be perfect, and any suggestion otherwise will not be tolerated. I try to be honest and frank in my opinions on figures. The QS001 Batman for example, some good, some great some downright horrible aspects to the release.

What some freaks tend to do is jump on the negative, and ignore the positive things I point out. Just because these things are so expensive. That's not a healthy attitude to collecting. NOTHING is perfect. Ever.

Why can't we just acknowledge that? and also try to be respectful to each others opinions? One persons problem is not even noticed by another collector. That's just the way it is. What I have never done is try to enforce my view on anyone else or knock anyone else for feeling the polar opposite. Because i don't think thats cool, and this is supposed to be fun after all.


And regarding Spidey..
I'm still holding back full judgement, not because I need to see better pics of the Garfield head sculpt, I know I hate it already, but I need to see the masked head properly on that body and see if it's possible to futz those shoulders better.
This could still look like a great Spidey on display. Just not as a Garfield version.

 

[DGTWoodward]

So you really think it's not better to wait and see either when better pictures of it get taken by someone with actual skill nor seeing what it's really like inhand? So if wanting to see better images of figures or the actual figures themselves is demonstrating part of a clique mentality, in other words not something you personally would do...what on earth are you basing your opinions on? When I've said those things, and I have said them...in this thread in fact, I meant them. I was not voicing those thoughts just because a select few might have done so previously, and that I just wanted to be in the 'in crowd'. To me that wild assumption is just ludicrous and insulting.

So where am I in your huge and now clearly inaccurate and totally condescending generalisation?

Who ever said anything in this game is ever black and white? I LOVE MY 1:6 collection but I know without a doubt that the Big Chief Studios AMY POND figure is absolutely the very worst figure I have ever bought, and my review of it is a lot, lot less than favourable. My wife doesn't even want to acknowledge it, such is her dislike of it. Do I think that all of my figures are absolutely and 100% completely perfect? No of course I don't, because that's just being deliberately stupid, and I'd bet that no one else here does so of their personal collections either. Because we all know the truth...that it is impossible to achieve perfection of such things in the 1:6 scale, it's usually hard enough in the 1:1. So then, even though you cannot see it, your view becomes as extreme as those of whom you accuse extremism. And why....?

Because Rory, my forum friend, you seem to be stating the bleeding obvious regarding the collecting of these figures, and assuming that you are the only one that thinks rationally about them. When in fact, some of your ideas...like about what's 'cliquey' and what is not, are a demonstration of your own version of "extreme". Just like me, you are absolutely no different from any other person here.

And so, if waiting for better pictures, or waiting to see what the 'in hand' opinion is, is being in any way unusual or strange...well then you'll just have to paint me unusual and strange.