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[JMW326]

I'm going to kill someone if I get another email from SSC about something that isn't related to this going up for PO.

I think they are just messing with us now.

 

[SkyIScrape]

Ok I have a question for you guys:

If a collector were to get this figure for lets say $250 retail price. And it sells out in a couple of days. And someone missed the chance to get it either because it sold out too quickly or they were in a country where they could not purchase. And would spend lets say $500 for it. Would the collector be in the wrong to sell it to the person who missed out on it for whatever reason at a higher price?

It's not wrong. Everyone in the west grows up thinking that whatever we do has to be for profit. We all have our own moral compass, though. Personally, I think it's immoral to profit from someone else's misfortune, even something so minor as missing the PO on a limited action figure. Personally, I would never buy an extra one to sell it for double its value. I would maybe buy one to trade for something, but never to sell for profit. I think the notion is disgusting and represents a lot of what's wrong with the world today

 

[mikericm]

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Ok I have a question for you guys:

If a collector were to get this figure for lets say $250 retail price. And it sells out in a couple of days. And someone missed the chance to get it either because it sold out too quickly or they were in a country where they could not purchase. And would spend lets say $500 for it. Would the collector be in the wrong to sell it to the person who missed out on it for whatever reason at a higher price?

Interesting question for someone not scalping.

Just saying .......

 

[Jeff12burq]

Everyone has their own ethical compass. Figure that out for yourself.

I already have it figured out....just wondering what other people's opinion was......jeeeeez!

 

[Darth Lam]

I think they are just messing with us now.

It's typical practice for Sideshow to send out a Friday email about what went up for preorder in the Thursday newsletter. Happens every week. But yeah, I found it a lot more annoying today.

 

[Jeff12burq]

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Interesting question for someone not scalping.

Just saying .......

Ok so if you had something that was worth $100 to you, but $300 to someone else. Wouldn't you sell it for $300??? Or would you just sell it to them for what you paid for it? Answer me that, good sir!

 

[Jeff12burq]

It's not wrong. Everyone in the west grows up thinking that whatever we do has to be for profit. We all have our own moral compass, though. Personally, I think it's immoral to profit from someone else's misfortune, even something so minor as missing the PO on a limited action figure. Personally, I would never buy an extra one to sell it for double its value. I would maybe buy one to trade for something, but never to sell for profit. I think the notion is disgusting and represents a lot of what's wrong with the world today

Ok so if you had something that was worth $100 to you, but $300 to someone else. Wouldn't you sell it for $300??? Or would you just sell it to them for what you paid for it? Answer me that, good sir!

 

[Loki]

If they said they'll pay $500 for it without any prior comments or requests about the price, I'd probably go halfway and offer ~$300. That way, I make some semblance of a profit and the buyer wouldn't have to go overboard in terms of payment. That being said, I wouldn't buy a figure just to profit off it.

 

[Jeff12burq]

If they said they'll pay $500 for it without any prior comments or requests about the price, I'd probably go halfway and offer ~$300. That way, I make some semblance of a profit and the buyer wouldn't have to go overboard in terms of payment. That being said, I wouldn't buy a figure just to profit off it.

That would be a very generous thing of you.

 

[galmando]

Ok so if you had something that was worth $100 to you, but $300 to someone else. Wouldn't you sell it for $300??? Or would you just sell it to them for what you paid for it? Answer me that, good sir!

I think you're missing the point, this isn't like someone who has issue 1 of amazing spiderman that they bought as a child and has become a collectors item

You're implying that you are going to buy something with the intention of selling it for a higher price once it sells out

That doesn't sit right with me personally

If that's not what you're doing, then I apologise, it's just the impression i'm getting

 

[Femtech]

@ThatIsTooReal:

I don't believe in "tough luck." There's no, "Oh well, too bad," in my book, be that to my benefit or detriment. If a person desires something that I was fortunate enough to obtain, and their desire for that item is stronger than mine, then I will give it to them for what it took me to acquire it. People should earn money by helping society, not by taking advantage of strangers, even if those people invite themselves to be taken advantage of.

There are, of course, exceptions. A man I knew once owned one of the rarest 1/6 collectibles to date. But upon hearing that his friend of many years had come unto deteriorating health, the man sought to sell this collectible for as much as he could garner for it. And even during this process, the man was apprehensive toward wishing such sums of buyers. The buyers were more than willing to pay, but their willingness did not make the scenario any easier for the man. But the man was a good friend to the one of deteriorating health. "It's only a toy," the man said.

@Jeff12burq:

Only you know what a situation is worth to you. You're already a good person for even asking the forum this question; whatever you decide, you'll always have that going for you. All we can offer are our opinions, and it's important to point out that our opinions don't affect how we view our friends here. Our differences make us worthwhile.

 

[SkyIScrape]

Ok so if you had something that was worth $100 to you, but $300 to someone else. Wouldn't you sell it for $300??? Or would you just sell it to them for what you paid for it? Answer me that, good sir!

The question you asked implied that the transaction was happening immediately, so my own personal value doesn't come into it. I wouldn't care about something I was going to immediately sell for profit. The thought of an individual buying one for the express purpose of flipping it for double my costs is, to me, simply immoral and I would never do it, so I can't speak about the thought process or considerations involved.

 

[galmando]

Here's a different scenario, someone buys this and the reg version but decides to keep the reg version and sell the BD limited edition, if someine wants to pay sillynamounts for it then that's a win for the seller

But there was no intention to exploit anyone

I also disagree with this 'if you're late to the party, tough luck' statement

If we're talking a year down the line, like me with BW, then fair enough, i had to expect that, but if someone is ordering 2 or 3 of these, the someone is going to miss out even if they log on an hour later

That's not fair, which is why i think it should be 1 per customer for the exclusives

 

[mikericm]

Ok so if you had something that was worth $100 to you, but $300 to someone else. Wouldn't you sell it for $300??? Or would you just sell it to them for what you paid for it? Answer me that, good sir!

In the context you're speaking of, I think its wrong. If you get a 2nd of this, you're preventing someone else from a chance at getting it for retail. If the shoe were on the other foot, how would you like being the one who missed out, sir?

 

[joshh]

In the context you're speaking of, I think its wrong. If you get a 2nd of this, you're preventing someone else from a chance at getting it for retail. If the shoe were on the other foot, how would you like being the one who missed out, sir?

Totally agree.
I also agree with the 1 per person in exclusives limit.
Allowing a buyer to purchase two, it is simply a haven for scalpers.

 

[Darth Lam]

Isn't it normally only 1 per customer anyways?

 

[Jeff12burq]

In the context you're speaking of, I think its wrong. If you get a 2nd of this, you're preventing someone else from a chance at getting it for retail. If the shoe were on the other foot, how would you like being the one who missed out, sir?

I would be very frustrated!

I totally see what you're saying, about taking someone elses, but I am 99.9% sure this will be limited one per customer.

My thinking is that if I get one and someone is wants one also REALLY badly and would pay $500 for it and is in a country where they can't buy from sideshow, then I don't feel like there's anything wrong with that. Both parties benefit from the transaction. I don't intend on doing that, but it's always an option.

Just wanted to see what other collectors thought. You have a good day!

 

[Jeff12burq]

The question you asked implied that the transaction was happening immediately, so my own personal value doesn't come into it. I wouldn't care about something I was going to immediately sell for profit. The thought of an individual buying one for the express purpose of flipping it for double my costs is, to me, simply immoral and I would never do it, so I can't speak about the thought process or considerations involved.

I did bring up the fact that one might be in a country unable to buy through sideshow. Also, you seem like a great friend, but terrible business partner! Have a good one!

 

[SkyIScrape]

I did bring up the fact that one might be in a country unable to buy through sideshow. Also, you seem like a great friend, but terrible business partner! Have a good one!

you're probably right

 

[GwenStacy]

"Your a scalper! No your the scalper!"

You can tell the truth or you can lie. No one can tell the difference on forums so whats the point. Trolls, go to the troll forum.