Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[RyanSD]

No its not bad because it deviated from comics, its bad because it deviated too much from established continuity on the other 2 Ironman movies. Its like the logic and tech completely changed to the point that it shouldn't even be ironman 3 or part of the same world as the first two movies. The only similarity were the actors.

I disagree. Sure, IM3 has plot holes, but so did IM, IM2, Avengers, etc. Nothing in IM3 is too far fetched given the established world the movie takes place in.

 

[Niltusk]

For me

IM1 > IM3 > IM2

Thats where I'm at, and alot of it is the side characters... trevor the little kid, even Tony hair stalker guy. I don't know where I stand on the villains and the IP being a huge paperweight the entire movie, but there was definitely enough for 3 to be worth it to me.

 

[RIDDICK]

this is rather simple

Iron Man >>> Iron Man II >>>>>> Iron Spoof

 

[The Josh]

For me

IM1 > IM3 > IM2

That's where I'd rank them as well.

 

[Darkmatter]

https://youtu.be/vgYhLIThTvk

k smith rocks!!!!!

 

[DiFabio]

You know you like it Riddick, deep down inside. You love Trevor. Your avatar, your sig, it's . . . you.

 

[jye4ever]

Mine too.


But I'm not as hard on Iron Man 2 as I used to be. I watched it recently on FX and it does have some great parts (court scene, action sequences, Justin Hammer, Howard Stark tape).


I actually like them all for different reasons. Iron Man will never be topped though.

Same here. In fact, it's probably my least favorite of all of the Marvel Universe films since the original Iron Man. But that doesn't mean I think it's completely terrible, either. They're all at lease decent flicks, which is a good thing.

Like I said, this is more TDKR/Spiderman 3 than it is Batman & Robin. I'm definitely not in line with those haters.

What pushed IM2 over IM3 for me is Hammer > Killian, both in villain and in actor.

Hammer's goal of replacing Stark's void in the pentagon was better than Killian's goal of being Bane to Pepper's Talia.

What hurts 3 most for me was Killian's AIM, over complication of action, lack of Rhodey IP action, and the silly PTSD.

Waaa, Waaaa....little kid said wormhole

shut up.

 

[DiFabio]

Hammer is great but,


Trevor > Hammer



Who cares about Killian's plans. Trevor sucked **** in alleys for drugs.

 

[RIDDICK]

You know you like it Riddick, deep down inside. You love Trevor. Your avatar, your sig, it's . . . you.

I loved the trolling factor for sure.
But I went to see an "Iron Man" film and instead saw a weak attempt to crap on Hollywood.

 

[Darkmatter]

When Iron Man does it, it's "ballsy". When Indiana Jones does it it's "nuking the fridge" and "raping childhoods". Got it.

i liked the crystal skull storyline and yes, the fridge. the problem with that movie was harrison ford. his character didn't have the same impact as an older man. i worry for SWVII and just how much of a role he'll play. luke and leia are no spring chickens either. age sucks.

 

[jye4ever]

Hammer is great but,


Trevor > Hammer

Trevor's shirt waving as his introductio scene was hilarious and creepy all rolled up into one.

I had to walk out of my bathroom at home after leaving a stink waving my shirt warning my wife.

 

[IrishJedi]

i liked the crystal skull storyline and yes, the fridge. the problem with that movie was harrison ford. his character didn't have the same impact as an older man. i worry for SWVII and just how much of a role he'll play. luke and leia are no spring chickens either. age sucks.

That's weird. Because though I have several issues with KOTCS, Harrison Ford's age is not even close to being one of them.

Just like I have several issues with IM3, but none of the characters are a problem for me (well, except got Super-Pepper, because **** that).

Eh, different strokes...

 

[Darkmatter]

They should let me write Iron man 3. Tony would be in the Heartbreaker armor and ripping peoples heads off... just saying.

a lot of people didn't like the exploration of the real tony, his faults and fears, and having his girl save the day. this story included a rewrite of demon in a bottle...dysfunction in the forefront. BUT...he did again what he did in IM1, making things work out of scraps in a kid's garage. people don't understand that his house and workshop including jarvis were put out of commission. tony had to wing it with his resources unavailable. this is why his usual dependable armor failed on several occasions. the specialty armors weren't meant for battle but for specific purposes. so they were strong in some ways and weak in others. in the end however, his KNOWLEDGE and INTELLIGENCE saved the day, with help from pepper of course. behind every good man, is a good woman. people need to step back and see all the good things about the movie. maybe they'll then accept the quirky things.

 

[jye4ever]

Bad *** Digest:

This article includes spoilers for Iron Man 3.

I'm rarely shocked by twists in movies these days. The nature of my job, and the nature of the friendships I have in the industry, usually means that I'm aware of plot twists and secret cameos months before a movie is released. That's not a complaint, simply an acknowledgement of how I tend to walk into films like Iron Man 3.

But I was very, very surprised by the Mandarin reveal in Iron Man 3. That reveal was so huge, so consequential to the story, that I couldn't believe it had remained secret right up to the first press screening in America. How, in this spoiler-heavy, scoop-stalked landscape of modern movie blogging did Marvel keep the secret so well?

One answer is that they didn't turn to JJ Abrams' Mystery Box. The Star Trek Into Darkness filmmaker is obsessed with secrecy on his films - he made the Trek cast wear robes when going back and forth to set during the shooting of 2009's Star Trek, despite the fact that their costumes were pretty much the original series costumes - and he bends over backwards to keep any information from reaching the fans. Marvel, instead, gave the impression of being forthcoming. They revealed The Mandarin last summer, and they kept the character as the focus of the marketing in the months since. When Aldrich Killian character posters popped up everybody wondered why the studio was wasting ink on an obviously minor character.

By giving the fans info up front - a look at the costumes, a hint of the story - Marvel satiated the basic desire for details. There were still those digging, but they were misdirected into searching out scoops about the post-credits stinger. The movie's biggest secret stayed hidden, almost in plain sight.

Meanwhile JJ Abrams continues to shove his mystery box in our faces. The identity of Star Trek Into Darkness' villain is a poorly kept secret... but for some reason it's still kept. Abrams runs around showing off the mystery, taunting the fans with the fact that they know nothing. That just isn't how you keep something a mystery. A magician doesn't go on stage and make the mechanics of his trick the flashiest element of the show. He misdirects, and the real mystery box, the real device that makes the assistant disappear, is mostly hidden and when it can be seen is pretty plain.

I've long argued that the mystery box is a terrible way of selling a movie, and the latest Star Trek Into Darkness tracking numbers bear that out. The film, two weeks before opening, is showing only 9% of people have it as their first choice for moviegoing that weekend. The movie will likely open, but the opening weekend estimates have been steadily dropping. All the while the film's true villain - the real hook for Star Trek Into Darkness - is kept out of all the marketing. I know there was a move to reveal him during March Madness, but that never happened. Will, in the face of bad tracking, Paramount opt to spill the beans in the coming weeks?

Next time JJ Abrams should take a page from the Marvel playbook. Give the fans information. Release photos. Misdirect the conversation to something that will obfuscate the reality of what you're doing. Don't taunt the fans. Don't withold without reason. The best way to keep a secret is to not even let on that there's a secret

 

[Irvy]

Shane Black laughs in the face of this puny nerd war.

Any cast member of pred is automatically elite for all time. May Valhalla welcome him home some day

 

[DiFabio]

Not Jesse Ventura.

 

[mojo customz]

no matter what we say about this popcorn flick it will make at the least 1 billion and im4 will be 2015------
im4----lets see what other comic bad guy we can ruin---tony will be in group therapy with the rest of avengers----i mean i can see bruce gripping that he does not like being green------

 

[Irvy]

Not Jesse Ventura.

 

[Darkmatter]

Bad *** Digest:

This article includes spoilers for Iron Man 3.

I'm rarely shocked by twists in movies these days. The nature of my job, and the nature of the friendships I have in the industry, usually means that I'm aware of plot twists and secret cameos months before a movie is released. That's not a complaint, simply an acknowledgement of how I tend to walk into films like Iron Man 3.

But I was very, very surprised by the Mandarin reveal in Iron Man 3. That reveal was so huge, so consequential to the story, that I couldn't believe it had remained secret right up to the first press screening in America. How, in this spoiler-heavy, scoop-stalked landscape of modern movie blogging did Marvel keep the secret so well?

One answer is that they didn't turn to JJ Abrams' Mystery Box. The Star Trek Into Darkness filmmaker is obsessed with secrecy on his films - he made the Trek cast wear robes when going back and forth to set during the shooting of 2009's Star Trek, despite the fact that their costumes were pretty much the original series costumes - and he bends over backwards to keep any information from reaching the fans. Marvel, instead, gave the impression of being forthcoming. They revealed The Mandarin last summer, and they kept the character as the focus of the marketing in the months since. When Aldrich Killian character posters popped up everybody wondered why the studio was wasting ink on an obviously minor character.

By giving the fans info up front - a look at the costumes, a hint of the story - Marvel satiated the basic desire for details. There were still those digging, but they were misdirected into searching out scoops about the post-credits stinger. The movie's biggest secret stayed hidden, almost in plain sight.

Meanwhile JJ Abrams continues to shove his mystery box in our faces. The identity of Star Trek Into Darkness' villain is a poorly kept secret... but for some reason it's still kept. Abrams runs around showing off the mystery, taunting the fans with the fact that they know nothing. That just isn't how you keep something a mystery. A magician doesn't go on stage and make the mechanics of his trick the flashiest element of the show. He misdirects, and the real mystery box, the real device that makes the assistant disappear, is mostly hidden and when it can be seen is pretty plain.

I've long argued that the mystery box is a terrible way of selling a movie, and the latest Star Trek Into Darkness tracking numbers bear that out. The film, two weeks before opening, is showing only 9% of people have it as their first choice for moviegoing that weekend. The movie will likely open, but the opening weekend estimates have been steadily dropping. All the while the film's true villain - the real hook for Star Trek Into Darkness - is kept out of all the marketing. I know there was a move to reveal him during March Madness, but that never happened. Will, in the face of bad tracking, Paramount opt to spill the beans in the coming weeks?

Next time JJ Abrams should take a page from the Marvel playbook. Give the fans information. Release photos. Misdirect the conversation to something that will obfuscate the reality of what you're doing. Don't taunt the fans. Don't withold without reason. The best way to keep a secret is to not even let on that there's a secret

if everyone remembers, the timeline was skewed in the first star trek by nero and his returning to the past with a powerful ship from the future. spock's mom died, kirk's father died. the timeline was NEVER corrected. or does abrams contend that this is the timeline to be in, skewed or not? fans of the new franchise should expect that to be fixed, but it doesn't look like it from the previews. looks like a possible renegade against the federation again but the actual storyline isn't explained either. if jj abrams doesn't want to piss off every star trek fan in the universe, he'd better not bank they have memory loss. inconsistencies will not be tolerated.

 

[jye4ever]

I'll be content if Stark uses one armor in his next outing, and he's in it.