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Pretty much. This idiot who doesn't like this movie because he's an idiot understands.

Idiot. :lecture




:lol :D

This post just proved my point. The people that need thicker skin are those that feel the need to defend this film when someone posts things they don't like about it.

U guys convinced me, IM3 is the best movie ever do u feel better about your opinion now that it's validated. Since it seems u need validation to feel good about it.
 
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let them post their thoughts without calling them out or feeling the need to question them. That's all I am saying.

I'm glad you respect other people opinions to value this movie as they see fit, regardless of how much they liked it.

I don't have a problem with people enjoying the movie I have problem with them saying it was a great movie and up to par with what came before it.

Too bad you hadn't taken your meds before posting this last night when you had a problem with people that thought the movie was great. :lol
 
Just thought of another thing that reminded me of Batman Forever other than the Killian/Nygma similarity

The Villain destroys the hero's suits and vehicles, leaving him to use a prototype suit from then on.
 
The Similarities Between Iron Man 3 and The Dark Knight Rises

We found certain paralels between the two third superhero movies.

Let's get this out of the way right up front: Iron Man 3 and The Dark Knight Rises both rock so this isn't a criticism of either movie. We're also NOT saying Iron Man 3 ripped off TDKR as the Marvel sequel was already in the works by the time Nolan's Batman finale opened.

The purpose of this feature is to simply point out some of the superficial, but noteworthy similarities between the two third installments in these superhero trilogies. Of course, SPOILERS for both films lie ahead.

So without further ado ...

Reclusive Hero

The beginning of both movies sees the hero having withdrawn from the world after the events of their last big screen appearance. Reeling from the alien invasion and near-death experience he faced in The Avengers, Tony has essentially holed up inside his mansion building dozens of new versions of his Iron Man armor, much to the chagrin of his significant other Pepper Potts. Bruce Wayne has become a full-fledged hermit, to the point that Howard Hughes-esque legends have sprung up around him. He hobbles around Wayne Manor in his housecoat, waiting for a chance to startle a sexy thief with his archery skills.

Hero's Malady

The films' respective superheroes both face debilitating issues. Tony Stark has crippling anxiety attacks as a result of the events of The Avengers, while Bruce Wayne must recover from the broken back Bane gave him (he also starts out with a limp from the injuries he received during TDK). Both heroes have to rise to the occasion to overcome their respective maladies if they're to stop the bad guys and save the day.

Sins of the Past

The sins of the heroes' pasts come back to haunt them in a big way in their respective third films. Tony's rejection of both Maya Hansen and Aldrich Killian fuel their desire to hurt him in the present, while Batman's complicity in spreading the lie of Harvey Dent's heroism is brought to light by Bane.

Villain With an Odd Voice

Much has been made about Tom Hardy's curious vocal choice for TDKR bad guy Bane. It's inspired countless parody videos, jokes, imitations and rants. Similarly, Ben Kingsley's choice - or is that Trevor Slattery's? -- for the Mandarin's voice has almost been equally talked about, but as Iron Man 3's big twist reveals it's all a put-on anyway. Bane, on the hand, really talked like that.

Far From Home

Tony Stark spends a good chunk of Iron Man 3 in a small town in Tennessee where he uncovers details on Extremis and A.I.M. before finally ending up in Miami. After Bane breaks him, Bruce Wayne is imprisoned in that hellhole prison in Crapistan (or wherever it was on the other side of the world) where he must heal himself physically and psychologically before he can return to save Gotham.

Best Pal Hospitalized

Happy Hogan gets caught in the bad guys' blast, landing him in the hospital and prompting Tony to call out the Mandarin on TV and give him his address to come get him. Commissioner Gordon runs afoul of Bane, getting shot before he can make his escape. A hospitalized Gordon spurs a retired Batman to get back on the horse, er, Batpod.

Loss of Estate & Belongings

The Mandarin's copters leveled Tony's Malibu mansion, destroying his oceanfront headquarters in spectacular fashion. Bruce Wayne lost his home and valuables in a less showy, but just as devastating manner as the bad guys managed to legally cost Wayne his fortune (Bruce ended up so broke the power was even turned off in Wayne Manor). Bruce's "death" also led to Wayne Manor being turned into an orphanage. In the end, both heroes leave their old stomping grounds behind for new beginnings.

Hero is Believed Dead

After the Mandarin destroys Tony's home, the media presumes Stark is dead. Even Pepper thinks he's gone until he calls her. Stark then lets the ruse play out awhile longer for his own reasons. The Dark Knight Rises, of course, ends with Batman sacrificing himself to save Gotham City from Bane's nuke (and Bruce Wayne conveniently dying during the city's occupation), which we are led to believe until Alfred makes his fateful visit to that cafe.

Young Sidekick

Tony Stark gets assistance from that young boy in Tennessee (as well as from that worshipful TV news van tech), while Nolan's Batman finally gets his Robin in the form of GCPD officer John Blake.

Female Colleague/Secondary Love Interest is Really a Villain

Anyone who read the "Extremis" storyline from the comics knew that Iron Man 3's Maya Hansen was bound to betray Tony at some point. The casting of Marion Cotillard in TDKR never quite fooled anyone that Wayne Enterprises board member Miranda Tate wasn't anyone other than the character that fans had long suspected she was, Talia Al Ghul.

The Villain Twist

As stated above, TDKR's villain twist is that Miranda Tate is actually Talia Al Ghul, the leader of the League of Shadows. But in Iron Man 3, the twist is that the Mandarin is actually just an actor named Trevor Slattery, who is hired to play a bogeyman terrorist character as part of a ruse perpetuated by the film's true evil mastermind, Aldrich Killian.
Love Interest Saves Hero, Kills Villain

An Extremis-infused Pepper Potts saves Tony and kills Killian, even spouting a line afterward about how violent it all was. Catwoman blows away Bane just as he's about to kill Batman, quipping that she has a very different view on guns than Batman.

Clean Slate

In Iron Man 3, "clean slate" is a protocol whereby Tony destroys all of his armor. In TDKR, "clean slate" is a storied computer program that can wipe out someone's past and allow them a second chance. Both Iron Man and Batman take full advantage of their respective clean slates in the end.

Where's My British Servant?

At one point during Iron Man 3, Tony loses the services of his English-accented A.I. program/helper Jarvis when the latter needs to recharge. During TDKR, Bruce fires Alfred after learning during a teary-eyed exchange that his loyal butler and father figure had lied to him about Rachel Dawes' feelings toward Harvey Dent. The absence of both Jarvis and Alfred leave our respective heroes with notable voids in the homestretch.

Aussie Actor as Corporate Bad Guy

Australian star Guy Pearce plays Aldrich Killian, whose company A.I.M. is behind the Extremis program and all of Tony's woes in Iron Man 3. Meanwhile in TDKR, Aussie character actor Ben Mendelsohn plays shady Wayne Enterprises board member John Daggett, who bankrolls Bane's crimes even as he schemes to wrest control of Bruce's company away from him.

Hail to The Chief

The President of the United States is a character in both films. Iron Man 3 makes the President (played by Die Hard 2's William Sadler) a major supporting character whose rescue is a key part of the finale. TDKR sees the President (played by 24's William Devane) pop up in news broadcasts about Bane's occupation of Gotham.
 
I just don't understand the hate for the Mandarin twist. We probably wouldn't be seeing him featured in another Iron Man movie anyways, so why not have a lot of the movie with him as the "real" Mandarin, then pull off a (hilarious) stunt by revealing him as an actor? It gave more room for Killian, too, whom I thought was pretty badass.

For me anyways it's not that the twist ruined the Mandarin. I really knew nothing about the character. What sucked was

1. Before the Twist he was such a great bad guy. There was a real sense of evil there. Then Bam. He really is not what we think. A great character wasted. Second viewing will suck.

2. The guy he turns out to be was far too over the top and goofy. **** jokes and stupid personality ruined the whole feel of the film.

3. The back up / real villain was nowhere near as good or cool as the Mandarin was before the reveal.
 
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