Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[CelticPredator]

That is the best post in this thread by far.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm working on my Trevor Slattery cosplay outfit

Yes....

 

[jye4ever]

Mike, you are an idea god, great read as usual.

Good stuff from Mad Old Lu as well.

But why does it have to stop at 1 villain?

How about if it was Stark being attacked by Killian and Mandarin?

Maybe Killian and his forces taking on Mandarin as a power struggle while simultaneously battling Stark/Rhodey.

The alien rings could've been Mandarin's proper weapons, maybe one ring could mess with the Iron Man suit, another ring for mind control, another ring cops a feel on Pepper's ****s.

Listen, at this point just don't mess with what was given to us in IM1.

Unless they could somehow implicate Obi Stane even deeper with AIM or even the President of the United States also being dirty.

I've been thinking about the plastic surgery bit again.

Maybe One of the bimbos in the bed was the Mandarin.

 

[JAWS]

The whole trilogy is about that. They make up new demons each movie. Next movie is globophobia.

 

[JonWes]

I wrote this on another board, but I think it's a decent enough point to make that I'm reposting. I post this as an ardent Iron Man fan:

Even though he's a big Iron Man villain... it's almost by default. The truth is, the Mandarin has been involved in some pretty good stories... but nothing classic. And he's been constantly reinvented since his introduction in an effort to move away from his racist, Fu Manchu/Yellow Peril roots. I actually think sometimes the people who complain the most about what they did to him are kind of in the middle of knowledge about Iron Man. They know enough to know he's a big villain, but they haven't read enough actual Iron Man books to know that his treatment in the comics has been less than reverent, and in some cases, he's been purposefully pushed into the background. There's a reason the Iron Man animated series tried to turn him into a half-dragon man! So that's why I actually felt more prepared for it. I honestly never thought I'd see Mandarin in the movie. When they announced him, I was excited. When they said Ben Kingsley was playing him... less so. That's the thing I don't get. If people are so reverent of the idea of the Mandarin, how in the hee-haw was Ben Kingsley playing him as some terrorist ring leader of non-Asian descent respectful of the source material? It's already off the rails. So taking it one step further didn't bother me. In fact, it was something of a relief.

 

[Irvy]

I bet you 20 bucks Trevor is going to grow a super ego, and try and go after Iron Man.


Hopefully the final battle is over in seconds with a swift lethal punch to the face.

They could have an epic ACT OFF for the finale. Shakespeare in the park?

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

The twist with Mandarin didn't bother me, but other things did. However, People should spend less time trying to convince others that didn't like the twist that they are wrong for having issues with it. Why do people who like this movie feel the need to defend it and attack people that took issue with it?? If u guys let us just post our thoughts and not suggest that we are stupid or picky or insane for not liking the movie and explaining stuff to us that wasn't in the movie (and should have been) then we wouldn't have the stupid back n forth bickering.

Its not a perfect movie by any stretch and if people want to call it out because it didn't explain certain things properly, ignored events and technology (namely the arc reactor and powering the suit )that was established in the previous IM movies, they have the right too.

I am happy some people really liked this movie, and u can post all the raving reviews u want and I will read them and respect ur opinion, not call u out for liking it. So let people post their feelings/opinions and stop the personal attacks and insinuating comments. Not one person criticizing this film is calling out people that liked it, we are simply stating what we didn't like about it, yet we are promptly called out by those that are fanatic about this film. Its as if u have to convince urselfs that its so good and don't want to see anyone criticize. When someone post bad things about the movie its NOT a personal attack on your opinion of the film. Jeez.

 

[Loki]

I just don't understand the hate for the Mandarin twist. We probably wouldn't be seeing him featured in another Iron Man movie anyways, so why not have a lot of the movie with him as the "real" Mandarin, then pull off a (hilarious) stunt by revealing him as an actor? It gave more room for Killian, too, whom I thought was pretty badass.

 

[CelticPredator]

How are you supposed to have a discussion if you just ignore the opposite opinion?

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

How are you supposed to have a discussion if you just ignore the opposite opinion?

Ignore is probably the wrong word, what I meant to say read it but not attack someone for liking it. It does no good to try and convince someone who likes something not to like it. That is their right to like it, they have a right to their opinion. I am just saying those that like it have something in common and its better for them to discuss it then for them to attack peoples opinions that don't. Let those that have issues with it debate it. Either way nothing good will come of trying to convince someone your opinion is right and theirs is wrong..

 

[JonWes]

Hmm... I haven't seen much in the way of attacking. Just debate. I guess a few people have outright said "You're wrong" or something like that, but I guess I usually take those as being more light-hearted and not serious?

 

[jye4ever]

Ignore is probably the wrong word, what I meant to say read it but not attack someone for liking it. It does no good to try and convince someone who likes something not to like it. That is their right to like it, they have a right to their opinion. I am just saying those that like it have something in common and its better for them to discuss it then for them to attack peoples opinions that don't. Let those that have issues with it debate it. Either way nothing good will come of trying to convince someone your opinion is right and theirs is wrong..

I haven't seen any side trying to shut down the other side though.

I hate it when I miss forum battles.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Hmm... I haven't seen much in the way of attacking. Just debate.

Calling out people and explaining stuff that's not in the movie or trying to discount their issues as picky is not attacking?? Just let them post their thoughts without calling them out or feeling the need to question them. That's all I am saying.

Lol some of u guys like to argue and bicker I guess. My last post wasn't even argumentative but u found a word init u could use to turn it into an argument. I am impressed!!

 

[JonWes]

Calling out people and explaining stuff that's not in the movie or trying to discount their issues as picky is not attacking. Just let them post their thoughts without calling them out or feeling the need to question them. That's all I am saying.

That's less of a message board and more of a review thread on Amazon, though. I think everyone's opinions should be respected, if they aren't allowed to be questioned... then that doesn't make for much of a "discussion" thread.

 

[CelticPredator]

Calling out people and explaining stuff that's not in the movie or trying to discount their issues as picky is not attacking. Just let them post their thoughts without calling them out or feeling the need to question them. That's all I am saying.

They can. But I'm going to question them, because I think they are off base with comments like that. You can't use something that doesn't exist in this film's world to justify something else.

The comics don't have any say here. Any say they had, they put on screen. And what's on screen, is what's on screen.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

They can. But I'm going to question them, because I think they are off base with comments like that. You can't use something that doesn't exist in this film's world to justify something else.

The comics don't have any say here. Any say they had, they put on screen. And what's on screen, is what's on screen.

Questioning off base comments is fine but quoting posters with valid issues and intentionally ignoring valid points within the post just for the sake of proving your opinion, and filling in the blanks or gaps of logic in the movie with stuff that wasnt in the movie to explain it is absurd and is not considered a discussion

Trying to convince someone that the movie is good and they are wrong for not liking it, is not a discussion. Its called one way communication aimed at convincing someone else they are wrong. Honestly people can post how much they hated it but its not gonna convince u that u shouldn't like it. All it leads too is endless rhetoric where people keep saying the same thing and nothing is accomplished. Just read a few pages of this thread, its same stuff over and over, its not a discussion, u may as well talk to the wall and have what u are calling a discussion.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I haven't really seen too much "calling out", which admittedly is rare on this forum!

If anything, it seems as if the haters are being more aggressive towards the likers by saying they (we) are simple minded folk who are able to leave their brains at the door and enjoy empty entertainment.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

I haven't really seen too much "calling out", which admittedly is rare on this forum!

If anything, it seems as if the haters are being more aggressive towards the likers by saying they (we) are simple minded folk who are able to leave their brains at the door and enjoy empty entertainment.

Yes I agree. My point is, neither group should be doing that because its counterproductive

 

[CelticPredator]

It's discussing. I don't agree with using the comics to fill in gaps. And i'm going to explain why.

 

[jye4ever]

Meh

grow thicker internet skin