Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[CelticPredator]

It was explained the moment reality went out the ****ing window when Thor's blond *** showed up.

 

[The Josh]

Enlighten me please? Because I didn't hear anything that actually explained it in any logical way, and as far as I can remember I was paying reasonable attention?

It's an unstable material. They try to show that with the fern at the start and why the one bad guy asks the solider can he regulate. It's being sold to these guys as a drug but since its not guaranteed to be stable they can be like the plant. Hence when they blow up because they're getting more than the plant they turn into a bomb.

 

[jye4ever]

Wait,

I thought the Chinese theater explosion was terrorist in nature and not an accidental "overdose".

 

[Rorywan]

, ok I didn't miss anything then. It doesn't make a bit of sense. I thought it was fun though, I liked Downey and the kid. Thought it was funny that Stark was such a spoilt brag that they were almost at the same mental level sociologically.

 

[intothevoid]

Those suits are absolutely drones by definition. Our military drones perform the same exact way: they allow a "pilot" to operate it remotely from a laptop safely out of harm's way. This is what Iron Man does in an Iron Man movie, and I think that's pretty lame. Sorry, I just do. But different strokes, and all that...

I liked the idea as a social commentary - particularly given the fact that Tony destroys them in the end, he realizes that he must act himself, otherwise it takes away the human element from what he's doing and he could lose himself in that. But how he reaches that conclusion is unclear/muddled.

That's why I said I like the ideas in the film, but not the execution

 

[jye4ever]

I liked the idea as a social commentary - particularly given the fact that Tony destroys them in the end, he realizes that he must act himself, otherwise it takes away the human element from what he's doing and he could lose himself in that. But how he reaches that conclusion is unclear/muddled.

That's why I said I like the ideas in the film, but not the execution

sounds like a certain foreign policy to me.

speaking of which, remember that Stealth movie.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ikwhRLRClo&sns=em[/ame]

 

[The Josh]

Wait,

I thought the Chinese theater explosion was terrorist in nature and not an accidental "overdose".

It was. They turned these guys into junkies that could blow up if they couldn't regulate their drug habit.

, ok I didn't miss anything then. It doesn't make a bit of sense. I thought it was fun though, I liked Downey and the kid. Thought it was funny that Stark was such a spoilt brag that they were almost at the same mental level sociologically.

I guess. I thought it made sense but obviously that varies.

 

[Niltusk]

Alot of people seem to miss the simple plot elements

No wonder this is such a mixed bad of reviews, you've got everything from people not understanding why the proto suit is called Mk 42 instead of Mk 8 to people not understanding the whole story of the instability of extremis, which is the entire reason they want Stark.

 

[JonWes]

Alot of people seem to miss the simple plot elements

No wonder this is such a mixed bad of reviews, you've got everything from people not understanding why the proto suit is called Mk 42 instead of Mk 8 to people not understanding the whole story of the instability of extremis, which is the entire reason they want Stark.

 

[Niltusk]

It actually sounded more harsh than I meant it to now that I re read it, but I'm glad you got what I meant, there seems to be alot people aren't getting from a single viewing, glad I saw it twice.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Ya I was about to say something about that post but now that you recognize how it come off its no longer necessary.

I only saw the movie one time, I am sure multiple viewings would clear up some things that I may have missed. The problem is I have no desire to see it again anytime soon.

 

[Niltusk]

Ya I was about to say something about that post but now that you recognize how it come off its no longer necessary.

It happens, try to say one thing, you go back and read it and it doesn't exactly sound the way you meant, but you hope people get the jist of it.

 

[Niltusk]

I only saw the movie one time, I am sure multiple viewings would clear up some things that I may have missed. The problem is I have no desire to see it again anytime soon.

Thats what Blu ray is for!

I think I'm at the point that subsequent viewings won't change my opinion. IronMan 1 still stands at the top of the heap and this comes in just above 2 for me, but the test will be once I get the BR. I've watched IM1 countless times since owning it, I haven't sat through IM2 fully even once since owning it and I honestly wonder how this will fare once its out.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

.duplicate clone post

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Thats what Blu ray is for!

I think I'm at the point that subsequent viewings won't change my opinion. IronMan 1 still stands at the top of the heap and this comes in just above 2 for me, but the test will be once I get the BR. I've watched IM1 countless times since owning it, I haven't sat through IM2 fully even once since owning it and I honestly wonder how this will fare once its out.

I'll be buying IM3 on blu ray because i am completionist when it comes to movie collecting. You guys would laugh when u saw my collection because I have every comic book movie released on blu ray regardless of how terrible the movie is. Lol Johan hex, ghost rider2, fantastic 4 1&2 are still in the plastic sealed casing, never opened. The only one I do not own is blade 3 because I hate what they did to the blade character in that one.

 

[Niltusk]

I'll be buying IM3 on blu ray because i am completionist when it comes to movie collecting. You guys would laugh when u saw my collection because I have every comic book movie released on blu ray regardless of how terrible the movie is. Lol Johan hex, ghost rider2, fantastic 4 1&2 are still in the plastic sealed casing, never opened. The only one I do not own is blade 3 because I hate what they did to the blade character in that one.

Same, I buy everything comic related. Spirit of Vengeance may still be plastic wrapped on my shelf, but its one of the best looking covers there. Talk about the "can't judge a book by its cover"

 

[Josette]

I never buy anything if I'm not going to want to watch it. That said, I own Iron Man 2 in spite of my problems with the film, and I'll buy Iron Man 3 even though the twist brought the movie down for me.

In both cases, there are scenes/things I enjoy in each film. Also, I love RDJ's Tony Stark so much and find him so entertaining that it elevates the films in spite of the plot/villain issues (the weaknesses in both sequels, IMO).

 

[JonWes]

Ya I was about to say something about that post but now that you recognize how it come off its no longer necessary.

I only saw the movie one time, I am sure multiple viewings would clear up some things that I may have missed. The problem is I have no desire to see it again anytime soon.

There's a difference between people who honestly miss something (happens to all of us), and people who have had the plot points explained (and shown how they were explained in the movie quite clearly) who STILL are talking about those same plot points as though they were never explained.

 

[JAWS]

So Iron Man isn't being Iron Man unless he's physically inside the suit?

If Tony is not in the IM suit when the Suit is doing heroic deeds, then Story wise, you have ruined the drams. We are most invested in Tony. We like to se Tony in his cool a$$ suits doing cool a$$ things. We are emotionally connected to Tony. Take him out of the suit and make it a drone or even remote controlled by tony you take away the danger factor.

You really are literally just watching a CGI effect with no humanity whatsoever on the big screen.

I love the Tony Stark character. He is interesting. But I love those Iron Man suits and what Tony can do with them when he has one on.

IM three had other issues but I thought the action scenes were incredibly boring because we were basically at the end we were watching faceless drones fight faceless bad guys. No drama or emotional impact at all for most of that end scene. Faceless remote drone on air force one looses a lot of cool points also and becomes just a F/X scene.

 

[Niltusk]

I never buy anything if I'm not going to want to watch it. That said, I own Iron Man 2 in spite of my problems with the film, and I'll buy Iron Man 3 even though the twist brought the movie down for me.

In both cases, there are scenes/things I enjoy in each film. Also, I love RDJ's Tony Stark so much and find him so entertaining that it elevates the films in spite of the plot/villain issues (the weaknesses in both sequels, IMO).

True. I think thats why I usually make it through the Senate meeting before I get up and meander off. That whole scene is classic Tony pissing off Shandling, embarrassing Rockwell, and playing it up to the media the entire time.