MAYWEATHER vs PACQUIAO

[worstgamerever]

He didnt win that fight IMO. Regardless of what any experts anywhere else. I saw that fight same as them, pac man didn't win. But then again, hes the new Chuck Norris and can do no wrong. Love PAC man, but shook my head when I heard that result. Completely support Marquez walking away...

As for him being pound for pound best, this last fight makes that sound a bit silly.

 

[darkknight]

Wow, because Pacman didnt knock him out know he loses credibility??? Because he didn't KO him he lost, or if you guys think it was a draw the champ should of lost?

 

[macapaolo]

He didnt win that fight IMO. Regardless of what any experts anywhere else. I saw that fight same as them, pac man didn't win. But then again, hes the new Chuck Norris and can do no wrong. Love PAC man, but shook my head when I heard that result. Completely support Marquez walking away...

As for him being pound for pound best, this last fight makes that sound a bit silly.

How did pac lose? Yeah this was pacs weakest performance, but he still won. And just because marquez found a way to counter his punches doesn't make him the winner.

 

[worstgamerever]

I said in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like me to abandon what I strongly feel in favour of your extremely compelling arguments. To me, he didn't win the fight. And by he, I mean PAC man. By all means choose to believe whatever you want...

 

[isculpt]

Yeah I honestly am starting think people mistook Pacman's vulnerability for downright failure. Did he look bad relative to his past fights? Yes. Did he still rock Marquez? Arguably so. Enough to convince the judges, and Ring Magazine that he deserves to be numero uno still.

 

[macapaolo]

I said in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like me to abandon what I strongly feel in favour of your extremely compelling arguments. To me, he didn't win the fight. And by he, I mean PAC man. By all means choose to believe whatever you want...

I didn't see that you said, in my opinion. Curious to know, why do you think marquez won? I'm not trying to sounds like a punk or anything, I'm just wondering

 

[worstgamerever]

Because I didn't see what the judges saw: him connecting as many punches as Marquez across the entire 12 rounds. I understand that the challenger has to impress, I've seen enough boxing matches to know that if both fighters perform equally, or even if the challenger is only marginally better, the belt stays with the champ. I don't have any confusion in my regarding the soundness of that logic.

However, in that fight, Marquez wasn't just marginally better. It was a counter-punching class act on the part of Marquez, go read what some of the boxers are saying. Go watch the match a second time, then a third. Then come have this conversation again. The compustats, by the way, are a headache and are sometimes misleading. Moreover, what Trowbridge saw to make him award his score, only he knows.

Like I said though, feel free to believe what you want. I've seen Pacquaio fight brilliantly and less so. In this last fight he was neither. In this last fight he was borderline mediocre. But that's just my opinion. What is less subjective are the look in his eyes after the fight, and Freddie roach's words. Marquez was right to walk away, I say this because I would have done the same. Besides I find it a little odd that a fighter walks away after a title fight... That's another first.

Well, Ringside can say what they want. It's all part of the hype of the sport; the true pound for pound was not in that ring. The true pound for pound won against Marquez. Decisively. And that was despite the additional vitamins from urine drinking...

Of course this is all, in my opinion.

 

[dragonsleeper]

Let me see, so Ring Magazine lacks credibility now? I guess so because they have Mayweather at number two, a guy who keeps on ducking challengers.

 

[gypsycatcha]

Because I didn't see what the judges saw: him connecting as many punches as Marquez across the entire 12 rounds. I understand that the challenger has to impress, I've seen enough boxing matches to know that if both fighters perform equally, or even if the challenger is only marginally better, the belt stays with the champ. I don't have any confusion in my regarding the soundness of that logic.

However, in that fight, Marquez wasn't just marginally better. It was a counter-punching class act on the part of Marquez, go read what some of the boxers are saying. Go watch the match a second time, then a third. Then come have this conversation again. The compustats, by the way, are a headache and are sometimes misleading. Moreover, what Trowbridge saw to make him award his score, only he knows.

Like I said though, feel free to believe what you want. I've seen Pacquaio fight brilliantly and less so. In this last fight he was neither. In this last fight he was borderline mediocre. But that's just my opinion. What is less subjective are the look in his eyes after the fight, and Freddie roach's words. Marquez was right to walk away, I say this because I would have done the same. Besides I find it a little odd that a fighter walks away after a title fight... That's another first.

Well, Ringside can say what they want. It's all part of the hype of the sport; the true pound for pound was not in that ring. The true pound for pound won against Marquez. Decisively. And that was despite the additional vitamins from urine drinking...

Of course this is all, in my opinion.

I couldn't agree more. Like i said previously, Marquez put together the trickiest game plan to beat won of the best boxers of all time.
What Manny started to do in the 11th and 12th round should have been done in the 8th and 9th. Im so used to seeing Manny exploding off his legs throwing unpredictable, unstoppable punches but it wasnt there.
More importantly for me, Marquez asked all the questions and when Marquez had made his attacks and taking that small step out or getting his left leg outside first, Manny couldnt figure out a way of dealing with it. I never saw Marquez in trouble or legs go once and for me, he dictated the fight pattern.
Thats just my opinion of what was a great fight!
Freddie Roach has said he doesnt want another fight but feels Marquez deserves one. If Freddie really believed his man won this and the scoring backed it up, there is no way he would even entertain the possibility of a 4th fight !

 

[gypsycatcha]

Yeah I honestly am starting think people mistook Pacman's vulnerability for downright failure. Did he look bad relative to his past fights? Yes. Did he still rock Marquez? Arguably so. Enough to convince the judges, and Ring Magazine that he deserves to be numero uno still.

He is still the best pound for pound simply because of what he has achieved in the last 4 years.
First man ever to win 8 titles at 8 different weights i believe??
Beaten up some very bigger boxers than him....

You can hardly call mayweather the best pound for pound when he usually retires then comes back or takes approx a year and a half break between fights.
Wouldnt really be fair although that is my only reason for thinking that.
Whatever the haters say about Mayweather, to fight over 40 pro fights at his level and never lose or be knocked down is quite staggering.

In my eyes, he is still the most talented fighter today and the best boxer of my generation.

 

[gypsycatcha]

Let me see, so Ring Magazine lacks credibility now? I guess so because they have Mayweather at number two, a guy who keeps on ducking challengers.

Baring the mess surrounding the Pacquiao fight which there are arguments from both parties, who has he ducked??

 

[gypsycatcha]

"Money" last fight, is the last that I'll pay to watch until they get this fight under contract. Didn't even bother to watch Manny last fight nor have I even seen clips of the last fight. I will do the same for "Money" if he's not in the ring with Manny come May 5, since he's so adamant about fighting on that date.

Man you should watch this fight. Manny wasnt at his best but it was an awesome fight.
2 hall of famers going at it for 12 rounds.

 

[dragonsleeper]

Baring the mess surrounding the Pacquiao fight which there are arguments from both parties, who has he ducked??

Margarito and Cotto, look it up

 

[gypsycatcha]

Margarito and Cotto, look it up

The Margarito fight was all about money in the end and floyd went on to fight de la hoya I believe who, lets face it, is a much better boxer than Margarito.
He then took the Hatton fight who at the time was undefeated

As much as I love Cotto, I very much doubt either would trouble Mayweather!

 

[azurepred]

just to show how cool Fairweather really is

[ame]https://youtu.be/DOQFcq3C828[/ame]

 

[azurepred]

for those that didn't hear, Fairweather to do 90 days in jail . Hurt the possibility of a Pacman fight?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

for those that didn't hear, Fairweather to do 90 days in jail . Hurt the possibility of a Pacman fight?

maybe he agreed just to dodge the fight longer lol

 

[LoneWolf]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16296247

Now Gayfeather can have a reason to duck the next scheduled fight of Pacquaio, as he'll be in jail. He never runs out of reasons to duck Pacman. He pleaded guilty, fellas.. And you wouldn't expect an a-hole like Gayfeather all of a sudden have conscience & plead guilty.

 

[azurepred]

from what I recall, if he decided to fight it, he was looking at a felony if I'm not mistaken and would have been in even more trouble. It's good to see an athlete that breaks the law actually serve some time.

 

[macapaolo]

from what I recall, if he decided to fight it, he was looking at a felony if I'm not mistaken and would have been in even more trouble. It's good to see an athlete that breaks the law actually serve some time.

Yeah, but I have a feeling he'll get released sooner for good behavior