Metal Gear...Big Boss??!!

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I would like a sequel to Snatcher and the Zone of the Enders series.
me too!! when he said he was done with MGS and wanted to work on something new i pictured Snatcher 2, Policenaughts 2, or a zone of the enders game. this looks really awesome and i have all the systems so i don't care which console gets exclusivity--but i would like to see it go to the 360.
 
Out of interest, how are people seeing the Raiden/Gray Fox image?

I spent a while on the countdown site and never got it.
me neither...20 minutes and counting. can someone send me a pic?? i currently have the "big boss" picture as my wallpaper and would like to merge the two together to make one.
 
me neither...20 minutes and counting. can someone send me a pic?? i currently have the "big boss" picture as my wallpaper and would like to merge the two together to make one.

It's on page 4 of this thread, it's in a magazine!!!..not on the site...


What's interesting is that people have suggested a game where you are playing as Raiden and Big Boss in two different timelines and they sort of coincide with each other. So where in chapter one you would play as Big Boss then the next time play as Raiden. Perhaps even in the same places except separated by like 30 plus years. That would be really sweet as hell.
 
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It's on page 4 of this thread, it's in a magazine!!!..not on the site...


What's interesting is that people have suggested a game where you are playing as Raiden and Big Boss in two different timelines and they sort of coincide with each other. So where in chapter one you would play as Big Boss then the next time play as Raiden. Perhaps even in the same places except separated by like 30 plus years. That would be really sweet as hell.

Deja Vu? MGS 2? I don't see it happening :lol. Kojima learned a vital lesson back in 2002: The majority of fans wanted Snake, and only Snake as the main character - they hated Raiden. In fact, many of them still hate Raiden to this day. Plus, Raiden's high-heeled stilettos have not done much to improve his popularity :D.
 
I've always liked Raiden personally. Raiden FTW

I like Raiden too, but only as a support character. Metal Gear has always been about the Snakes (Big Boss and Solid Snake), and I hope that the future games would remain that way - anything different, and you might as well take out "Metal Gear Solid" and rename the entire series.
 
You guys know the whole purpose of Raiden was to annoy a little and 'suck', so that when you again encounter Snake in MGS2 he seems even more awesome, right?
 
You guys know the whole purpose of Raiden was to annoy a little and 'suck', so that when you again encounter Snake in MGS2 he seems even more awesome, right?
If he was really supposed to suck so much, then why do they make you control his lame ass for 85% of the game? He was supposed to be a rookie, but I really don't think he was supposed to be annoying and sucky. If so, then Kojima et al. are a bunch of a$$holes.
 
If he was really supposed to suck so much, then why do they make you control his lame ass for 85% of the game?

I didn't say suck so much, just a little and I only found him fairly irritating. As I said, they make you control him for most of the game so that when you encounter Snake he is more epic than you remember.
 
So the only reason you control this stupid, cartwheeling character for the vast majority of that game is to make Snake seem more impressive when he shows up again? That is incredibly stupid, if true. Of course, Snake is a bad-ass when he shows up, but surely that didn't dictate the decision to make Raiden the main character. Do you have evidence of this?

I have assumed all along that it was just a grave miscalculation, assuming that people would think of Raiden as "hip" and "cool," whereas he couldn't have been further from that.
 
Do you have evidence of this?

Pretty sure Kojima mentions it on the extra DVD from MGS2 Substance. Will have a look, but definitely evidence behind it, just cannot remember for sure where. i.e. I have not just made it up or gathered it from a forum.

Unless my memory is faltering, but I am pretty certain.
 
So the only reason you control this stupid, cartwheeling character for the vast majority of that game is to make Snake seem more impressive when he shows up again? That is incredibly stupid, if true. Of course, Snake is a bad-ass when he shows up, but surely that didn't dictate the decision to make Raiden the main character. Do you have evidence of this?

I have assumed all along that it was just a grave miscalculation, assuming that people would think of Raiden as "hip" and "cool," whereas he couldn't have been further from that.

kojima officially said that he was trying to appeal to a different audience in metal gear solid 2, primarily teenage Japanese female gamers. that was the whole reason for raidens character.
 
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