Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
MGS should never deviate from being linear, it's what makes the series what it is.
MGS should never deviate from being linear, it's what makes the series what it is.
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GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
It's a step in the right direction, the only thing missing from all the freedom you have in MGS4 was open-world, the tech wasn't ready back then to implement open world and retain MGS traits, it is now, side missions don't have to be distracting, if they are, you can choose to ignore them, even in previous games, exploring the linear maps gives you a little reward every once in a while.
Also, huge open scenarios don't exclude close quarters ones.
The story can be handled well despite being open world, that has nothing to do with it.
MGS is much more than a voice actor and a linear scheme.
It's a step in the right direction, the only thing missing from all the freedom you have in MGS4 was open-world, the tech wasn't ready back then to implement open world and retain MGS traits, it is now, side missions don't have to be distracting, if they are, you can choose to ignore them, even in previous games, exploring the linear maps gives you a little reward every once in a while.
Also, huge open scenarios don't exclude close quarters ones.
The story can be handled well despite being open world, that has nothing to do with it.
MGS is much more than a voice actor and a linear scheme.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Now it's based completely around a A-lister.
Now it's based completely around a A-lister.
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Kiefer is decoy octopus.. Gotta be.
Kiefer is decoy octopus.. Gotta be.
GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Sutherland is now an A lister? Mhm...
Sutherland is now an A lister? Mhm...
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Regardless, idiot Kojima has based the whole premise of the game around this actor.
Regardless, idiot Kojima has based the whole premise of the game around this actor.
GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
So far judging from the trailer, he's giving a good refreshing voice to the character, it's welcome.
I know.
So far judging from the trailer, he's giving a good refreshing voice to the character, it's welcome.
I know.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Only to those who are blinded by Kojima. There was internet outrage for weeks when it was revealed, it's about as refreshing as a watery Flu dump.
Only to those who are blinded by Kojima. There was internet outrage for weeks when it was revealed, it's about as refreshing as a watery Flu dump.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I was here during the so called "internet outrage", it was polarizing but it wasn't the general opinion.
I'm not blinded by Kojima, that's a lame excuse to try to detract from my opinion, I genuinely like the direction the franchise is taking, and no, I'm no CoDdudebro.
Also, a flu dump is a perfect way to describe Snake's voice in MGS4 and PW, just like Batman in TDKR, just, ugh.
I was here during the so called "internet outrage", it was polarizing but it wasn't the general opinion.
I'm not blinded by Kojima, that's a lame excuse to try to detract from my opinion, I genuinely like the direction the franchise is taking, and no, I'm no CoDdudebro.
Also, a flu dump is a perfect way to describe Snake's voice in MGS4 and PW, just like Batman in TDKR, just, ugh.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I thought you LOVED MGS4? You're like one of a couple people in on this board that actually liked it
The series has lost any respect from me as a fan for years now. I'm just trotting along with it, just biding time until he remakes MG1 and MG2. Until then, I have to tolerate these mediocre stories he keeps churning out.
I thought you LOVED MGS4? You're like one of a couple people in on this board that actually liked it
The series has lost any respect from me as a fan for years now. I'm just trotting along with it, just biding time until he remakes MG1 and MG2. Until then, I have to tolerate these mediocre stories he keeps churning out.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Yes I liked it, very much, I pretty much like the entire franchise, including PW, but I've also said that story-wise it's not the best nor my favorite, it's not bad, but obviously not the best in the franchise, and the VA is another one of my criticisms as well as it is in PW which was just gah! annoying for me at the end, I found myself clearing my own throat while listening Snake talk on several occasions
Well Kojima and MGS haven't lost my respect as a storyteller or artist, but as a person after how he dealt with the Hayter case, he's very much not cool.
I can tell that they have a big shot with the story in MGSV as long as they don't entangle it as in MGS4.
I thought you LOVED MGS4? You're like one of a couple people in on this board that actually liked it
The series has lost any respect from me as a fan for years now. I'm just trotting along with it, just biding time until he remakes MG1 and MG2. Until then, I have to tolerate these mediocre stories he keeps churning out.
Yes I liked it, very much, I pretty much like the entire franchise, including PW, but I've also said that story-wise it's not the best nor my favorite, it's not bad, but obviously not the best in the franchise, and the VA is another one of my criticisms as well as it is in PW which was just gah! annoying for me at the end, I found myself clearing my own throat while listening Snake talk on several occasions
Well Kojima and MGS haven't lost my respect as a storyteller or artist, but as a person after how he dealt with the Hayter case, he's very much not cool.
I can tell that they have a big shot with the story in MGSV as long as they don't entangle it as in MGS4.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
MGSV is going to wipe clean a lot of the story from MG1-MGS4. Turning Snake into the bad guy might be the worst handling of a character I've ever seen in gaming history. It's probably worse than the fairy Raiden we got in MGS2.
MGSV is going to wipe clean a lot of the story from MG1-MGS4. Turning Snake into the bad guy might be the worst handling of a character I've ever seen in gaming history. It's probably worse than the fairy Raiden we got in MGS2.
GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I don't even see that happening, by a long shot.
I don't even see that happening, by a long shot.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
If he can bring a dead character back after 20 years, it's entirely possible.
If he can bring a dead character back after 20 years, it's entirely possible.
GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
You're right, might as well expect a unicorn with tentacles as a final boss, it's possible.
If anything, all indicates that BB will finish his journey to villainy, he may be more of a tragic figure now more than in the beginning when he was the unquestionable bad guy, but I see no sign of Snake becoming the bad guy here, sorry.
You're right, might as well expect a unicorn with tentacles as a final boss, it's possible.
If anything, all indicates that BB will finish his journey to villainy, he may be more of a tragic figure now more than in the beginning when he was the unquestionable bad guy, but I see no sign of Snake becoming the bad guy here, sorry.
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GasparZizou
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I think you mean "bad ***"
I think you mean "bad ***"
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
No I mean bad guy.
He was made the puppet in all those games. Stopping the threat to the Patriots as a unknowing hired killer. Big Boss wanted Zero's head in MG1 and MG2. Liquid wanted the Patriots secretly in MGS1, although I wouldn't necessarily say that Snake was the bad guy in MGS1 since the Patriots weren't really involved in it. MGS2 doesn't really factor in since Snake was kind of off the grid at that point and the Patriots really didn't have much hold of him at all. MGS4 was the clearest case in the series that Snake was this puppet that they can tap into at anytime to remove threats to their infrastructure.
The whole, secret good and secret bad guy thing was pretty stale by MGS4. I liked it in MGS3 with the Boss being a secret good as well as Ocelot. But then you find out Snake was nothing but a thorn in the side of the anti-Patriots movement, and that Ocelot played the Boss's part by being the sleeper agent the whole time. I thought that was beyond cheesy. And again, another reused plot line.
Ughh my head hurts.
No I mean bad guy.
He was made the puppet in all those games. Stopping the threat to the Patriots as a unknowing hired killer. Big Boss wanted Zero's head in MG1 and MG2. Liquid wanted the Patriots secretly in MGS1, although I wouldn't necessarily say that Snake was the bad guy in MGS1 since the Patriots weren't really involved in it. MGS2 doesn't really factor in since Snake was kind of off the grid at that point and the Patriots really didn't have much hold of him at all. MGS4 was the clearest case in the series that Snake was this puppet that they can tap into at anytime to remove threats to their infrastructure.
The whole, secret good and secret bad guy thing was pretty stale by MGS4. I liked it in MGS3 with the Boss being a secret good as well as Ocelot. But then you find out Snake was nothing but a thorn in the side of the anti-Patriots movement, and that Ocelot played the Boss's part by being the sleeper agent the whole time. I thought that was beyond cheesy. And again, another reused plot line.
Ughh my head hurts.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Then, by accepting your premise, Snake has been a puppet and unknowingly a bad guy all along, do counting MGS1 and 2, then MGSV wouldn't make Snake the bad guy.
Still, don't see Snake as the bad guy, sorry.
Then, by accepting your premise, Snake has been a puppet and unknowingly a bad guy all along, do counting MGS1 and 2, then MGSV wouldn't make Snake the bad guy.
Still, don't see Snake as the bad guy, sorry.
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