Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Jameson Rook]

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Is star power really a draw in games? I've never seen any evidence in this. Infact the only thing I've only ever seen to make a difference is fun factor

Michael Jackson's Moonwalker?

Shaq Fu?

Beyond Two Souls?

 

[Solidus]

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Wannabe Tom Clancy, just like Agnes said.

And he sucks at it. Well... he has made some good story lines, but has practically ran out of idea to the point where he has to go "George Lucas" and start retconing things.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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And he sucks at it. Well... he has made some good story lines, but has practically ran out of idea to the point where he has to go "George Lucas" and start retconing things.

Once he got out of the Nuclear Proliferation plot in MGS, that's when it went down hill.

 

[Solidus]

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Michael Jackson's Moonwalker?

Shaq Fu?

Beyond Two Souls?

******* Shaq Fu . I think I still have my old copy of it somewhere.

 

[krec9]

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Also...

From David Hayter: "I remain Snake in the same way Connery remains Bond."

https://gamingbolt.com/mgs5-hayter-says-i-remain-snake-in-same-way-connery-remains-bond

thats awesome see and true.

 

[Solidus]

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Once he got out of the Nuclear Proliferation plot in MGS, that's when it went down hill.

Exactly! Now it's all a confusing storyline about state-run PMCs, which makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Exactly! Now it's all a confusing storyline about state-run PMCs, which makes no sense whatsoever.

The jump from the Big Shell to PMCs makes no sense whatsoever. Poor excuse to reuse Outer Heaven.

 

[Solidus]

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The jump from the Big Shell to PMCs makes no sense whatsoever.

Yeah, why the hell did The Patriots even create the War Economy? It was never explained well.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Yeah, why the hell did The Patriots even create the War Economy? It was never explained well.

Plus 7 years of waiting on how they would explain Arsenal Gear's crash into Manhattan... and it was never explained. Not even a blanket Nanomachines statement either

 

[Solidus]

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Plus 7 years of waiting on how they would explain Arsenal Gear's crash into Manhattan... and it was never explained. Not even a blanket Nanomachines statement either

Plus, it's creepy how at the end of MGS 2, all of the New Yorkers were just going about their business after that freakin' monster ship literally destroyed a part of the city . I can understand the Japanese being desensitized to something like that because Godzilla's always breaking their shi*. But us Americans? Heellll no .

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Plus, it's creepy how at the end of MGS 2, all of the New Yorkers were just going about their business after that freakin' monster ship literally destroyed a part of the city . I can understand the Japanese being desensitized to something like that because Godzilla's always breaking their shi*. But Americas? Heellll no .

9/11 was pandemonium, and an event of a ship the size of a small town barreling through Battery Park would be on a whole other level. Obviously he doesn't understand how nutty Americans are

 

[Jameson Rook]

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I was always under the presumption that the New Yorkers were part of what Raiden wanted to see. He was already shaken up by the surrounding events so it's easy to picture that at that point he just wanted to go home.

That's why I really disliked some parts of MGS4 as it retcons MGS2 to be taken literally, instead of looking at MGS2 as a narrative comprised of subtexts.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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I was always under the presumption that the New Yorkers were part of what Raiden wanted to see. He was already shaken up by the surrounding events so it's easy to picture that at that point he just wanted to go home.

That's why I really disliked some parts of MGS4 as it retcons MGS2 to be taken literally, instead of looking at MGS2 as a narrative comprised of subtexts.

Couldn't agree more Ryan. That's one of the things I really enjoyed about MGS2, how there was many subtle story aspects that were either a recreation of Shadow Moses, the Patriots sense of control and breaking the 4th wall. It really watered down the grand story of the Patriots, made them seem too simple in MGS4. Making them AIs completely ripped the guts out of the chills I would get when Johnson first tells Raiden about them.

 

[Solidus]

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I was always under the presumption that the New Yorkers were part of what Raiden wanted to see. He was already shaken up by the surrounding events so it's easy to picture that at that point he just wanted to go home.

That's why I really disliked some parts of MGS4 as it retcons MGS2 to be taken literally, instead of looking at MGS2 as a narrative comprised of subtexts.

I think that makes it even worse, because Manhattan should never look like a ghost town! .

 

[Solidus]

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Couldn't agree more Ryan. That's one of the things I really enjoyed about MGS2, how there was many subtle story aspects that were either a recreation of Shadow Moses, the Patriots sense of control and breaking the 4th wall. It really watered down the grand story of the Patriots, made them seem too simple in MGS4. Making them AIs completely ripped the guts out of the chills I would get when Johnson first tells Raiden about them.

The Patriots should not have been explained any further than they were in MGS 2. It should have been left up to the audience to contemplate for themselves. MGS 4 just destroyed all of the intrigue and mystery that surrounded their existence.

Explaining them as AI satellites was just an awful cop out. Because in the event of a solar storm, The Patriot satellites that micromanage the world, might suddenly shut down . Which is often the case, of what happens to satellites.

 

[FSLAR]

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Michael Jackson's Moonwalker?

Shaq Fu?

Beyond Two Souls?

I believe this applies to some other games as well.

I agree with overestimating Kiefer's appeal though, not really that known a guy.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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I believe this applies to some other games as well.

I agree with overestimating Kiefer's appeal though, not really that known a guy.

Outside of 24, he plays mostly creeps. His father has 100x the talent of him.

 

[krec9]

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Thanks for listing why MGS 2 sucks guys

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Thanks for listing why MGS 2 sucks guys

I'll admit it isn't perfect.

 

[RIDDICK]

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