Voorhees27
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No kidding! Although I really like the Pens and Crosby his ass is pampered BIG TIME!!!
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No kidding! Although I really like the Pens and Crosby his ass is pampered BIG TIME!!!
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Yeah, i know you think the NHL "needs" Syndy in the finals, but I don't agree. The NHL is and always will ne a "nitch" sport that's popular enough to carry itself, but it's never going to be the NFL.
I don't want a bunch of Syndy jock ridding fans to show up because they Pens make the finals. Real hockey fans will always be here. Bandwagon fans can piss off.
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Bandwagon fans may keep the league from contracting teams
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Not really. If a team like Nashville is in trouble then a few hundred new Syndy fans in Nashville showing up to see him play maybe once a year ( if they redo the scheduling so the East and West teams actually play each other every year again ) isn't going to save that team.
The NHL doesn't need to "jock ride" Crosby or Ovechkin. It's needs to stop changing it's rules every year. It needs to stop GIMICKS like the stupid shoot out, points for losing in OT, new jersey designs ( not team logo's, but the stupid form fitting jerseys ), glow pucks and they need to hire CONCISTANT officials.
The game speaks for itself if Bettman would stop screwing it up.
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The strike/lock-out lost a lot of fans. I've only been to one game since then (and that was with you).
Probably be a little different if my team didn't suck ass
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The strike/lock-out lost a lot of fans. I've only been to one game since then (and that was with you).
Probably be a little different if my team didn't suck ass
Actually attendance is now back to where it was ( or even better ) than before the strike. Betman would liek to think it's because of his gay rule changes, but I think it's more because many fans missed the game and came back.
I agree players like Crosby and Ovechkin should be marketed to a degree, but don't market your entire league around 1 or 2 faces. Living in this area you're aware of how bad the Bullets were for years and years. They marketed OTHER tams stars to sell tickets. "Come see Jordan, Bird, Magic". No one gave a ^^^^ about the Bullets because they were so bad.
One thing I am glad the NHL did along with the salary cap was the salary floor so you have to spend at least so much.
And the Hawks don't suck anymore. They almost made the playoffs and have two of the best young stars in the game.
Wow...
Maybe you should check the stats of Fleury before you say mediocre at best. I don't just mean in the playoffs, but since he came back from his ankle injury. Also, if you are putting Biron in the same league as Turco you should be the joint down or pass it to someone else. Detroit already had a goalie pulled. Yes, they swept Col who barely had any of their stars on the ice or close to 100%. You can gauge that series as much as the Pens vs. Ott series. Detroit if I remember had their hands full with Nashville. Dallas scares me more than Detroit does. Time will tell, but I'm seeing a repeat of the 91 cup finals pens - stars..
Eli26
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Just so you know I have been a Pens fan since I was a wee tot some 20 years ago!
That's why I don't have a Crosby or Malkin jersey in my collection, but a Lemieux and Francis. Heck, my Francis jersey was given to me on the Christmas of 1992! hehe
I am a bit annoyed that Pens fans were far and few between, especially from the 2001-02 season right through to the recent lock out. Last Moose game I went to I saw almost as many Penguins shirts and jerseys as I did Moose ones. Okay, not close... we have a lot of die-hard Moose fans, but I must have seen atleast a dozen or so people sporting Crosby jerseys or Pens t-shirts... definitely was the dominate NHL team of choice that night.
Those are your bandwagoners... I wore my jerseys back in the non playoff years and pre-Crosby days... Team pride baby! I was attacked by fans for supporting such a lackluster franchise. I would always hear, guess Lemieux is tired and broken. Or, the Pens are moving to Winnipeg so be happy to see your guys in person. lol
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Wow...
Maybe you should check the stats of Fleury before you say mediocre at best. I don't just mean in the playoffs, but since he came back from his ankle injury. Also, if you are putting Biron in the same league as Turco you should be the joint down or pass it to someone else. Detroit already had a goalie pulled. Yes, they swept Col who barely had any of their stars on the ice or close to 100%. You can gauge that series as much as the Pens vs. Ott series. Detroit if I remember had their hands full with Nashville. Dallas scares me more than Detroit does. Time will tell, but I'm seeing a repeat of the 91 cup finals pens - stars..
Pure ownage praxitas!
Eli26
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The only thing I worry about concerning the Pittsburgh Penguins and their competition, the Philadelphia Flyers is depth and toughness. Yes my Penguins have arguably two of the best forwards in the league. Definitely in the center position. Then they have another elite talent in late season pick-up Marian Hossa, but having said that, the Pens don't have the toughness that the Flyers exude. Outside of your Laraques, Gills, and Roberts, and perhaps to a certain extent even your Malones, that Flyers team has plenty more muscle.
I would also give the Flyers the upper hand in terms of scoring depth. When 100 percent healthy they are led by dominate two-way pivot Mike Richards, Simon Gagne, Jeff Carter, Daniel Briere, Mike Knuble, R.J. Umberger, Scott Hartnell, Joffrey Lupul, Scotty Upshall, and Steve Downie. Trust me, Downie is an underrated and unknown scorer to the general public right now, but when this kid logs good minutes one day he'll tear it up. He averaged over 2 points-per-game in the OHL, and close to a PPG average in the AHL before making his way up to the bigs.
Their defence is solid. So our guys are great at getting up in the rush, ala your Gonchars, Whitneys, and Letangs, but what scares me is that those guys aren't exactly great in their own end. Rob Scuderi has done well, and Brooks Orpik is a guy I like. Hal Gill has even surprized. Goaltending is a wash. Martin Biron while as good as he's been this season, is clearly not the dominating goalie when compared to Marc-Andre Fleury. Remember, MA has the best numbers of any goalie in the NHL in the past 25 games, regular season and playoffs combined. He has been solid, and while I am not completely won over yet, he has been holding the forte diligently and successfully. Minus that third period in Game 5 against the Rangers.
In order for my Pens team to beat this Flyers squad, they can't shy down or back off when Philly pushes them. They'll try and dominate them with their physical game. The Pens will have to play every bit as tough. Guys like Crosby, Malkin, and Hossa will have to get a bit dirty... Definitely those three will have to elevate their A game for this series match up as it will be the toughest one they'll be in yet.
On a final note I expect to see some of the smaller depth guys on Pittsburgh like your Staals, Kennedys, Dupuis', and Talbots become unsung hereos. Jordan Staal, you were such a treat as a special teams player last season with an 06/07 NHL best 7 short handed goals. We need to see you light the lamp up on the penalty kill again!
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Eli26
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WELL SAID! Best post ever made on these forums. What?! I am a hockey fan and I agree with everything said in this post.. Heck, I have made all of those complaints. And what's with the cluttered busy look of the new jerseys? Numbers on the front of jerseys? This isn't basketball, or football. This is hockey dammit!
I think sometimes the NHL underestimates its casual American hockey fan in terms of intelligence. Lets face it, most of those experiments the NHL tries out is geared solely for the American fan in mind. Take it however you want Kit, but it's the truth.
Pure ownage praxitas!
Eli --- as a pens fan, if they were to reach the cup finals would you sell your hulk PF to go to a game??
Eli26
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That's an interesting offer.. so tempted. hehe
Eli26
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I'm not offering thats probably what "I" would have to do to attend
I dunno know man.. that's a life experience... and a great one. btw Prax I am also a game worn jersey collector. Get into the game... it's awesome!
Voorhees27
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Wow...
Maybe you should check the stats of Fleury before you say mediocre at best. I don't just mean in the playoffs, but since he came back from his ankle injury. Also, if you are putting Biron in the same league as Turco you should be the joint down or pass it to someone else. Detroit already had a goalie pulled. Yes, they swept Col who barely had any of their stars on the ice or close to 100%. You can gauge that series as much as the Pens vs. Ott series. Detroit if I remember had their hands full with Nashville. Dallas scares me more than Detroit does. Time will tell, but I'm seeing a repeat of the 91 cup finals pens - stars..
So now i'm a crack head because I voiced an opinion? Are you too a Crosby ball carwasher? Stats? Right
so I guess statistically Detroit should have won the cup in 1996? Patrick Roy should own a cup for every year played in his career? I guess according to your stats the Edmonton Oilers in 2006 almost winning the cup as an 8th seeded team makes sense?
P.S. I love the Pens and really do want them to win the cup.
Regular season stats mean nothing in playoffs. I think based on the way Turco & Biron have played I would take those teams to be in the finals. A hot goalie is the biggest weapon a team can have in the playoffs.
But as others have said as long as Red Winds don't win I am good.
But as others have said as long as Red Winds don't win I am good.
Eli26
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Very true. The playoffs are a whole new season. Slates are wiped clean.
Thus why Johan Franzen leads the NHL in goals in these playoffs (11 in 10 games) vs. scoring 27 goals in 72 games, which is good for 42nd overall during the 07/08 regular season.
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my two greatest hockey life experiences were the avalanche run in the 95-96 season. i attended every playoff game in colorado including the detroit series and game 4 in florida where ewe krupp scored the only goal in a 1-0 colorado win in triple OT. roy made 63 saves.
the other was attending the 03-04 tampa playoff run including the finals game 7 when the lightning won their only cup beating calgary 2-1, only the 13th time a stanley cup final went to 7 games.
it is something every hockey fan should experience, if you get the chance.
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