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Do you like the WIPs of SSC RWOS teh Josh?
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Do you like the WIPs of SSC RWOS teh Josh?
Exactly.
Don't get me wrong ... I LOVE the sense of energy and dynamic movement you get from a PF like the Berzerker Uruk-Hai ... it's one of my absolute favorites. But, for a character like Sauron, I much prefer something like Jerry's take. I really dig the quiet power and menace of Sauron's stillness. I find that a lot creepier!
Sure, it's cool when he grabs his mace and mixes it up in battle, but that's not really what Sauron's all about. He's an immensely powerful being who doesn't necessarily depend on his physicality. His power is more of a malevolent, toxic energy that radiates from him ... his hand-to-hand combat skills are cool, but I don't think they're really that important to who he is.
(If he gets that ring back, it's not like he's going to go door-to-door throughout Middle Earth smashing everybody with a mace!
)My point, I guess, is that I think ... as an interpretation of what the character is all about ... I think Jerry and Sideshow are right on the money!
But again, that's just one guy's opinion! Your mileage will certainly vary!
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Very true, I want the sculpt to emanate his power, give him a menacing sense of foreboding. Like these:
What we've seen so far looks awesome. Its a very small image of a horses head.
Exactly.
Don't get me wrong ... I LOVE the sense of energy and dynamic movement you get from a PF like the Berzerker Uruk-Hai ... it's one of my absolute favorites. But, for a character like Sauron, I much prefer something like Jerry's take. I really dig the quiet power and menace of Sauron's stillness. I find that a lot creepier!
Sure, it's cool when he grabs his mace and mixes it up in battle, but that's not really what Sauron's all about. He's an immensely powerful being who doesn't necessarily depend on his physicality. His power is more of a malevolent, toxic energy that radiates from him ... his hand-to-hand combat skills are cool, but I don't think they're really that important to who he is.
(If he gets that ring back, it's not like he's going to go door-to-door throughout Middle Earth smashing everybody with a mace!
My point, I guess, is that I think ... as an interpretation of what the character is all about ... I think Jerry and Sideshow are right on the money!
But again, that's just one guy's opinion! Your mileage will certainly vary!
I get what you're saying. I love high energy and dynamic pieces as well. Like you though there are some characters where a more subdued pose works equally as well.
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You missed this one?
That is Weta's 1:1 scale fibreglass convention display RWOS. It is not SS's WIP RWOS PF.
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You missed this one?
Fuzz,
That is not the Work in Progress for the Ringwraith on Steed Premium Format. That is an older statue that was made by Sideshow/Weta to be used as a promotion at conventions. It is a 1:1 scale piece, and I think people were suggesting that the proposed RWOS premium format may share a similar pose, but that picture is not the RWOS premium format. The only shot thus far has been the tiny thumbnail of the horse head. Sorry for any confusion.
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Great minds think alike, eh Nazgul King and Woodsy?
Where is Morgul Vale, IL??? Next time I am out that way, I'll get you a beer!
With this and Sauron possibly being close together, it has me considering how much of a completist I might be for both the Premium Format and Maquette lines. There is only so much room in our place, and with two huge figures, and anywhere between 7-8 maquettes by the end of next year, there may be no room at the inn!
Where is Morgul Vale, IL??? Next time I am out that way, I'll get you a beer!
With this and Sauron possibly being close together, it has me considering how much of a completist I might be for both the Premium Format and Maquette lines. There is only so much room in our place, and with two huge figures, and anywhere between 7-8 maquettes by the end of next year, there may be no room at the inn!
Great minds think alike, eh Nazgul King and Woodsy?
Where is Morgul Vale, IL??? Next time I am out that way, I'll get you a beer!
With this and Sauron possibly being close together, it has me considering how much of a completist I might be for both the Premium Format and Maquette lines. There is only so much room in our place, and with two huge figures, and anywhere between 7-8 maquettes by the end of next year, there may be no room at the inn!
Yeah, deleted my post after I saw you guys beat me to it. (no sense beating that horse any deader
)Morgul Vale, IL is actually very close to Rockford. (grew up in Niles though) Unfortunately I work all the way by O'hare so I get to deal with about 40 miles of construction on 90 every day.
A cold beer is definetely in my future. The countdown to the weekend started as soon as I got here Monday morning.
You missed this one?
I saw but as others said thats just a 1:1 piece not a WIP of the PF.
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Ah, thought someone said it was and looked similar to the SSW one. That's a pity, that looks awesome.
Here's a not so great photo I took of the one I had a long time ago (with my old not so good camera).
Like I said this piece just has a power and darkness to it without being ultra dynamic.
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Here's a not so great photo I took of the one I had a long time ago (with my old not so good camera).
Like I said this piece just has a power and darkness to it without being ultra dynamic.
Exactly. There is nothing dynamic or action-packed in that pose, or that of the SSW Sauron statue yet none of the dramatic elements of these characters is lacking whatsoever. Certain characters exude a dramatic essence no matter how subtlely they are portrayed....the Ringwraith and Sauron are two of them IMO.
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I gotta be honest, that 1:1 pose still looks better to me.
Exactly. There is nothing dynamic or action-packed in that pose, or that of the SSW Sauron statue yet none of the dramatic elements of these characters is lacking whatsoever. Certain characters exude a dramatic essence no matter how subtlety they are portrayed....the Ringwraith and Sauron are two of them IMO.
Yup, some characters really do not need something dynamic or dramatic in the poses. You can get that across with certain angles of the body movement if they're subtle.
Thats cool. You're more into in your face dramatic poses. Just understand that some characters and pieces don't need that to get across their power. Especially within LOTR. The pose is one of the reasons this piece has been well loved for a decade.
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That's why I never get into the "which pose is more iconic" discussions as there really is no right or wrong answer. I certainly prefer some character poses over other's, but the final decision always comes down to individual preference.....and sometimes there really doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason involved at all.....we just like what we like.
I look at my Uruk Hai Berserker and think it is an absolutely perfect pose for an Uruk Hai. Then I look at Lurtz and think that's the perfect pose for him....two Uruk Hai albeit different in some respects, two completely different poses, and yet both work perfectly IMO.
I gotta be honest, that 1:1 pose still looks better to me.
There is no doubt I like the 1:1 version WAY better. I would be thrilled if the SS RWOS was similar to the 1:1.
Anyone know if there is a chance for that? Since the 1:1 wasn't a retail piece maybe there wouldn't be any licensing issues in making one similar / based on it? Depending on the angle the photo was taken, the little production peek photo does look quite similar to the 1:1 head.
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That's why I never get into the "which pose is more iconic" discussions as there really is no right or wrong answer. I certainly prefer some character poses over other's, but the final decision always comes down to individual preference.....and sometimes there really doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason involved at all.....we just like what we like.
I look at my Uruk Hai Berserker and think it is an absolutely perfect pose for an Uruk Hai. Then I look at Lurtz and think that's the perfect pose for him....two Uruk Hai albeit different in some respects, two completely different poses, and yet both work perfectly IMO.
How about when you look at the Morgul Lord PF, is that pose perfect for him to you?
That's why I never get into the "which pose is more iconic" discussions as there really is no right or wrong answer. I certainly prefer some character poses over other's, but the final decision always comes down to individual preference.....and sometimes there really doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason involved at all.....we just like what we like.
I look at my Uruk Hai Berserker and think it is an absolutely perfect pose for an Uruk Hai. Then I look at Lurtz and think that's the perfect pose for him....two Uruk Hai albeit different in some respects, two completely different poses, and yet both work perfectly IMO.
Right personal preference plays a big part. You may get 99 people that think a certain pose fits the subject matter perfectly but 1 person thinks it needs to be more dynamic.
Fuzz I like the ML pose. After seeing it at Comic-Con last year I was really quite impressed with it. The level of movement you see and feel coming from the piece is quite nice.
