The Avengers: The Motion Picture Discussion Thread- Open SPOILERS -enter at own risk!

[Raymond F.]

Hell I'd go to Applebee's too, what I'm saying is and this is more directed towards star trek than avengers, is that there is no strike against something for being well crafted amd directed towards a wide audience,

Afterall something like the avengers is pure comic book fluff. All the characters except maybe iron man and a little bit, the hulk are incredibly one dimentional. Space portals and Norse gods.. I mean you can't expect too much.

But whendons star trek was the first and only star trek without any intelligence interweaved into it and it felt flat to me, absent. It was a shame to take away the intelligence from Star Trek and dumb it down to the masses. It felt, non authentic somehow.

Avengers I can live with.

It's just a little bit that more rewarding when something can be exciting but yet also intelligent at the same time.

 

[Raymond F.]

I'm sorry, I realize this is a message board and not an English class, but your post doesn't make alot of sense. You start by saying how this is so similar to Whedon's other works, but then use a JJ Abrams flick to compare it against?

OR is your point is that he "borrowed" someone elses winning formula, rather than using his own, then he basically did come up with a new "trick" for him. Either way:

F+

You're right the parallel to abrams interpretation on star trek was not properly linked to whendons avengers. I just see all of whendons stuff following the same formula and it's the same formula Abrams used on star trek.

I saw star trek all over through the avengers and it just brought up bitter feelings.

 

[Ziggie]

According to box office mojo TA has finally cracked a billion dollars.

Yep, It has passed a Billion today, so happy and this film deserves it unlike others.

Titanic is going down again.

 

[Raymond F.]

Yep, It has passed a Billion today, so happy and this film deserves it unlike others.

I'd rather this than the titanic take no one spot, neither are that amazing but at least let's have superheroes in there over the lamest film in the world

 

[Niltusk]

You're right the parallel to abrams interpretation on star trek was not properly linked to whendons avengers. I just see all of whendons stuff following the same formula and it's the same formula Abrams used on star trek.

I saw star trek all over through the avengers and it just brought up bitter feelings.

Guess I'll have to take your word for it, I don't think I've seen anything else by Whedon except Alien 3, which obviously isn't anything to brag about.

 

[greygoose]

I don't think this scene will ever get old.

Ruffalo looks like he's about to burst into laughs towards the end of that scene.

Over $1 Billion now worldwide too!

 

[RED5150]

Funny to compare this to the new Star Trek. I remember reading an internet blog where they compared Abrams Star Trek to Star Wars or as George has renamed it Star Wars IV: A New Hope. And I think most people know he took the idea for Star Wars from many other movies. I guess a good movie is a good movie no matter who you got your ideas from. Avengers, like Star Wars and the new Star Trek are great, fun movies and I for one will see all of them many times over and be one of the first for the Blu-ray and the next movie. Long live Colson.

 

[Bullseye]

Avengers breaks the billion mark.

 

[The Ween]

I feel the movie would have been damaged by any more Hallmark crap. That is not what I go to see "The Avengers" for and I have zero need for it in the film. Of course, my current feelings on the matter could be stemming from the fact that my BBQ ribs were destroyed in a grill-inferno, yesterday. Who knows?

You and Jen need to BBQ together.

 

[IrishJedi]

I'm happy for the film, but this still burns my ass:

$0.00 to the Kirby Estate.

You know, the guy who actually created 90% of the characters in the movie.

F you, Disney/Marvel. Seriously.

 

[The Ween]

Why don't you just act like my wife and be in denial. Since they didn't have a funeral for him, she thinks he recouped off screen and will be back in the next franchise movie. After two viewings she still refuses to admit hes dead.

He'll have an IronMan "heart"

 

[The Ween]

I'm happy for the film, but this still burns my ass:

$0.00 to the Kirby Estate.

You know, the guy who actually created 90% of the characters in the movie.

F you, Disney/Marvel. Seriously.

I don't know much about comics and the background drama, but did Kirby ever sue?

 

[RyanSD]

I don't know much about comics and the background drama, but did Kirby ever sue?

He passed before all these creators got sue happy and work-for-hire contracts no longer held up in court.

 

[Sachiel]

Guess I'll have to take your word for it, I don't think I've seen anything else by Whedon except Alien 3, which obviously isn't anything to brag about.

He only was a writer on Alien: Resurrection.

 

[thenammagazine]

Okay, so on my 6th viewing two things stuck out. When Fury's talking to Coulson, the sun is glinting off of a stray nose hair. And the scene with Pepper in the plane shows she must've not shaved her legs before that scene. I think it's time to tap and wait for the BR (and hope they edit those things out).

 

[karamazov80]

One thing that bugs me a slight bit about this film, though I doubt many others would really care, is the handling of Hawkeye. And the reason is that they really focused on the Ultimates Hawkeye as inspiration, whereas I'm a classic Marvel fan, and in that universe (at least back when I read comics--they might have made him more Ultimates-like in recent years) he had a very different personality, and wasn't a government assassin at all. In this film, he's essentially just a modern soldier working for this universe's equivalent of a CIA black ops outfit. In the comics, he was witty and a bit of a loose canon until he had to take the responsibilities of leading the West Coast Avengers.

Speaking of Evans, I was rewatching the FF movies (yes, I know, I shouldn't, lol) and was wondering, besides him and Stevenson, has anyone else represented two Marvel characters on screen? Has anyone represented three Marvel characters? Obscure trivia because with some Marvel stuff going back quite a ways I thought there might be some that I never caught. I mean actual appearing actors, not voice actors who do the cartoon versions.

Stevenson and Evans are the only two I'm familiar with. And of course,there is Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool and GL, but one is Marvel and the other DC. Unless you consider the cameos by Lee or Ferrigno in Hulk. I could imagine seeing, say, Sam Elliott in some other role down the line, though.

About the $1 billion figure, comparing it to Titanic isn't really appropriate, because you need to account for inflation.

Okay, so on my 6th viewing two things stuck out. When Fury's talking to Coulson, the sun is glinting off of a stray nose hair. And the scene with Pepper in the plane shows she must've not shaved her legs before that scene. I think it's time to tap and wait for the BR (and hope they edit those things out).

LOL

 

[thenammagazine]

One thing that bugs me a slight bit about this film, though I doubt many others would really care, is the handling of Hawkeye. And the reason is that they really focused on the Ultimates Hawkeye as inspiration, whereas I'm a classic Marvel fan, and in that universe (at least back when I read comics--they might have made him more Ultimates-like in recent years) he had a very different personality, and wasn't a government assassin at all. In this film, he's essentially just a modern soldier working for this universe's equivalent of a CIA black ops outfit. In the comics, he was witty and a bit of a loose canon until he had to take the responsibilities of leading the West Coast Avengers.

Uh..... they're all based off the Ultimates versions, bud.

 

[Khev]

All right I'm probably behind the times on a number of things that have already been covered in this thread.

1. Did some prequel comic or something explain how Thor is suddenly able to freely visit Earth?

2. There was word of an extra scene being shot after the premier. Was it the

Spoiler

Thanos

epilogue?

 

[Khev]

Uh..... they're all based off the Ultimates versions, bud.

Aside from the wingless cowl Cap couldn't have been more farther removed from his lame-ass Ultimates incarnation.

 

[Khev]

Stevenson and Evans are the only two I'm familiar with. And of course,there is Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool and GL, but one is Marvel and the other DC. Unless you consider the cameos by Lee or Ferrigno in Hulk. I could imagine seeing, say, Sam Elliott in some other role down the line, though.

Actually Sam did play two Marvel characters, in Ang Lee's Hulk and then again in the first Ghost Rider.