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It just shows that there are no saints in the world. We've all mocked people, lied, was lazy ect. All of us.

If eye for an eye was true law, the world would be blind.
 
And Hillary sure did put a lot of her eggs in the celeb basket.

But i think the streep speech was more about questioning who we are as a society. She raised one specific incident involving the allegation of trump mocking a disabled reporter. I took her comments as being that the act is more likely to come from a 10th grader and not becoming of someone seeking the presidency. As a result, the fact that someone who said this (and many other things) and STILL got elected makes her question our national identity and character. Thats how i took it.

After the wiki leaks and after cheating bernie of the election it would have been just as bad for us as a society if she won.

Everyone says trump winning is whats wrong with society. But the fact that those two were our only choices is really what is wrong... the fact that people like lady gaga and meryl and iron man turned a blind eye to hillary's stuff is what the real problem was
 
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I think you're talking about common political scandal. Not excusing it but it was stuff that we were used to as a society. but i think it's generally accepted that trump's stuff was off the page. These were things we had never seen before in any political candidate and in a volume we had never seen before. The media couldnt keep up because in another week there would be something new. But i think streep was saying she wonders who we are to still elect this person.
 
I think you're talking about common political scandal. Not excusing it but it was stuff that we were used to as a society. but i think it's generally accepted that trump's stuff was off the page. These were things we had never seen before in any political candidate and in a volume we had never seen before. The media couldnt keep up because in another week there would be something new. But i think streep was saying she wonders who we are to still elect this person.

Trump was the default bad guy, the villain, the sith lord. Everyone in The media attacked him. The demon.
But you said it yourself, we as a society are used to the kind of corruption that was coming from the DNC and her campaign. But Why?
I completely understand trump being painted as the lex luthor by all of hollywood and all the media.
But why did they think someone like her was our hero? As our savior? Why was she the " superman" of this story? Why are we ok as a society with her shady stuff? People like meryl still think she was america's superhero... why? U wanna know who could have been the hero of this story? Bernie. Why didnt the media and hollywood rally behind him? U dont have to like him but bernie was the least controversial (socialism and all) the one with the least skeletons in the closet
 
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As for things to hate... having to hound an eBay merchant in China to ship the 1/6 parts I ordered for over a week now. Finally they gave me a tracking number just now.
 
Sucks so bad he's gone. **** cancer. He sure wasn't a fan of Hillary.

I watch his debates regularly. He was incredibly insightful and unapologetic with throwing blunt truth out there.
 
And what ilk is that?

I'm not trying to silence anyone. My problem is people that complain about Politics, specifically Hollywood, has no room to complain. And this election has shown that the American people have had it being preached to by Hollywood, because they all believe were too stupid to think for ourselves so they put out their bellyaching videos. And I'm glad Streep had the self awareness that they're completely irrelevant as individuals to the population. You pretend to be other people for a living, that's it.

"...your ilk" simply means anyone who doesn't subscribe to Streep's sentiments, it wasn't a barb. Hollywood players, by and large, tend to be liberal/progressive in their socio-political leanings. They also enjoy a very public platform, which some exploit to speak to things that matter to them. So what? You're presuming that they have "no room to complain" when they simply have different concerns about the way they're governed than others might. I take your point about privilege - admittedly, when you're worried about your job and feeding your family it's difficult to care too much about gender-friendly restrooms. But I spent four years living in a dictatorship - my take on Streep et al - or Eastwood for that matter - is that the ability for citizens to speak freely about politics is far more important than agreeing with whatever it is they have to say.
 
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So, good for everybody. All still pissed, all still holier-than-thou, all still incapable of electing a real President. What else is new.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. Echo chambers have replaced democratic discourse.
 
"...your ilk" simply means anyone who doesn't subscribe to Streep's sentiments, it wasn't a barb. Hollywood players, by and large, tend to be liberal/progressive in their socio-political leanings. They also enjoy a very public platform, which some exploit to speak to things that matter to them. So what? You're presuming that they have "no room to complain" when they simply have different concerns about the way they're governed than others might. I take your point about privilege - admittedly, when you're worried about your job and feeding your family it's difficult to care too much about gender-friendly restrooms. But I spent four years living in a dictatorship - my take on Streep et al - or Eastwood for that matter - is that the ability for citizens to speak freely about politics is far more important than agreeing with whatever it is they have to say.

I see your side of it, I do. But my problem isn't what she's saying so much, nor is it her right to say it... she and every American should have their right to say whatever they like. What I mean is... should she say it? We've been beaten into the head with the celebrity propaganda for a year and a half now and the results of the election showed that no matter how many concerts a candidate has, it doesn't matter to the people in the end. I doubt she or anyone in Hollywood can sway anyone (and that goes for the Right leaning Celebs as well)

I guess in the end I'm glad a few other celebs are telling her to shut up. Arm chair politicians in Hollywood have become very tiresome.





I also find it interesting that she comes off as taking the moral high ground when it was pointed out the other day she gave a standing ovation to child rapist, Roman Polanski. I guess being in the "arts" makes it okay :monkey3
 
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I also find it interesting that she comes off as taking the moral high ground when it was pointed out the other day she gave a standing ovation to child rapist, Roman Polanski. I guess being in the "arts" makes it okay :monkey3

Yeah, at this point she's not adding anything new to what's already been said countless times before, and to little effect. The liberal/progressive set has to change up its message, because its sanctimony and name-calling has done little more than marginalise plenty of people who simply feel disenfranchised by the status quo. Their inability to engage those with whom they disagree with anything but name-calling and condescension shows a lack of imagination, among other things.

...and I've never understood how Polanski gets a free pass from the Hollywood set either. Woody Allen's another pervert who somehow has actors falling over themselves to work with him.
 
Yeah, at this point she's not adding anything new to what's already been said countless times before, and to little effect. The liberal/progressive set has to change up its message, because its sanctimony and name-calling has done little more than marginalise plenty of people who simply feel disenfranchised by the status quo. Their inability to engage those with whom they disagree with anything but name-calling and condescension shows a lack of imagination, among other things.

...and I've never understood how Polanski gets a free pass from the Hollywood set. Woody Allen's another pervert who somehow has actors falling over themselves to work with him.

Yeah Woody is another ****. I guess if you got a respectable body of work in Hollywood, and even in politics, skeletons get conveniently ignored.
 
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