Media Are you okay with paying $20/$30 for a demo of MGS V?

[Solidus]

MGS4 didn't even seem like it was in the same universe as MGS2, like it was not connected to it whatsoever.

Nanomachines, son!

Everything with the S3 plan was just ignored and was barely even acknowledged. It was never explained how humans even receive orders from the A.I.s at all which always bothered me.

I'm pretty sure the nanomachines were responsible for that

Sure it's probably them just manipulating digital information to enact their will, but it was never actually stated. MGS4 was very lazily written, and the whole Johnny & Meryl thing has got to be the most embarrassing moment I've ever seen in gaming.

Please refer to the above answer!

Johnny should of stayed a B level character that just made cameos.

But, the nanomachines made him more awesomer than Snake in the end

MGS is the most perfectest series ever. Most of the fans say so - I read it on the Internet - so I believe it must be true.

 

[pturtle]

Nope just your opinion. You don't have to love the game, but it shouldn't bother you that others did.

 

[Dead-Man]

 

[pturtle]

They didn’t seem to know as much about the game as I thought they should, but still loved the comparison they made about MGR being a 60 dollar game.

 

[Moonloop]

I determined that the price of this game is irrelevant if your a MGS fan. Your gonna buy it whether it's $60, $40 or $10. Heck, I'm not even a MGS fan and I am, getting this game day one.

Something about it appeals to me, and I'm eager to play it after reading more about it (regardless of length).

 

[Solidus]

The one point that they completely missed about MGR, is that it's impossible to beat it in a speed-run of several minutes like GZ. Realistically speaking, someone would have to train themselves to become very proficient at the parrying system and master the boss battles to complete the game in a relatively short amount of time - whatever that may constitute; whether it's a speed-run of a few hours, 30 minutes, etc.

It took me several days to beat MGR on normal mode - and I struggled immensely against Moonsoon and Armstrong the first time I played it. In comparison, the speed-runners at Konami managed to finish GZ's campaign in one sitting, while noting a completion time of 2 hours and a speed run of five-minutes. So, the argument falls apart when attempting to justify GZ's price by extrapolating the price of MGR and writing it off as a "short game".

For all intents and purposes, GZ is a demo of MGS V that will be offered at retail. But, the question that everyone will have to answer for themselves, is whether Konami's asking price is justifiable enough for them to purchase it.

 

[Dylan]

I wouldnt have a problem with the length if the game was $15 -$20 across the board. I paid 15 for Far Cry Blood Dragon and it seems to have a longer campaign and just about as much replay value.

 

[pturtle]

I determined that the price of this game is irrelevant if your a MGS fan. Your gonna buy it whether it's $60, $40 or $10. Heck, I'm not even a MGS fan and I am, getting this game day one.

Something about it appeals to me, and I'm eager to play it after reading more about it (regardless of length).

The game looks really fun, I think this MGS will pull in a ton of newer fans because the gameplay looks to be taking precedence over cutscenes this time around.

 

[pturtle]

The one point that they completely missed about MGR, is that it's impossible to beat it in a speed-run of several minutes like GZ. Realistically speaking, someone would have to train themselves to become very proficient at the parrying system and master the boss battles to complete the game in a relatively short amount of time - whatever that may constitute; whether it's a speed-run of a few hours, 30 minutes, etc.

It took me several days to beat MGR on normal mode - and I struggled immensely against Moonsoon and Armstrong the first time I played it. In comparison, the speed-runners at Konami managed to finish GZ's campaign in one sitting, while noting a completion time of 2 hours and a speed run of five-minutes. So, the argument falls apart when attempting to justify GZ's price by extrapolating the price of MGR and writing it off as a "short game".

For all intents and purposes, GZ is a demo of MGS V that will be offered at retail. But, the question that everyone will have to answer for themselves, is whether Konami's asking price is justifiable enough for them to purchase it.

Which is why you can buy GZ from anywhere of 20-40 dollars. If you think 40 is too much, then buy it for 30 or 20 bucks. The option is in the consumers hands.

 

[Solidus]

I wouldnt have a problem with the length if the game was $15 -$20 across the board. I paid 15 for Far Cry Blood Dragon and it seems to have a longer campaign and just about as much replay value.

I wouldn't have a problem if this thing were free. Honestly, I just don't like the idea of spending much on game, that I can complete on a coffee break.

Blood Dragon's is fantastic, by the way . It's definitely up there as one of my favorite games of 2013.

 

[Dylan]

You know back when Kojim awas talking about this game being more like a TV show I was hoping it would be episodic so we would just get frequent small bites. But at $40 an episode I think we are better off with a full game release.

 

[Solidus]

You know back when Kojim awas talking about this game being more like a TV show I was hoping it would be episodic so we would just get frequent small bites. But at $40 an episode I think we are better off with a full game release.

Lord Koji doesn't know what he's doing. What kind of TV series has an "episode" (GZ) that's two hours long, followed by another "episode" (TPP) that's reportedly many times longer?

I was skeptical about the episodic thing from the beginning. I mean, just imagine if MGS 4 was handled this way - with each of the "Acts" released as $40 DLCs.

Konami is obviously cashing in on MGS V - and in my opinion, the way that they're doing it feels like highway robbery.

 

[Dylan]

I just worry about the trend it sets. If MGS can do it when its been 6 years since the last game why couldnt COD?

When Hitman Absolution came out you got the Sniper Challenge for free just for preordering the damn thing. I was hoping that would catch on with more developers but it seems the only trends that do are the terrible ones.

 

[Solidus]

I just worry about the trend it sets. If MGS can do it when its been 6 years since the last game why couldnt COD?

When Hitman Absolution came out you got the Sniper Challenge for free just for preordering the damn thing. I was hoping that would catch on with more developers but it seems the only trends that do are the terrible ones.

I'm still hoping that there's some kind of backlash from this in sales, so that it doesn't become a trend. But yeah, I'm sure that other companies are closely watching GZ right now to see if Konami's pricing strategy for it "pays" off.

 

[krec9]

I'm still hoping that there's some kind of backlash from this in sales, so that it doesn't become a trend. But yeah, I'm sure that other companies are closely watching GZ right now to see if Konami's pricing strategy for it "pays" off.

It will catch on most companies are in desperate need for something new .

 

[Solidus]

It will catch on most companies are in desperate need for something new .

It takes the fun out of playing video games when companies are finding new ways to rip us off all the time.

 

[krec9]

It takes the fun out of playing video games when companies are finding new ways to rip us off all the time.

Whatever happened to unlockables now it's dlc that's on the disc already and you have to pay for it.

 

[Solidus]

Whatever happened to unlockables now it's dlc that's on the disc already and you have to pay for it.

One thing's for certain, I really miss the 90s and early 2000s - when you would actually buy a game, and all of its contents were already on the disk. I think after everyone got broadband, it finally clicked that companies can charge us for DLCs up the azz, because of easier distribution through the Internet.

Konami has taken it a step further, though. We mightn't have free demos anymore if this catches on .

 

[krec9]

One thing's for certain, I really miss the 90s and early 2000s - when you would actually buy a game, and all of its contents were already on the disk. I think after everyone got broadband, it finally clicked that companies can charge us for DLCs up the azz, because of easier distribution through the Internet.

Konami has taken it a step further, though. We mightn't have free demos anymore if this catches on .

Free demos are so misleading though demos could be great but the games sucked.

 

[Solidus]

Free demos are so misleading though demos could be great but the games sucked.

All a strategy to hype the sales. I always wait for media reviews (eg. IGN, Rev3games, etc), and word-of-mouth opinions from people before buying something. And it's going to be even more so with GZ.

I rarely pre-order games anymore. In fact, this is the first MGS game, that I haven't pre-ordered, and don't plan on getting on release.