Avengers: Endgame

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Khev mentioned that the best way to have handled the Hulk in AEG was to have Professor hulk get some time to shine in the final battle.

It might have helped me in the moment.. But again this is not the Hulk in EG.. Its not Professor Hulk either.

The Hulk was killed off with no fanfare. Tony's death meant something, Black Widow's Death meant something, the aging of Cap meant something, but the death of the hulk.. Nothing.

Again if they handled the Hulk in this film like the comic version I may not be so frustrated.. But there was no sign of the hulk in this film..

Seriously look at the photos below and compare.. Banner really just looks like a large bodybuilder or WWE performer. Nothing was left of the hulk other then his green skin. There was no merge of Banner and Hulk.. The best of both worlds just did not happen.

I am about done with complaining as I know it changes nothing and even the fans of the film feel Hulk was short changed and feel bad for the hulk fans out there... I am sure I will have a rebuttal or two as Khev, Jye, Wor, Clown or someone else will force me to .. But

If this is it for the Hulk then I just got to say RIP Hulk... We hardly knew ya. ​

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Oh and going back to Cap lifting the hammer at the AOU party for a minute. I don't think that him being considerate of Thor's "ego" (if you want to put it that way) diminishes Thor's character. After all Vision lifted the hammer later in that same film and it didn't crush Thor. But at the party when Thor was a bit tipsy and Stark and Hawkeye had already mocked him over the whole being worthy thing? That wouldn't have been the time to prove them right and go out of his way to humiliate a fellow teammate.

Thor reacting humbly to both Vision and Cap lifting it shows that he was indeed a class act.

It can also be argued that Steve didn't stop lifting the hammer to protect Thor's ego, but rather *everyone else's* who had just spectacularly failed to do the same.

They were making fun of Cap for saying "language." It would have been the perfect comeback for him to lift the hammer and shut them up. They were all.drunk and having fun, except Cap because he can't get drunk.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Why are you assuming that we've seen the end of the Hulk? I'm sure he'll continue to appear in many films down the road and I can't imagine that they'll keep him in his Professor form very long, especially once someone else takes over the part.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

A1 is a solid movie through and through. And complete. Endlessly rewatchable.

IW I just love. Its like ESB - a series of great scenes with heroes being separated that all culminate in a devastating finale. It is also endlessly rewatchable.

A1/IW have much in common with ANH/ESB

Then there's EG. I love seeing the ending. The end of Thanos. But the rest of it.... I don't know. It's not calling to me like IW did. But I've only seen it once. I just didn't get the same kind of goosebumps as the other two.

I have a feeling in time my ranking will be:

1. IW
2. A1
3. EG

So Basically

A1 = A New Hope
IW = The Empire Strikes Back
EG = Return of the Jedi
AOU = Attack of the Clones.


That's about right.

Hope that time will help me appreciated EG like I do Jedi.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Why are you assuming that we've seen the end of the Hulk? I'm sure he'll continue to appear in many films down the road and I can't imagine that they'll keep him in his Professor form very long, especially once someone else takes over the part.

Because I am never getting my hopes up for this character again.. If I stay negative then I can only be pleasantly surprised.





In Very cool News I heard that Disney + is doing a What If? Tv series.

That is Awesome.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Oh and going back to Cap lifting the hammer at the AOU party for a minute. I don't think that him being considerate of Thor's "ego" (if you want to put it that way) diminishes Thor's character. After all Vision lifted the hammer later in that same film and it didn't crush Thor. But at the party when Thor was a bit tipsy and Stark and Hawkeye had already mocked him over the whole being worthy thing? That wouldn't have been the time to prove them right and go out of his way to humiliate a fellow teammate.

Thor reacting humbly to both Vision and Cap lifting it shows that he was indeed a class act.

It can also be argued that Steve didn't stop lifting the hammer to protect Thor's ego, but rather *everyone else's* who had just spectacularly failed to do the same.

Oh Cap is so great.. Oh Cap is such a class act... Oh Cap can lift Thor's Hammer, he's always been worthy..

Get a Room Khev

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Man that cowl is borderline 80's movie Cap. What were they thinking.. At least the 80's film had sense enough to show his ears.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Because I am never getting my hopes up for this character again.. If I stay negative then I can only be pleasantly surprised.

It works for me, lol.

Man my initial reactions to the Russos and the lame "Winter Soldier" story being announced for TWS back in 2012 are freaking hilarious.

From "You, Me, and Dupree" to Captain America? *groan*

Okay, I admit that I poo poo'd the decision to give Cap to both Johnston AND Evans but this...I'm just not feeling.

I think I'm going to be proven correct that for all intents and purposes the Marvel cinematic universe ended with Avengers. Give me that upcoming blu-ray box set and I'll be able to call it a day.

My dream Cap movie would feature Rogers stepping down and being replaced by the brawnier, more sadistic John Walker. That actually will be easier to do since Evans isn't that huge and allows for a bigger actor to join the cast.

However I do NOT want to see these dolts directing that movie. Just do Winter Soldier or something I don't care about so I can dismiss it that much easier.

But only for one movie. IM2 was very mediocre. You really never know how these things are going to go and all you can do is hope that the studio hedges their bets to the best of their ability. It doesn't appear that they did that with the directors they chose for Cap 2.

Official new title is CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER, apparently got a huge cheer when announced.

Very disappointing. A bad idea that is made worse by having it happen WAY too soon. Oh well.

Good lord I was way worse than you back then. I really didn't have a clue, lol.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

This is actually the Cap I grew up with. Actually I remember very little accept watching an episode while on vacation at my grandmothers in Florida and thinking it was dumb he was wearing a helmet.

These pics do make me feel better about EG Cap getting to shine.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Oh Cap is so great.. Oh Cap is such a class act... Oh Cap can lift Thor's Hammer, he's always been worthy..

Get a Room Khev

Thor reacting well to Vision and Cap lifting the hammer shows that HE (Thor!!) was the "class act."

lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

It works for me, lol.

Man my initial reactions to the Russos and the lame "Winter Soldier" story being announced for TWS back in 2012 are freaking hilarious.

That was an awesome look back.

This is actually the Cap I grew up with.

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Make me want to twist his nipples. Or is it a her?

Why is he/she oompa-loompa orange?

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

It works for me, lol.

Man my initial reactions to the Russos and the lame "Winter Soldier" story being announced for TWS back in 2012 are freaking hilarious.




Good lord I was way worse than you back then. I really didn't have a clue, lol.

That's a great read.

I have never been that wrong about anything ever

I remember thinking that it was so weird that Marvel was getting those two to do that movie.

TWS still has IMO the best / most exciting action scene in the MCU and it does not even have a Marvel Superhero in it.

The Nick Fury Car chase is fantastic and still gets me on the edge of my seat every time I watch it.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Thor reacting well to Vision and Cap lifting the hammer shows that HE (Thor!!) was the "class act."

lol

Jaws not read Well.

Jaws still sad about EG.

JAWS must have gotten confused from time JAWS click reply with quote to time JAWS start typing.



Seriously though.. I just read things like Class Act and assume you must be talking about Cap

​

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

The Nick Fury Car chase is fantastic and still gets me on the edge of my seat every time I watch it.

Yep. That's when that movie grabbed me and never let go.

That, and the WS vs Cap showdown near the freeway. Best hand-to-hand fight since Smith vs Neo.

 

[e30ernest]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

It works for me, lol.

Man my initial reactions to the Russos and the lame "Winter Soldier" story being announced for TWS back in 2012 are freaking hilarious.















Good lord I was way worse than you back then. I really didn't have a clue, lol.

Haha that's an amazing read. I wouldn't blame you though, you'd never expect the Russos to perform this way given their background at the time.

With regards to TWS, this was the first time I actually liked Cap as a character/hero. Maybe it's because I'm not American, but I was never a fan of him. I grew up thinking that this is a dorky guy dressed in a flag who threw a shield.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Khev mentioned that the best way to have handled the Hulk in AEG was to have Professor hulk get some time to shine in the final battle.

It might have helped me in the moment.. But again this is not the Hulk in EG.. Its not Professor Hulk either.

The Hulk was killed off with no fanfare. Tony's death meant something, Black Widow's Death meant something, the aging of Cap meant something, but the death of the hulk.. Nothing.

Again if they handled the Hulk in this film like the comic version I may not be so frustrated.. But there was no sign of the hulk in this film..

Seriously look at the photos below and compare.. Banner really just looks like a large bodybuilder or WWE performer. Nothing was left of the hulk other then his green skin. There was no merge of Banner and Hulk.. The best of both worlds just did not happen.

I am about done with complaining as I know it changes nothing and even the fans of the film feel Hulk was short changed and feel bad for the hulk fans out there... I am sure I will have a rebuttal or two as Khev, Jye, Wor, Clown or someone else will force me to .. But

If this is it for the Hulk then I just got to say RIP Hulk... We hardly knew ya. ​

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Damn, Hulk lost all his gains. His big ass from Thor 3 is gone too, probably. There's only room for one ass and perfect body for the Russo bros, so they took away Thor's and hulk's gains to protect Steve self esteem. Even Widows blond hair had to go to make Cap and Tony feel pretty. I see it now.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yep. That's when that movie grabbed me and never let go.

That, and the WS vs Cap showdown near the freeway. Best hand-to-hand fight since Smith vs Neo.

TWS only issue is the ending.. It just does not live up to the rest of the film.. Its when it becomes the most like a bit budget Marvel movie and when it becomes its most boring.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Damn, Hulk lost all his gains. His big ass from Thor 3 is gone too, probably. There's only room for one ass and perfect body for the Russo bros, so they took away Thor's and hulk's gains to protect Steve self esteem. Even Widows blond hair had to go to make Cap and Tony feel pretty. I see it now.

Exactly ​

Tony's hair is even more blonde in EG so he can be prettier then Widow. ​

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yeah, I have to say when I think of TWS, I almost never think about the big climax.

I think of Fury's car chase, or the freeway fight, or the bunker, or the funny banter with BW, or the elevator, or the roof chase... or even Robert Redford shooting his housekeeper.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

That's a great read.

I have never been that wrong about anything ever

I'm never right about these things in advance, lol. I also made tons of posts whining about what stupid ideas it would be to make movies about stealing the Death Star plans or young Han Solo. But oh it is so sweet to be proven wrong. So I don't blame you for clutching your A1 and TIH discs and retreating into the night, lol.