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1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 279 - Star Wars Episode IV: 1/6th scale Darth Vader
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loki2371
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Which Vader is better, this one or Rogue One version? I'm reay tempted to get one of these.
SilverStar17
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If you want just a general Vader representation, R1 seems to be the better one. If you want one that conforms specifically to ANH, then this one.
jkno
Stormtrooper
ANH for me as well. The only issue I had were with the gloves, but you can live with those as well.
SilverStar17
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I have the ANH version being that I have the majority of the rest of the ANH line. Gloves aren't an issue for me because the pose I have him in conceals them underneath the cape.
jkno
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Oh yes, an ESB version. And/or a ROTJ reveal. I only have 2 Vader figures left: modded HT ANH and the old ROTJ Medicom. I definitely want an ESB/ROTJ Vader from HT. 
loki2371
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I love my ANH as well. The RO version is pretty and shiny, but so will be the ESB or ROTJ versions. Plus the RO is bare bones. Yes the gloves are nicer, but they got details wrong on the RO figure too. He comes with a totally wrong lightsaber, his tunic is over the armor as opposed to under, and yes you can change it but it doesn't look right as the armor is very bulky. And the pleats one can argue wether they are right or wrong, but I feel that was more a solution to making it look bunched up rather than trying to futz it to make it look that way.
With the ANH, I like the light up saber so I can deal with the gloves as I understand why they made it that way. The sound is also nice, but was executed badly by HT. The interrogator droid is great other than being slightly underscaled. And I prefer the grated base than to these new bases. And lastly I feel it's more screen accurate. I like the weathered used look as its my favorite version of Vader. I'll have my nice shiny version when they release the inevitable ESB/ROTJ...
With the ANH, I like the light up saber so I can deal with the gloves as I understand why they made it that way. The sound is also nice, but was executed badly by HT. The interrogator droid is great other than being slightly underscaled. And I prefer the grated base than to these new bases. And lastly I feel it's more screen accurate. I like the weathered used look as its my favorite version of Vader. I'll have my nice shiny version when they release the inevitable ESB/ROTJ...
jkno
Stormtrooper
^ A great description loki!
loki2371
Super Freak
.... thanks
SilverStar17
Super Freak
The tunic in R1 was pleated and over the armor. The figure came with the tunic under the armor, so you have to switch it if you want it to look R1 accurate.
loki2371
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Yes you are right on both accounts. But, in the movie the tunic over the armor doesn't look as bulky as on the HT figure. The armor itself is bulkier than ANH yet not completely covering his shoulders as it's open in the back rather than closed, and the pleats on the tunic make it even more so. As far as the pleats being movie accurate, that's debatable. I've never seen pictures of the RO movie outfit that actually shows it was sown with pleats. It's quite possible it's just bunched together like in ANH and HT got that wrong, or HT did it as to show folds in the tunic without trying to do it yourself as in ANH on screen sometimes it's bunched together, sometimes it's not.
And if it is folds and pleats, just like many other inconsistencies with the RO Vader compared to ANH, what did Vader have his personal seamstress remove them mere hours later when he catches up to Leia in the Tantive IV? As well as polishing and repainting his helmet, armor, chest plate, belt, and downgrading his lightsaber as it is more the ESB version, not the ANH version? These are inconsistencies in the movie, not HT rendition of it.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great looking figure, and I still may have bought it if it didn't sell out so quickly as I have nearly every 1/6 Vader. But the ANH figure will be the only ANH version, the RO version will be all but forgoten about when HT releases an ESB or ROTJ version. It has much more in common with those than the ANH version. And the ANH version isn't perfect either.. That, for some reason seems to be an impossibility to get a perfect Vader.
SilverStar17
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No you'd be correct. For every inconsistency the R1 figure may have (bulky armor, questionable pleats, etc), the ANH figure has just as many inconsistencies with ANH as well.
I don't really think there's a definitive answer to which one is "better" per se, because it's all contingent on what look you're going for and trying to acheive. If you want an ANH look, the R1 figure has too many nuances that aren't ANH accurate and despite film inconsistencies of its own, the ANH figure straight out of the box is way more ANH accurate than the R1 figure. Obviously, which is why it's the ANH version.
Personally, I don't think there's many people who got the R1 version to serve specifically as a R1 representation of Vader; that's not to say nobody did, but I feel the majority got it to serve as a general representation of Vader to hold them over until the inevitable ESB or RotJ version because they prefer the shinier armor and because it has better gloves. You see many people who have the R1 figure leave the tunic underneath the armor as opposed to doing a simple futz to make it R1 accurate, which would be tunic over the armor.
If the ANH figure came with the tunic under the armor, I highly doubt you'd see many people leave it that way.
I don't really think there's a definitive answer to which one is "better" per se, because it's all contingent on what look you're going for and trying to acheive. If you want an ANH look, the R1 figure has too many nuances that aren't ANH accurate and despite film inconsistencies of its own, the ANH figure straight out of the box is way more ANH accurate than the R1 figure. Obviously, which is why it's the ANH version.
Personally, I don't think there's many people who got the R1 version to serve specifically as a R1 representation of Vader; that's not to say nobody did, but I feel the majority got it to serve as a general representation of Vader to hold them over until the inevitable ESB or RotJ version because they prefer the shinier armor and because it has better gloves. You see many people who have the R1 figure leave the tunic underneath the armor as opposed to doing a simple futz to make it R1 accurate, which would be tunic over the armor.
If the ANH figure came with the tunic under the armor, I highly doubt you'd see many people leave it that way.
Rogue One version looks better to me with the pleats and tunic under the armor. Tailoring etc was designed that way as Loki mentioned. Only thing that look is accurate to, though, is the Rogue One promo Vader.
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Honestly I'd like to switch the tunic over the armor on my RO Vader since it was worn like that for the vast majority of his scenes, but the material is a bit too thick for it to look just right. It kind of puffs out. But that's ok with me, as I think it looks really good and he did have it under the armor in one scene on the Star Destroyer. Plus like TonTon said, you can consider it a Rogue One Promo Darth Vader.
SilverStar17
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Yeah, I've heard many people say they leave the tunic under the armor because the tailoring isn't really friendly to it being over the armor and having the figure look good as opposed to being a stickler for screen accuracy with it takes precedence. Like you said, the only thing that look is accurate to though is R1 Promo Vader.
Although as I mentioned, I think a majority of the reason why people aren't a stickler for screen accuracy with it is because many didn't get it to serve specifically as a R1 version, but simply just a general Vader. They went for the shinier armor and the improved gloves.
Though I'm inclined to say that was likely an error and not intentional.
Although as I mentioned, I think a majority of the reason why people aren't a stickler for screen accuracy with it is because many didn't get it to serve specifically as a R1 version, but simply just a general Vader. They went for the shinier armor and the improved gloves.
Though I'm inclined to say that was likely an error and not intentional.
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Though I'm inclined to say that was likely an error and not intentional.
I think so too. It was probably one of the original shots before the reshoots. They might've thought that nobody would notice. And I really didn't until I saw it pointed out.
Just got the photos of the ANH Vader belt buckle I commissioned Jon de Guzman to make for me. And he did an absolutely amazing job, and as with all his work, it's actually made of metal too!
He even accurately replicated the slight downward tilt of the silver "D" shape, which a lot of folks overlook.
He's willing to make more for folks that are interested, here's a link to the interest thread:
https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/...180359-darth-vader-belt-buckle-fullmetal.html
Here's the pics of the final product all painted and weathered:
He even accurately replicated the slight downward tilt of the silver "D" shape, which a lot of folks overlook.
He's willing to make more for folks that are interested, here's a link to the interest thread:
https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/...180359-darth-vader-belt-buckle-fullmetal.html
Here's the pics of the final product all painted and weathered:
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