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a-dev said:
Looks excellent Blade, very nice pics. How'd you find putting the jacket on the huge T-800 body? Hard work?

Also for the police shootout itself I think the jacket should be open. It might improve poseability aswell maybe.

The jacket was already on the body. Seller partially clothed it, so the pants, shirt, and biker attire didn't have to be put on by me. I like the zippered look to be honest, as the pics of that one custom pretty much convinced me that accurate or not, I had to display him like that. A last comment, poseability is definitely hindered, but not as much as I was led to believe.




P. said:
the best thing (except cool ar-180 of course) is how you posed the collar.
how the hell did you manage it???

All I did was raise the middle of it up, while keeping the flaps down. Heh, it's actually how I wear my Columbia Sportswear jackets. Those flaps won't completely touch the jacket unless they're sewn in like the lower ones, but they look the part. If you're having trouble with yours, my guess is this jacket was worn out to the point where you could bend or adjust things like that with relative ease.
My favorite shot would probably be the one I took of his back, since it really reminds me of MMS02 in a way; you keep expecting it to turn around and show you the hamburger face, but it's all total Arnold there. I love figures like this, since there are just so many things you can do with them that buying duplicate parts and bashing a custom is almost like getting a brand-new piece altogether.






Some crappy pics of the T-800 gang and my entire Termie shelf (T-700, PS, Aoshima Endo, TN, Weathered Skin T-600)...

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My Terminator shelf is pretty much complete for now, unless I decide to get into 1/2-scale busts or something like that. Either way, I definitely need to get a detolf to put all of my Predators in. When that happens, I'll have three more levels on my wooden shelves freed. :yess
 
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One thing that i was thinking of the other night is the gun store clerk.

Specifically his line "anyone of these is ideal for home defense".

Now i know americans are very liberal when it comes to their right to bear arms and protect themselves and to 'keep the king of england outta your face'*, but how did that gun store owner sleep at night, he was prepared to sell handguns, shotguns and semi-auto rifles to a bloke who looked like he was a gang thug. This isnt a guy who was buying a gun to protect himself, his home and his family this was a bloke who; it was plain to see would use the guns to terrorize and kill said families.

I mean seriously, really?? Home defense?? What a *********. if he lived it'd be his fault that the terminator massacred those cops and countless other civilians throughout the film.

I honestly expected him to offer him a buy two guns get a hand grenade free special of the week.

(*Homer Simpson)

Surreptitious jab at america is surreptitious.
 
You're all probably so used to it in the US but to those in Europe and elsewhere the reputed ease of access you have to guns is just unbelievable, mindboggling stuff.
 
I thought you couldn't buy an Uzi... and even if you could, that's hardly a weapon for home defense. Same goes for the SPAS-12. Or the Longslide.

Bless that poor store clerk.
 
One thing that i was thinking of the other night is the gun store clerk.

Specifically his line "anyone of these is ideal for home defense".

Now i know americans are very liberal when it comes to their right to bear arms and protect themselves and to 'keep the king of england outta your face'*, but how did that gun store owner sleep at night, he was prepared to sell handguns, shotguns and semi-auto rifles to a bloke who looked like he was a gang thug. This isnt a guy who was buying a gun to protect himself, his home and his family this was a bloke who; it was plain to see would use the guns to terrorize and kill said families.

I mean seriously, really?? Home defense?? What a *********. if he lived it'd be his fault that the terminator massacred those cops and countless other civilians throughout the film.

I honestly expected him to offer him a buy two guns get a hand grenade free special of the week.

(*Homer Simpson)
Are you serious?!
You have a problem with this scene...but the time-travelling, flesh-wearing robot was perfectly fine?
 
There are special versions of the UZI sold in the US for civillian use, its not automatic of course and the barrel is longer to meet requirements. Same with the AR. Im not sure about the SPAS-12 though. You can pump it or use it semi automatic, her in Sweden semi auto shotguns are allowed (But only versions that allow 3 shells to be loaded into the tube) so im sure its legal in the US too.
 
Question for those that have both the T-800 and T-700 Endoskeletons: What are the major differences between the structures of the two? Not interested in what they come with. Just the body differences. Thanks!

I don't have a T-700 but it looks exactly the same as the T-800 apart from its rough surface texture and darker colour.
 
I thought you couldn't buy an Uzi... and even if you could, that's hardly a weapon for home defense. Same goes for the SPAS-12. Or the Longslide.

Bless that poor store clerk.

You can't. At most you can have civilian rifles such as the AR ones; but they have to be only semi automatic. Even then you have to get a gun permit and have it registered and for the more powerful ones (i.e. ones not used for hunting or simple pistols) you need to take a gun safety course.

Of course, all of that in the movie would have really messed with pacing so yeahhhhh.
 
I don't have a T-700 but it looks exactly the same as the T-800 apart from its rough surface texture and darker colour.

But the design is the same though, huh? Is it the same size? Cause from that pic on the last page, it looks like it might be smaller? I'm thinking about getting an Endo, but if the 700 is practically the same as the 800, just minus the stuff the 800 comes with then I'd go the "cheaper chicken" route. Would just need to get some good chrome paint and repaint it...
 
You can't. At most you can have civilian rifles such as the AR ones; but they have to be only semi automatic. Even then you have to get a gun permit and have it registered and for the more powerful ones (i.e. ones not used for hunting or simple pistols) you need to take a gun safety course.

Of course, all of that in the movie would have really messed with pacing so yeahhhhh.

This is what I found:

Are they illegal? No. Are they highly regulated? Yes.

Contrary to popular belief, fully automatic weapons are NOT illegal in the US. They are however HIGHLY regulated. Full auto weapons have been regulated with three different pieces of legislation. The first was the National Firearms Act of 1934, then the Gun Control Act of 1968, and finally the Hughes Amendment in 1986. In essence, what these three laws have done is to say respectfully that fully automatic firearms must be taxed and regulated, cannot be imported from outside the United States, and can no longer manufacture and/or register new/existing full auto weapons with the federal government (BATFE).

In order to legally own one, you must first find one that you wish to buy. For it to be legal, it must have been made and registered with the BATFE prior to 19 May 1986. These are what are known as transferrable NFA or Class III items.

Your next step will be to negotiate a price with the buyer. Most buyers have their prices set pretty firm and the going rate for a M16 varies by condition and model (M16A1, A2, AR-15 conversion, etc). A brand new, unfired, factory Colt M16A2 is going to run you about $18,000+ while a used AR-15 conversion will run you about $9,500-$13,000+. You will just have to shop around and look for the best deal out there.

Once you find one and negotiate a price you will need to pay the seller. Depending on if you are buying the item from out of state or not, you may also need to find a local Class III FFL/SOT to handle the transfer. NFA/Class III items CANNOT be shipped or carried across state lines without the proper prior approved paperwork. If buying out of state, you would need to have it transferred to a local seller who would then transfer it to you. Once you have found a FFL/SOT if needed, you will need to pay the seller. Unlike with other firearms where you can often do installment payments for years or put it on a credit card, most NFA sellers want full funds up front although some are willing to work with you and do half now, half when the paperwork comes back. At best, you are looking at half up front before he will even start the paperwork.

Once the seller is satisfied with the payment plan and has his funds, he will begin the paperwork. This requires a little bit of work on your end. You will need to get a few things in order for the process to be complete. You will need to get two sets of fingerprint cards done, two passport photos, and fill out a Form 4 (to include the signature of the CLEO of the area you live in) and write a check to the Department of the Treasury for the $200 transfer tax. It is this special tax that will allow you to legally own the weapon. Once you have all this together along with the required paperwork from the seller, you will ship it all to the BATFE who will then have one of their 10 or so inspectors sit down and review it. Any little error will cause it to be rejected and sent back. This is where the frustration begins as the wait starts. It generally takes anywhere from 50-90 days for them to process an application. The main thing that they will be doing is running an extensive background check on you through the FBI criminal database using all your information as well as your fingerprints.

Once the paperwork finally comes back, the seller can then legally ship/transfer the weapon to you. You CANNOT take posession of it before this time or it will be the same as being in possession of an unregistered machine gun which carries a stiff penalty in federal prison.

And that is all there is to it. Once you receive the tax stamp, always makes sure you keep a COPY with the weapon at all times no matter where it goes. Also, remember to keep the original in a SAFE place where nothing will happen to it as the BATFE does not replace lost, stolen, or destroyed tax stamps.

The above advice assumes you are buying in state. If buying out of state, the process is the same, except that you will be required to do two to three transfers. One from the seller to a Class III FFL/SOT if he is not already one, then one from the FFL/SOT in his state to an FFL/SOT in your state, and then from your local FFL/SOT to you. There is no wait time or transfer tax between FFL/SOT's. This means that you will basically only be waiting on the time it takes for two transfers if buying out of state.

If you want to be able tp purchase new full auto weapons, you will need to apply for a FFL/SOT permit from the BATFE. Getting one isn't really all that difficult, except that you need to deal in NFA items and not just buy them. If you only buy and don't sell, then the BATFE can get you on tax evasion. You must also get requests from law enforcement agencies or military units before purchasing them even with an FFL/SOT. This is because FFL/SOT is not exactly a free license to purchase full auto weapons. It merely means that you are an authorized dealer to provide them to law enforcement agencies. However, there is nothing that says you cannot take them out for some fun when not demoing them for the police.


https://www.autoweapons.com
 
But the design is the same though, huh? Is it the same size? Cause from that pic on the last page, it looks like it might be smaller? I'm thinking about getting an Endo, but if the 700 is practically the same as the 800, just minus the stuff the 800 comes with then I'd go the "cheaper chicken" route. Would just need to get some good chrome paint and repaint it...

Again I don't have the T-700 but I didn't hear about any changes from the sculpt of the T-800 endo. All that appears different is the rougher texture and the colour - that rougher texture might be a problem for you when repainting. Its a bit of a bummer really.
 
Question for those that have both the T-800 and T-700 Endoskeletons: What are the major differences between the structures of the two? Not interested in what they come with. Just the body differences. Thanks!

The T-700 (the figure, at least) seems to have a skinnier, longer face than the T-800. The overall build looks slimmed down too, while the T-800 is bigger and buffer.
 
I dont have the T-700 either, but it does look exactly the same as a T-800 from what I can see.(apart from the obvious colour difference and texture)
Im pretty sure that Hot Toys used the same mold as the T-800 too, so the proportions should be exactly the same.
 
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