Hot Toys - MMS196 - The Avengers: Battle Damaged Mark VII (Movie Promo Edition)

[the whale]

but IMO if your low on cash you shouldn't sell a figure to buy another that doesn't solve your problem at all...One should sell and stay away from this hobby for a while until one gets back on their feet.

 

[hokietwo]

but IMO if your low on cash you shouldn't sell a figure to buy another that doesn't solve your problem at all...One should sell and stay away from this hobby for a while until one gets back on their feet.

Ok what if you don't want the figure anymore, and the money is not a issue where you are eating PB and J for the next month.

 

[Nintenjoe]

I always find the concept of scalping in this particular hobby and people saying real fans get shafted with limited releases all the time holds little merit.

In my opinion you would be hard pressed to find many flippers/scalpers that are willing to invest the kind of cash these collectibles cost and the ability to aquire the number of figures to make it worthwhile.

The biggest "scalpers" to use the term I see are the same ones offering up the figures through distribution. Look at BBTS or other larger distributors, they offer a discount until products are in stock, then they jack the price up to going market. Some would argue these places are for the "real fans" but they raise prices for profit just as many around here define scalpers. Yet we still buy from these places. Look at retailers on eBay, same deal. Low entry costs till figures get hot then they raise the prices.

It would be interesting, but I bet most scalping goes on by the real fans that know what figures are hot and know when and how to aquire them.

People that are strapped for money and would like to have more figures. Should they be faulted for flipping a BD iron man mark vii for example to pay for a wolverine and a Spider-Man if those are their favorite characters?

Be interesting to hear some comments on this from others.

Food for thought.

I solely bought this figure to flip for profit. I have other figures on order and the BD Mark VII will definitely help pay for one. Not my problem if someone doesn't like this. It makes sense to me. Why should I spend money that know I don't have to?

 

[Jmlsuperman]

I hope people who want one get one, but there are a lot of collectors who buy this stuff that aren't on this site.

One of the few hobby shops in my area get in most Hot Toys (non exclusive). When they got the Nick Fury and Hawkeye in, the price was already at $300, because and I quote, "That's what they are going for on ebay." So is that owner considered a scalper or just trying to make as much out of his product as possible?

I buy from Sideshow for all of my Hot Toys to avoid higher aftermarket prices and from the marketplace here when a price is good.

 

[Jmlsuperman]

I solely bought this figure to flip for profit. I have other figures on order and the BD Mark VIII will definitely help pay for one. Not my problem if someone doesn't like this. It makes sense to me. Why should I spend money that know I don't have to?

That is great!!

 

[hokietwo]

I love your avatar NintenJoe. Great show, great actor.

 

[Dollmanron]

As much as I hate the fact that it’s almost the same price as the MK42, I’d rather have the Exclusive BD MKVII. I want the dead Alien base, the 90 degree Repulsar wrists, and the BD Tony Stark head/open Face plate. I think it’s a repaint of the helmet that will come with the MK42, which I’m not going to buy because of my stand on the Die-Cast issue. He’ll also come with the third Alien weapon, which I’m hoping I’ll have the first two soon if someone will just buy my Weathered T-600 off EBay so I can afford to buy Avengers Captain America, and (I’ll have to come up with some more money) Avengers Black Widow.

 

[ThatIsTooReal]

Ignore - Consents from The Rage

 

[Dollmanron]

The Weathered T-600 I'm selling is an Extra, strange story, but I accidentally got two at the same time, but I'm at least selling the best one for anyone interested.

 

[The Rage]

The Mark VII broken down completely. I REALLY want that table underneath it.

Thansk for double posting the exact same thing in two threads. Valuable information.

 

[ThatIsTooReal]

Thansk for double posting the exact same thing in two threads. Valuable information.

Both are for the Mark VII anyways, what's the big deal? Couldn't tell if the parts on the table were for the original or for both the BD and the original one combined. I noticed now it's only for the original.

 

[The Ween]

I always find the concept of scalping in this particular hobby and people saying real fans get shafted with limited releases all the time holds little merit.

In my opinion you would be hard pressed to find many flippers/scalpers that are willing to invest the kind of cash these collectibles cost and the ability to aquire the number of figures to make it worthwhile.

The biggest "scalpers" to use the term I see are the same ones offering up the figures through distribution. Look at BBTS or other larger distributors, they offer a discount until products are in stock, then they jack the price up to going market. Some would argue these places are for the "real fans" but they raise prices for profit just as many around here define scalpers. Yet we still buy from these places. Look at retailers on eBay, same deal. Low entry costs till figures get hot then they raise the prices.

It would be interesting, but I bet most scalping goes on by the real fans that know what figures are hot and know when and how to aquire them.

People that are strapped for money and would like to have more figures. Should they be faulted for flipping a BD iron man mark vii for example to pay for a wolverine and a Spider-Man if those are their favorite characters?

Be interesting to hear some comments on this from others.

Food for thought.

I don't think most have a problem with this. Most have problems with flippers who set up accounts to buy several. Nothing you can do about it really, but they don't have to like it.

I remember in HK there was one flipper who paid a ton of people to stand in line to buy figures, I think it was for a Pred, only to have it not be as limited as everyone thought. Someone posted pics of it. This guy was so proud of all the ones he bought.

 

[Nintenjoe]

I love your avatar NintenJoe. Great show, great actor.

Thanks. I love Ritter and Three's Company. One of the best shows ever!

 

[hokietwo]

I don't think most have a problem with this. Most have problems with flippers who set up accounts to buy several. Nothing you can do about it really, but they don't have to like it.

I remember in HK there was one flipper who paid a ton of people to stand in line to buy figures, I think it was for a Pred, only to have it not be as limited as everyone thought. Someone posted pics of it. This guy was so proud of all the ones he bought.

I remember that, it was shadow predator.

True, but as far as flipping, there are many new collectors now eating up volume. I just don't see many people flipping on eBay to warrant the rants. My guess is less than 5 percent of these at most are getting flipped in the US. I mean that's 250 figs on a 5000 piece release going to flipping maybe? Which seems much higher than most eBay listing volumes on the limited figures. Not flaming, but there could be just a bunch of new collectors and acquiring these figures is going to need adjusting for people.

 

[CrAZyVEgAsBoY]

I remember that, it was shadow predator.

True, but as far as flipping, there are many new collectors now eating up volume. I just don't see many people flipping on eBay to warrant the rants. My guess is less than 5 percent of these at most are getting flipped in the US. I mean that's 250 figs on a 5000 piece release going to flipping maybe? Which seems much higher than most eBay listing volumes on the limited figures. Not flaming, but there could be just a bunch of new collectors and acquiring these figures is going to need adjusting for people.

yeah you hit it dead on, there will always some scalpers but it isn't as many as people are making it out to be

 

[The Ween]

I remember that, it was shadow predator.

True, but as far as flipping, there are many new collectors now eating up volume. I just don't see many people flipping on eBay to warrant the rants. My guess is less than 5 percent of these at most are getting flipped in the US. I mean that's 250 figs on a 5000 piece release going to flipping maybe? Which seems much higher than most eBay listing volumes on the limited figures. Not flaming, but there could be just a bunch of new collectors and acquiring these figures is going to need adjusting for people.

But it gets people going when some say they were able to get multiples.

It was the Shadow Predator. Didn't that end up on the gift card list for a while?

Here's the flipper. There was also a youtube vid showing the big line of people buying these for him.

 

[hokietwo]

Talk about taking a shower in it.... Woof! LOL!

 

[Cyberseven]

I always find the concept of scalping in this particular hobby and people saying real fans get shafted with limited releases all the time holds little merit.

In my opinion you would be hard pressed to find many flippers/scalpers that are willing to invest the kind of cash these collectibles cost and the ability to aquire the number of figures to make it worthwhile.

The biggest "scalpers" to use the term I see are the same ones offering up the figures through distribution. Look at BBTS or other larger distributors, they offer a discount until products are in stock, then they jack the price up to going market. Some would argue these places are for the "real fans" but they raise prices for profit just as many around here define scalpers. Yet we still buy from these places. Look at retailers on eBay, same deal. Low entry costs till figures get hot then they raise the prices.

It would be interesting, but I bet most scalping goes on by the real fans that know what figures are hot and know when and how to aquire them.

People that are strapped for money and would like to have more figures. Should they be faulted for flipping a BD iron man mark vii for example to pay for a wolverine and a Spider-Man if those are their favorite characters?

Be interesting to hear some comments on this from others.

Food for thought.

IMO you are 100% right that the majority of the so called scalpers are actually other collectors. They follow the hobby and know when things are coming out and various connections and methods on how to get them. They know what is hot and when they would benefit selling a pice at a higher price to either make a profit, or use towards other stuff the collect.

I don't think anything is wrong with it, as the buyers always have the right to decide what they are willing to pay or not pay. I also do not think someone is a sucker for paying a higher price for a piece they either missed out on or couldn't afford at the time of release. Value in this hobby is completely in the mind of the individual buyer.

I would never pay $300,000.00 for an Exotic sports car, or even $50,000.00 for a standard luxury car, but to an exotic car collector that is the norm. Hell some classic cars from the 60's that went for 8 grand new are now selling for 80 grand to the old guy that couldn't afford one when he was a young man. Just using an analogy.

 

[hokietwo]

Value in this hobby is completely in the mind of the buyer

Excellent point. The analogy was spot on too. Cars, baseball cards, things of perceived value to people will ultimately drive the market for these items. One way or the other.

 

[Darkseed]

Excellent point. The analogy was spot on too. Cars, baseball cards, things of perceived value to people will ultimately drive the market for these items. One way or the other.

The perceived value for this figure is rising, a big reason folks who missed out complain.