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[mikhailbob]

What's the prequel comic called? I have searched for it but cannot find it.

Wow! I too think $510 is expensive. But considering its size, I'm not too surprised since the Monger wasn't much cheaper and released a while ago.

What I'm happy about is the way SS is handling the Flex preorders. I like their payment plan of 8 smaller payments. ($57 for 8! ) Much easier on my wallet! So bravo to SS for doing that!

I just wish they would spread out payments like this for cheaper figures too. Especially if the toy's release is many months out. This way, it would make it easier to have multiple preorders at the same time.

For example, the new Wolverine is released next May but you only get the Flex option of 3 payments of $75. SS could have easily spread the payment plan out more like they did for Igor. Again, if you'd like to have multiple preorders, smaller flex payments make that more feasible and possible.

Yeah i agree, everywhere has a plus and minus. In my country igor is just 385$ but theres just 1week time for pre order. The down payment should be 30% and theres no cancelation. If you cancel it you lost your down payment

 

[Jesterhead]

Also I would say majority of these suits were not designed for combat. Its too bad we didn't get to see them performing in their element. They could've shown a scene where Red Snapper has to rescue a family from a car crash on the freeway, Igor helping with a landslide during a flood in some other country, Hammerhead trying to cap an underwater oil well or Gemini fixing a satellite in space. Like an actual team helping people around the world


You know, instead of just throwing them all into a blender

There was a scene that was cut even before filming that would have had Stark, I'm guessing in an Iron Man suit (Red Snapper would have worked well, imo) clearing old Stark Industries landmines. Kinda would have set the mood for IM3 with old demons coming back to haunt Tony. It's a shame it was cut out.

 

[Blackthornone]

I know. And i am pretty sure it was an American who posted it. Really should have known the distance from Malibu to Miami.

My assertion that IGOR wouldn't fly well is based upon reason, not comic book or movie canon. It is hard enough to believe the regular suit could fly at all, let alone faster than a jet fighter, which is total BS, but IGOR flying as fast is just ridiculous. I can believe in Spiderman and the Hulk and Captain America and such, and even suspend logic enough to accept that the Mark 7 could fly well, for example, but the idea that IGOR could fly as fast is too much to accept.

By the way, I cannot accept that the individual pieces of the mark 42 could all fly to Stark individually at a few hundred mph and then assemble on him. I just can't do it.
It just doesn't make sense.

I can accept Thor flying with his hammer because it is magical, and Dr. Strange flying because he is magical, and therefore his propulsion does not depend upon aerodynamic lift, but I can't accept IGOR at anything more than 50 mph.

 

[Jesterhead]

My assertion that IGOR wouldn't fly well is based upon reason, not comic book or movie canon. It is hard enough to believe the regular suit could fly at all, let alone faster than a jet fighter, which is total BS, but IGOR flying as fast is just ridiculous. I can believe in Spiderman and the Hulk and Captain America and such, and even suspend logic enough to accept that the Mark 7 could fly well, for exasmple, but the idea that IGOR could fly as fast is too much to accept.

Anything with a thrust to weight ratio that is greater than 1 will fly (Think a missile or a rocket). Some modern rocket engines have a ratio of about 150, with Stark's RT (Magic infinite energy) I see no reason why any Iron Man suit can't fly much faster than modern aircraft. Especially considering that these suits don't need to carry traditional rocket fuel.

Remember, in IM1 Tony was ably to fly with first generation boots/gloves and his original chest RT at only 1 percent thrust capacity. Three movies later, we can assume his suits are much more advanced. I don't see why Igor can't fly across America in a few hours, considering modern aircraft can already make the trip in that time.

 

[Username]

My assertion that IGOR wouldn't fly well is based upon reason, not comic book or movie canon. It is hard enough to believe the regular suit could fly at all, let alone faster than a jet fighter, which is total BS, but IGOR flying as fast is just ridiculous. I can believe in Spiderman and the Hulk and Captain America and such, and even suspend logic enough to accept that the Mark 7 could fly well, for example, but the idea that IGOR could fly as fast is too much to accept.

By the way, I cannot accept that the individual pieces of the mark 42 could all fly to Stark individually at a few hundred mph and then assemble on him. I just can't do it.
It just doesn't make sense.

I can accept Thor flying with his hammer because it is magical, and Dr. Strange flying because he is magical, and therefore his propulsion does not depend upon aerodynamic lift, but I can't accept IGOR at anything more than 50 mph.

I wasn't talking about your post where you reckoned it wouldn't fly well.
This was another post months back i was referring to.

 

[mikhailbob]

There was a scene that was cut even before filming that would have had Stark, I'm guessing in an Iron Man suit (Red Snapper would have worked well, imo) clearing old Stark Industries landmines. Kinda would have set the mood for IM3 with old demons coming back to haunt Tony. It's a shame it was cut out.

Is it in iron man 3 blu ray bonus feature? Is it the concept art video alternative?

 

[Jesterhead]

Is it in iron man 3 blu ray bonus feature? Is it the concept art video alternative?

They mention it in the IM3 BluRay audio commentary. Unfortunately I haven't seen any artwork/storyboards of this scene.

 

[mikhailbob]

Anything with a thrust to weight ratio that is greater than 1 will fly (Think a missile or a rocket). Some modern rocket engines have a ratio of about 150, with Stark's RT (Magic infinite energy) I see no reason why any Iron Man suit can't fly much faster than modern aircraft. Especially considering that these suits don't need to carry traditional rocket fuel.

Remember, in IM1 Tony was ably to fly with first generation boots/gloves and his original chest RT at only 1 percent thrust capacity. Three movies later, we can assume his suits are much more advanced. I don't see why Igor can't fly across America in a few hours, considering modern aircraft can already make the trip in that time.

Agree, and for the fact i thought iron monger can fly almost catching up with tony eventhough he use old thruster model.. So i think igor would be flying as fine as the other suit. Bigger propulsion output maybe? Just my opinion though

 

[CaptnRex]

My assertion that IGOR wouldn't fly well is based upon reason, not comic book or movie canon. It is hard enough to believe the regular suit could fly at all, let alone faster than a jet fighter, which is total BS, but IGOR flying as fast is just ridiculous. I can believe in Spiderman and the Hulk and Captain America and such, and even suspend logic enough to accept that the Mark 7 could fly well, for example, but the idea that IGOR could fly as fast is too much to accept.

By the way, I cannot accept that the individual pieces of the mark 42 could all fly to Stark individually at a few hundred mph and then assemble on him. I just can't do it.
It just doesn't make sense.

I can accept Thor flying with his hammer because it is magical, and Dr. Strange flying because he is magical, and therefore his propulsion does not depend upon aerodynamic lift, but I can't accept IGOR at anything more than 50 mph.

It's called imagination, don't take the fun out of it because of logic.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

It's called imagination, don't take the fun out of it because of logic.

He's really trying to suck the fun out of the hobby

 

[Blackthornone]

Anything with a thrust to weight ratio that is greater than 1 will fly (Think a missile or a rocket). Some modern rocket engines have a ratio of about 150, with Stark's RT (Magic infinite energy) I see no reason why any Iron Man suit can't fly much faster than modern aircraft. Especially considering that these suits don't need to carry traditional rocket fuel.

Remember, in IM1 Tony was ably to fly with first generation boots/gloves and his original chest RT at only 1 percent thrust capacity. Three movies later, we can assume his suits are much more advanced. I don't see why Igor can't fly across America in a few hours, considering modern aircraft can already make the trip in that time.

The thing is that the suit's jets/rockets would need to be made of Adamantium because no material on Earth could withstand the amount of force needed to provide the thrust to make the suit fly at even 50 mph for any sustained period. While most of the thrust would go out the hole in the jet exhaust, there would still be so much pressure on the walls of the exhaust and engines that any known material would burst before providing the kind of thrust in the movie.

The size of the rockets is way too small to provide the amount of thrust needed to move something that fast unless made of Adamantium.

Also, if the rockets are Adamantium, why not make the whole suit out of Adamantium? Any material capable of withstanding those kinds of forces isn't going to be scratched by any bullets, I promise you that.

In that case, no bullet holes or battle damage, other than paint loss.

By the same token, no fan small enough to fit in that suit would ever be strong enough to provide the thrust unless it was Adamantium.

What is the power source of the rockets/jets? Are they rockets that draw moisture from the atmosphere and then electrically convert the water to rocket fuel, or are there fans involved as in a jet?

Perhaps there are turbofans that are powered electrically by the Arc reactor?
In the case of the Mark 42, I guess every piece has it's own mini arc reactor?

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

 

[Jesterhead]

The thing is that the suit's jets/rockets would need to be made of Adamantium because no material on Earth could withstand the amount of force needed to provide the thrust to make the suit fly at even 50 mph for any sustained period. While most of the thrust would go out the hole in the jet exhaust, there would still be so much pressure on the walls of the exhaust and engines that any known material would burst before providing the kind of thrust in the movie.

The size of the rockets is way too small to provide the amount of thrust needed to move something that fast unless made of Adamantium.

Why? We have modern aircraft that fly much, much faster than 50mph for sustained periods which don't need to use adamantium in the thruster nozzles.

What is the power source of the rockets/jets? Are they rockets that draw moisture from the atmosphere and then electrically convert the water to rocket fuel, or are there fans involved as in a jet?

Perhaps there are turbofans that are powered electrically by the Arc reactor?

The Arc Reactor powers the repulsors in the suits feet/hands. There doesn't appear to be any turbo fans in the repulsors. Somehow Stark has managed to convert the energy from the Arc Reactor directly into thrust (Once again, magic RT with infinite/near infinite energy in his chest).

In the case of the Mark 42, I guess every piece has it's own mini arc reactor?

That, or they have internal batteries, which might explain why the mk. 42 was in constant need of re-charging. Who knows though, the Arc Reactor science has always been a bit fuzzy, and easily changed when the plot calls for it.

I can understand if it's the Arc Reactor that you can't get over. In the movies, that thing is just to 'will-nilly', and behaves however the director of this particular IM movie needs it too. But if we are to accept the Arc Reactor, then flight of the suits seems trivial.

 

[Hologram AI]

The thing is that the suit's jets/rockets would need to be made of Adamantium because no material on Earth could withstand the amount of force needed to provide the thrust to make the suit fly at even 50 mph for any sustained period. While most of the thrust would go out the hole in the jet exhaust, there would still be so much pressure on the walls of the exhaust and engines that any known material would burst before providing the kind of thrust in the movie.

The size of the rockets is way too small to provide the amount of thrust needed to move something that fast unless made of Adamantium.

Also, if the rockets are Adamantium, why not make the whole suit out of Adamantium? Any material capable of withstanding those kinds of forces isn't going to be scratched by any bullets, I promise you that.

In that case, no bullet holes or battle damage, other than paint loss.

By the same token, no fan small enough to fit in that suit would ever be strong enough to provide the thrust unless it was Adamantium.

What is the power source of the rockets/jets? Are they rockets that draw moisture from the atmosphere and then electrically convert the water to rocket fuel, or are there fans involved as in a jet?

Perhaps there are turbofans that are powered electrically by the Arc reactor?
In the case of the Mark 42, I guess every piece has it's own mini arc reactor?

 

[CTO15]

are we really going through the legitimacy of an Iron Man movie?

There are just some things we have to leave to science fiction, and go with it.

Otherwise, those who watch Star Wars/Star Trek are going to have an aneurysm

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

New people here have to learn the skill of ignore Blackthorne

 

[Jesterhead]

New people here have to learn the skill of ignore Blackthorne

 

[RockEzy]

Igor would look great next to Hulk! These are highly detailed figures guys. Price does seem to keep getting higher on these figures but the quality and detail is getting better with every release.

 

[Jesterhead]

Igor would look great next to Hulk! These are highly detailed figures guys. Price does seem to keep getting higher on these figures but the quality and detail is getting better with every release.

Agreed! Paint looks sick on the big guy. I really want to see a close up of the warning labels on the forearms though.

 

[RockEzy]

Is hulk taller then Igor or they pretty much the same hight?