Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

[Biojex]

Believe me, i'm still trying to figure out this over complicated movie.

But when he says at the end that he's Iron Man, he means that he can now be Iron Man without worrying about the shrapnel, he can now fully concentrate on helping humanity instead of needing the reactor to keep him alive.

He even tells Banner in Avengers that being Iron Man is a byproduct of the shrapnel, he needs to live with that.

No longer.

So yeah, he's now Iron Man because he wants to be, not because he has to be.

I get it though if you don't buy my crap.

Jye, I think that degree from LolcatU is finally paying off

 

[The Josh]

That is the thing though, he didn't choose it for a main suit to go into battle with. His other main operational Marks were blown up by the first missile attack. The MK42 was mentioned as only being a prototype by JARVIS when the mansion is being blown up. The MK42 was a prototype for the remote operation of the suit and for Tony testing the individual armor parts. He didn't have time to go and get suited up before the explosion so that was the only option he had available since he could control all the armor parts. Since it was supposed to be a lab project prototype, he probably didn't have it wired to charge or run off his arc reactor yet.

That was how I took things as well.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I watched it this weekend and as a long time Iron Man fan, I have to say I enjoyed it. I thought the action was great and the dialogue was snappy.

Iron Man was the first comic book hero I really loved. I started reading comics at around age 5 or so. I remember reading a lot of Avengers back then, and I do remember my first few Iron Man comics, which were around #115 in 1978.

I only stuck with Iron Man through maybe around 1982, and got the couple of issues when Rhodey took over. But that span was mostly about Hammer and Shield, and it included the Demon in a Bottle storyline. So I had heard of the Mandarin, but never really read any issues with him.

*****SPOILERS!*****

So I guess the twist didn't really bother me too much because I never held the character of the Mandarin so dearly. And really, all the talk around here about spoilers and even that thread discussing specifically HT figure character spoilers, probably made the twist much less impactful. And I made sure I avoided everything having to do with Iron Man when all that spoiler talk started popping up. But just all this excessive spoiler talk I guess made me expect a twist to happen.

I guess they could have made Guy Pearce's character Asian, so him being the "real" Mandarin might have not seemed so out of left field. But eh, I thought the movie worked well enough and I thought Guy was good in the role. I did think he was channeling Val Kilmer, though! The whole Mandarin/Trevor thing is not really an issue, IMO. Killian is the real Mandarin, and he was just as evil and threatening as one would expect. But I think there is also room for another type of Mandarin to emerge in a later story line. There could always be another character, or even the "true" Mandarin, step forward as the real head of the 10 Rings.

I normally don't like kid sidekicks, but I thought this one worked well. The kid wasn't annoying or "Hollywood-y". Just to put it in perspective, I think Short Round in Temple of Doom is annoying, and I LOVE Indiana Jones.

I did think the beginning was a little choppy and clumsy. It smoothed out once the attack on the mansion started. And I thought they rushed the end when Tony narrated that Pepper was "fixed" and he had his surgery. The only thing that bothered me was the fact that his chest reactor didn't seem to be able to power the suit. I see that the 42 is mostly self-powered (as are the rest of the new suits), but I see no reason why once the suit is on Tony that the suit couldn't draw some of the power from Tony's arc reactor. And someone else mentioned that the purpose of the arc reactor seems to have changed from the first two movies seeming to be more about being a kind of pace maker from Tony, to this one being (what it was supposed to be all along) a magnet to keep the shrapnel from shifting into his heart. And I also thought that perhaps he could have kept an arc reactor on him even after the shrapnel was taken away, just so he could have extra energy for his suits. I was hoping the after credit scene would show Tony's face talking and pan down to reveal that he still had an arc reactor.

But I'm able to let it slide because the movie worked well overall despite these little things that bothered me. It's not like the other two didn't have any problems either. I don't think this movie is anywhere near as bad as Spiderman 3 or X Men 3 (which I thought were embarrassingly bad). And I think it's better than Crystal Skull (which I liked).

I'll definitely put this one ahead of #2, which I did enjoy as well. I'm still not sure how it compares to #1. The action was definitely better than the first one, but I also was fine with the amount of action in #1. I personally like it when the hero shows he's more than just his "super power". So I did enjoy Tony resorting to using his mind to build tactical gear for his raid on Vizcaya. I'll have to watch 1 again to see how it compares. It really felt like the end of a trilogy, though. Even the end credits covered all 3 movies in their visuals. I'll be very disappointed if this is truly the end of the RDJ Iron Man series.

My favorite line: "Honestly, I hate working here. Everyone here is so weird."

 

[jye4ever]

Jye, I think that degree from LolcatU is finally paying off

I might look like a mix of the Punisher and a Times Square superhero, but my brain is definately at the level of a dancing cat and shirt waving bathroom abusing tyrant.

 

[jye4ever]

I watched it this weekend and as a long time Iron Man fan, I have to say I enjoyed it. I thought the action was great and the dialogue was snappy.

Iron Man was the first comic book hero I really loved. I started reading comics at around age 5 or so. I remember reading a lot of Avengers back then, and I do remember my first few Iron Man comics, which were around #115 in 1978.

I only stuck with Iron Man through maybe around 1982, and got the couple of issues when Rhodey took over. But that span was mostly about Hammer and Shield, and it included the Demon in a Bottle storyline. So I had heard of the Mandarin, but never really read any issues with him.

*****SPOILERS!*****

So I guess the twist didn't really bother me too much because I never held the character of the Mandarin so dearly. And really, all the talk around here about spoilers and even that thread discussing specifically HT figure character spoilers, probably made the twist much less impactful. And I made sure I avoided everything having to do with Iron Man when all that spoiler talk started popping up. But just all this excessive spoiler talk I guess made me expect a twist to happen.

I guess they could have made Guy Pearce's character Asian, so him being the "real" Mandarin might have not seemed so out of left field. But eh, I thought the movie worked well enough and I thought Guy was good in the role. I did think he was channeling Val Kilmer, though! The whole Mandarin/Trevor thing is not really an issue, IMO. Killian is the real Mandarin, and he was just as evil and threatening as one would expect. But I think there is also room for another type of Mandarin to emerge in a later story line. There could always be another character, or even the "true" Mandarin, step forward as the real head of the 10 Rings.

I normally don't like kid sidekicks, but I thought this one worked well. The kid wasn't annoying or "Hollywood-y". Just to put it in perspective, I think Short Round in Temple of Doom is annoying, and I LOVE Indiana Jones.

I did think the beginning was a little choppy and clumsy. It smoothed out once the attack on the mansion started. And I thought they rushed the end when Tony narrated that Pepper was "fixed" and he had his surgery. The only thing that bothered me was the fact that his chest reactor didn't seem to be able to power the suit. I see that the 42 is mostly self-powered (as are the rest of the new suits), but I see no reason why once the suit is on Tony that the suit couldn't draw some of the power from Tony's arc reactor. And someone else mentioned that the purpose of the arc reactor seems to have changed from the first two movies seeming to be more about being a kind of pace maker from Tony, to this one being (what it was supposed to be all along) a magnet to keep the shrapnel from shifting into his heart. And I also thought that perhaps he could have kept an arc reactor on him even after the shrapnel was taken away, just so he could have extra energy for his suits. I was hoping the after credit scene would show Tony's face talking and pan down to reveal that he still had an arc reactor.

But I'm able to let it slide because the movie worked well overall despite these little things that bothered me. It's not like the other two didn't have any problems either. I don't think this movie is anywhere near as bad as Spiderman 3 or X Men 3 (which I thought were embarrassingly bad). And I think it's better than Crystal Skull (which I liked).

I'll definitely put this one ahead of #2, which I did enjoy as well. I'm still not sure how it compares to #1. The action was definitely better than the first one, but I also was fine with the amount of action in #1. I personally like it when the hero shows he's more than just his "super power". So I did enjoy Tony resorting to using his mind to build tactical gear for his raid on Vizcaya. I'll have to watch 1 again to see how it compares. It really felt like the end of a trilogy, though. Even the end credits covered all 3 movies in their visuals. I'll be very disappointed if this is truly the end of the RDJ Iron Man series.

My favorite line: "Honestly, I hate working here. Everyone here is so weird."

See, this is were i'm split on this movie, there are arguments to be made that actually helps both sides of the love/hate feelings this movie has generated.

Much more so than usual.

 

[Bmutha]

This happened to a lesser extent in the first one. The MK3 couldn't be fully powered because it was designed with the newer Arc Reactor, not the original one he was forced to use after Obi stole it. Granted, he was still able to use the suit before exhausting the power source.

In the first movie the the Mk.3 was running out of power during the final battle because his arc reactor was the proto one he replaced from the caves. Than he rebuilds the one Obi stole to power Monger and thats killing him in 2 so he creates the new element and used that one at the end of 2. So that should have had no trouble powering the 42, which was as far as I can tell, a paper thin more portable version of the Mk.5 and 7. Honestly it just seemed so completely and totally useless as anything more than an emergency backup it's staggering that he would choose that armor going into battle. Apparently PTSD also makes you an idiot.

The 42 struck me as something that Iron Man 1 and 2 Tony would just have in his car as an airbag, it comes out and puts itself on in the event of an accident to make sure you don't bump your elbow and hurt your funnybone because it wasn't useful as anything more.

Yes, of course, you are both right...wasn't thinking straight. The suits, of course, run out of power routinely (otherwise, how to create suspense).

But, in general, in the first two movies and Aveners, when he puts on a suit, that suit is good to go until it runs out of power. So, the constantly having to recharge aspect of IM3 annoyed me.

 

[krec9]

I didnt give a **** about the twist the Mandarin was a joke anyway.I like what shane black did.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

That is the thing though, he didn't choose it for a main suit to go into battle with. His other main operational Marks were blown up by the first missile attack. The MK42 was mentioned as only being a prototype by JARVIS when the mansion is being blown up. The MK42 was a prototype for the remote operation of the suit and for Tony testing the individual armor parts. He didn't have time to go and get suited up before the explosion so that was the only option he had available since he could control all the armor parts. Since it was supposed to be a lab project prototype, he probably didn't have it wired to charge or run off his arc reactor yet.

Nice rationalization! I buy it.

 

[Samuraimasta]

Funny...to any sane and coherent adult, the lack of "IRON MAN" in an IRON MAN movie is just a simple fact.

However, the fact that people consider this the best of the 3 Iron Man movies just because there were 40 something different robots flying around is what seems juvenile. like a little child playing with all of his girly power ranger dolls.

welp congrats missing the point entirely and grasping at straws to make a comeback there sane rational adult . I never stated IM3 wasn't the best because of the *EPIC FINAL BATTLE* I'm saying people are *****ing about lack of ironman meanwhile there were plenty of scenes involving ironman suit and/or iron patriot one way or another throughout the movie, arguably more so then the first two IM. It's just a well made and funny movie in general without having Tony in his suit going pew pew every few seconds

 

[Deckard]

I think some of us were probably expecting more fights like War Machine and Iron Man togeather like IM2. I know I was hoping for an all out battle like that at the end. For all the *****ing people do about IM2 and the drones, imo they've yet to top this in Avengers or IM3 as far as seeing the suits in action :

[ame]https://youtu.be/MZWzf3h50LU[/ame]

 

[jye4ever]

I think some of us were probably expecting more fights like War Machine and Iron Man togeather like IM2. I know I was hoping for an all out battle like that at the end. For all the *****ing people do about IM2 and the drones, imo they've yet to top this in Avengers or IM3 as far as seeing the suits in action :

https://youtu.be/MZWzf3h50LU

Now that we lost out on IM/WM big battle in IM3, it sucks even more that WM didn't show up in Avengers.

I really was expecting an expanded team up battle similar to IM2 at the end of IM3, we got Tango and Cash instead.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Now that we lost out on IM/WM big battle in IM3, it sucks even more that WM didn't show up in Avengers.

I really was expecting an expanded team up battle similar to IM2 at the end of IM3, we got Tango and Cash instead.

I was also at a loss as to where War Machine was during the invasion sequence in the Avengers. I'd imagine Rhodey would've been flying in to assist his good buddy.

~~I guess Captain America and Nick Fury weren't in IM3 because they were hit with this sequester stuff going on.

 

[Natrix]

I think some of us were probably expecting more fights like War Machine and Iron Man togeather like IM2. I know I was hoping for an all out battle like that at the end. For all the *****ing people do about IM2 and the drones, imo they've yet to top this in Avengers or IM3 as far as seeing the suits in action :

https://youtu.be/MZWzf3h50LU

I'll agree with that. I really enjoyed 3 for the most part but War Machine/Iron Patriot really got the shaft and totally wasted an opportunity to let him shine at the end again.

 

[CelticPredator]

You guys are funny. I'm just saying.

And the best part about this movie was Tony Stark not relying on his suit. His break in to the Mandarin's compound was the great. As was the fight scene with the two guards. Probably the best action scene in a while.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

it sucks even more that WM didn't show up in Avengers.

Agreed it doesn't make sense in a time of crisis but he's not an Avenger.

Though i forget that people seem to want only Avenger movies from now on featuring Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, ****erella Widow, Captain America, Hawkeye, War Machine, Winter Soldier, Falcon, Heimdall, Lady Sif, Hogan, Fangrall, Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Prof X, Beast, Colossus, Rogue, Jean Grey, Kitty Pride, Spider-Man, Mr Fantastic, Sue Storm, Human Torch, The Thing, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil, Blade.

That's a recipe for success right there

 

[IrishJedi]

You guys are funny. I'm just saying.

Well, not all of us can leave our brains at the door like... you "normal people".

And the best part about this movie was Tony Stark not relying on his suit. His break in to the Mandarin's compound was the great.

Yeah, that was awesome.

 

[CREG Customs]

But, in general, in the first two movies and Aveners, when he puts on a suit, that suit is good to go until it runs out of power. So, the constantly having to recharge aspect of IM3 annoyed me.

Yeah but a car battery? I'm suposed to believe that a car battery can charge the suit faster than his arc reactor?

I'm not saying you're defending it - just pointing it out.

 

[CelticPredator]

Well, not all of us can leave our brains at the door like... you "normal people".

This is why it's funny.

I didn't say anyone was wrong. But man, everyone's hate is so off the charts, it's baffling. I mean...I can KINDA get some things, like the plot...which was eh from the get go...

But it seems to the problems everyone has is the lack of Iron Man, action, and comic stuff. Which don't bother me because RDJ is Iron Man, I care about the character, and I have no knowledge of the source material.

 

[CREG Customs]

Agreed it doesn't make sense in a time of crisis but he's not an Avenger.

Though i forget that people seem to want only Avenger movies from now on featuring Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, ****erella Widow, Captain America, Hawkeye, War Machine, Winter Soldier, Falcon, Heimdall, Lady Sif, Hogan, Fangrall, Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Prof X, Beast, Colossus, Rogue, Jean Grey, Kitty Pride, Spider-Man, Mr Fantastic, Sue Storm, Human Torch, The Thing, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil, Blade.

That's a recipe for success right there

That, or, you know, an Iron Man movie that is good.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Well, not all of us can leave our brains at the door like... you "normal people".

I'm perfectly willing for suspension of disbelief, but not to switching it on and off of the reality that they convinced me to believe in the first place.