Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Frank Jaeger]

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I don't have facebook but i can only imagine....

This is what happens when you have a pre-exsisting franchise that created masterpieces in the 90's that are still relevant and popular in current times

They forget about the foundations they build and in an effort to try and keep up with current technology taste they bend to the will of the uninformed, often *******ising everything that made it unique and nostalgic in the first place

It's happened to all the best, just look at Resi Evil & Silent Hill....

 

[Solidus]

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I don't have facebook but i can only imagine....

This is what happens when you have a pre-exsisting franchise that created masterpieces in the 90's that are still relevant and popular in current times

They forget about the foundations they build and in an effort to try and keep up with current technology taste they bend to the will of the uninformed, often *******ising everything that made it unique and nostalgic in the first place

It's happened to all the best, just look at Resi Evil & Silent Hill....

Brilliantly said.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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I don't have facebook but i can only imagine....

This is what happens when you have a pre-exsisting franchise that created masterpieces in the 90's that are still relevant and popular in current times

They forget about the foundations they build and in an effort to try and keep up with current technology taste they bend to the will of the uninformed, often *******ising everything that made it unique and nostalgic in the first place

It's happened to all the best, just look at Resi Evil & Silent Hill....

Well said brother, you nailed it.

Most MGS fans that were introduced to the first "Solid" game are all adults at this point, myself included. We've seen the series evolve in the last 20 years.

But now it just seems like were only catering to the younger newer gamers that probably never even played MGS1, or even MGS2.

Konami and Kojima could care less about the roots of the franchise that everyone latched onto in 1998. It's about revenue, and quarterly growth now... I've lost all respect for Kojima as a creator, he's going completely against what he originally intended.

He's either in it for the cash, or Konami is forcing his hand to stick with riding Snake Eater's gravy train of money.

 

[Frank Jaeger]

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Well said brother, you nailed it.

Most MGS fans that were introduced to the first "Solid" game are all adults at this point, myself included. We've seen the series evolve in the last 20 years.

But now it just seems like were only catering to the younger newer gamers that probably never even played MGS1, or even MGS2.

Konami and Kojima could care less about the roots of the franchise that everyone latched onto in 1998. It's about revenue, and quarterly growth now... I've lost all respect for Kojima as a creator, he's going completely against what he originally intended.

He's either in it for the cash, or Konami is forcing his hand to stick with riding Snake Eater's gravy train of money.

Funnily enough MGS3 was the least grossing out of the original MGS titles, hinting somewhat as to the preference of character and games

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Funnily enough MGS3 was the least grossing out of the original MGS titles, hinting somewhat as to the preference of character and games

You would think he would focus more on Snake seeing how he's half Japanese, although that is not the case.

I guess Snake Eater struck a nerve with a lot of people, and as a game it's better than MGS4.

If Snake Eater has Solid Snake as the main character, we would be playing GZ/TPP or w/e they're called as Snake.

I'm just sick of Kojima acting as if Snake never existed. He keeps saying "he's not done with Solid." I think it's complete BS at this point.

 

[krec9]

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man what bull****, I can't believe he potentially doesn't want Hayter for Snake anymore. Probably means that it is the end of Solid Snake, at least the Solid we know.

He really nailed his own casket. Big Boss ruined MGS

Maybe Kojima had a falling out with hayter who knows what happened.

 

[GasparZizou]

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Retardation at it's finest, ciao.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Retardation at it's finest, ciao.

Are you trolling or you actually trying to bring something to the conversation?

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

I think he realized that you guys might have been talking about him. Oh well

Sent from the Shell by codec.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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If you want to know the intelligence of the average MGS gamer, read Facebook comments.

What's over there? Epic awesome mindblowing fantastic best game ever amazing genius Big Boss epic epic epic??

 

[Dead-Man]

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Jeremy discusses the trailer

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ3iZ2zqLPw[/ame]

 

[Jameson Rook]

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Jeremy discusses the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ3iZ2zqLPw

Like many casual fans, Jeremy got the timeline wrong, but at least it wasn't worse than that IGN speculation video <shudder>

 

[Mogli]

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Wow, I'm a bit surprised by all the negativity here after that new trailer. I understand many of the opinions, and agree with some. I'm a huge MGS fan, it's one of my favorite series of all time (even if I get some continuity/story issues wrong). I prefer Solid Snake over Big Boss in terms of story and such, but playing as Big Boss doesn't hurt the gameplay of the games for me.

I'm more excited for MGSV/Phantom Pain than any other game right now, and I don't think that's because I'm ignorant or unappreciative of the first games in the series. If someone thinks I don't like MGS1, they clearly don't know me well. I think one can like the new games and the old ones. Even if Kojima or whoever messes up the story or continuity, it doesn't affect my appreciation of the original games in the slightest.

I remember people said Kojima ruined the series with Raiden and the plot of MGS2, but I thought it was one of the best games I ever played. People said Kojima hated Snake and was ruining the series with Big Boss when MGS3 came out, but I enjoyed everything about that game, including playing as Big Boss. And even with the controversial choices in story, I'll never forget MGS4 (the return to Shadow Moses will be stuck in my head forever, brought back all my nostalgia for MGS1), and the themes of aging and nearing the end really meant a lot to me.

I think Kojima is still a brilliant game designer, and the gameplay stuff he comes up with is part of the reason I love the series so much, not just the story. I played MGS1, 2 and 3 combined for probably longer than any other game series, just experimenting and having fun with the AI and stuff. And I'm still replaying MGS4.

I can't blame Kojima for leaving Solid Snake out of the series for so long, even if it did frustrate me for many years. I think despite what has been said, Kojima never intended to flesh out his story more than it has been, and MGS4 signaled to me Kojima wanted to move on from Snake. I'm actually fine with that in some ways, because if Kojima really is running out of ideas, I'd prefer he experiment with Big Boss rather than ruin the image of Snake. A part of me suspects that's what Kojima's thinking is as well.

I suppose I'm in it for the gameplay just as much as the stories (I find it difficult to separate the two), and as much as some people hate his stories, I'm greatly amused by the weirdness of it all, along with the moments of greatness that come through.

Not arguing with you guys, and I'll probably never post here again as I don't like arguing back and forth. Just wanted to throw my views out there. Being excited for the new games doesn't mean you're an idiot or not a "true fan" of the series. In my own opinion, just like some of you probably think, I'm the biggest MGS fan in the world.

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

I agree with you to some extent but I don't think that's what people were saying we just want kojima to get off Big boss ****. Snake is now an afterthought as it seems. We kinda need a break from him for a while. Rising was a breath of fresh air with some sort of innovation. They could have brought snake back in a big way but no. Its Bb again..............its like getting perpetually stuck in level18 vr missions on revengeance mode and you never know when its going to end


Sent from the Shell by codec.

 

[Mogli]

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I agree with you to some extent but I don't think that's what people were saying we just want kojima to get off Big boss ****. Snake is now an afterthought as it seems. We kinda need a break from him for a while. Rising was a breath of fresh air with some sort of innovation. They could have brought snake back in a big way but no. Its Bb again..............its like getting perpetually stuck in level18 vr missions on revengeance mode and you never know when its going to end


Sent from the Shell by codec.

Yes, I understand that feeling, I also felt that way for a long time (and still do really), since Snake is one of my favorite characters of all time, not with just videogames. I've just convinced myself we'll probably never play as Snake again, as sad as that is.

I was more addressing the attitude that if you're excited about MGSV/TPP, that means you either don't like the old games or are a simpleton in some way, and I think that's just wrong. Maybe no one here was saying that, and in that case, my above post is directed towards no one.

But thanks for realizing I wasn't just trying to insult people here, sometimes I sound that way when I don't intend to.

 

[Dead-Man]

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I Haven't Played MGS1, Worth the download on PSN? what's keeping me from playing it is the Dated Graphics, wish they made an HD of the Twin Snakes

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

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good games have nothing to do with graphics if you can get into them. if you havent played 1 and have played 4 shadow moses doesnt mean anything really. the game is so good youre missing out. i will start it anytime.

 

[Jameson Rook]

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I Haven't Played MGS1, Worth the download on PSN? what's keeping me from playing it is the Dated Graphics, wish they made an HD of the Twin Snakes

Oh wow, that should be illegal. You'll adjust to the graphics in no time.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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What's over there? Epic awesome mindblowing fantastic best game ever amazing genius Big Boss epic epic epic??

Your so close to the actual comments I swear

I Haven't Played MGS1, Worth the download on PSN? what's keeping me from playing it is the Dated Graphics, wish they made an HD of the Twin Snakes

You got to be ****ting me. It's probably the best download of the PSN next to Final Fantasy VII.

And to Mogli's point.

We don't hate Big Boss at all, we just need a break from him. Snake should be thrown in there to break up the rut the franchise is in.

After playing MGR, I really enjoyed it but I don't take the game seriously in terms of the story being linked to the actual franchise. It also doesn't do anything to retcon the story. It's fresh and can go where it wants without and barriers really.

We just need to give Snake some more face time.

The common thing people say, especially on Facebook is that his story is over to shut up about him... is it really? How do we know? His military career goes back to the Gulf War. We could get MSX remakes, or a game that's between MGS1 and MGS2 or between MGS2 and MGS4.

If a game like MPO and PW can be given a green light, why not that?

 

[TheProcrastinator]

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Everything about MGS V that has been described in this thread as sacrilegious or horrible, is exactly the reason I more excited for this game than any Konami title in years.

Following the previews for MGS V reminded me of the times of MGS 2 back in 2000, when the whole world watched jaw-dropped, the presentations at E3 and the amount of ideas that Kojima was throwing at them.

MGS V is the first Metal Gear Solid game in YEARS, f-*** the first game since Snake Eater, where You can really see Kojima is heavily into it. He is excited, he is involved, he is full of fresh ideas. And pretty big ideas too. And when Kojima is thinking big, that means we can expect some pretty exciting things. All of MGS V so far truly has that next-gen feel to it, like seldom other games today do.

Not everybody knows this, but Metal Gear Solid was never intended to be a series, never designed as a franchise or a traditional, continious storyline. Kojima made all the sequels, becouse fans demanded it, but he himself, always treated each game as a separate, independent stylistic experiment. And the redesign, the reboot, the changes that he brings to the table this time, mean that he has an idea for this game, and he is coming back to MGS becouse he wants to, not becouse that's whats ecpected of him.

I don't give a rats *** about Hayter. I like him, but he is not a professional actor, and there are many who belive his work to be caricaturally over the top. And while I can totally understand that those who actually like his voicework, might be heavily dissapointed in his abscence, but to call Kojima an ******* or an idiot becouse of this one change, not knowing anything about the plans that he has for us, or what the new actor might bring to the table....well that's just simply idiotic and the level of butt-hurt fanboy whining in this thread is quite amazing.