Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
we touched upon this way back in the thread my friend.
we touched upon this way back in the thread my friend.
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
That's what I gathered too. GZ and TPP are just two chapters in the same game like the Virtuous Mission and Operation Snake Eater.
This has got to be the most underwhelming entry in the main series for me. I don't have the same excitement in any stretch of the imagination.
That's what I gathered too. GZ and TPP are just two chapters in the same game like the Virtuous Mission and Operation Snake Eater.
This has got to be the most underwhelming entry in the main series for me. I don't have the same excitement in any stretch of the imagination.
TheProcrastinator
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
James Bond movies don't follow a specific canon. The MGS games do. Each actor in Bond portrays their own separate storylines - perhaps even alternate universes. Don't try to draw analogies where there aren't any
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James Bond movies don't follow a specific canon. The MGS games do. Each actor in Bond portrays their own separate storylines - perhaps even alternate universes. Don't try to draw analogies where there aren't any
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Bond sequels aren't sequels and none were really tied together. MGS games are it's that simple. Changing the main lead at this point seems very counteractive to the whole formula.
It's like keeping James Earl Jones for New Hope and Empire and then getting a completely different voice for Jedi.
Bond sequels aren't sequels and none were really tied together. MGS games are it's that simple. Changing the main lead at this point seems very counteractive to the whole formula.
It's like keeping James Earl Jones for New Hope and Empire and then getting a completely different voice for Jedi.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
im thinkin pizza, thatll be tastier than this guys sour attitude............................you should lick a tree you hippee.
im thinkin pizza, thatll be tastier than this guys sour attitude............................you should lick a tree you hippee.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Really? Man, I haven't been checking this thread very frequently..
I like the graphics. And I want to know who's that dude with the scarred face. But besides that, yeah, this seems like such an underwhelming chapter. I'm nowhere as excited for this game, as I was for when MGS 4 was first announced.
Really? Man, I haven't been checking this thread very frequently..
I like the graphics. And I want to know who's that dude with the scarred face. But besides that, yeah, this seems like such an underwhelming chapter. I'm nowhere as excited for this game, as I was for when MGS 4 was first announced.
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cmon guys on a serious note. this games gonna be aaaaaaaaawesome. i cant wait!!!! hip hop hooray!
cmon guys on a serious note. this games gonna be aaaaaaaaawesome. i cant wait!!!! hip hop hooray!
Science Friction
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I think Phantom Pain could actually be a reference to the clones. Hang with me for a second. Think about it. Your genetic material has been "cut away" from you, right? I mean, they are clones of you, a part of you in a sense. I hope so, because time wise it would line up, and it would make for a very interesting psychological aspect. Not limb, pain, my bad!
I think Phantom Pain could actually be a reference to the clones. Hang with me for a second. Think about it. Your genetic material has been "cut away" from you, right? I mean, they are clones of you, a part of you in a sense. I hope so, because time wise it would line up, and it would make for a very interesting psychological aspect. Not limb, pain, my bad!
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wwwwuuwuuu.............um...........just...wait. im confused.
wwwwuuwuuu.............um...........just...wait. im confused.
TheProcrastinator
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
That is true. But it also doesn't change the fact that a new Snake, might still work within the same universe, might be something good and refreshing. We don't really know what kind of changes will happen to Big Boss character in V, he could be quite a different person. Besides, Kojima himself said that yes, it is a sort of reboot. Even if it follows the same story and cannon, its still a reboot in som aspects, with a new, fresh feel that we are yet to see.
Secondly, the MGS "cannon" is much less tangible than You might think it is. Kojima multiple times stated, that he viewed each game as independent enities, even if the storyline appears to be continous (for example the events of MGS2 were not supposed to be taken completely literally, at least at the time when the game was writen). That is the main reason Kojima was dissapointed with MGS4, becouse that game happended couse fans demanded a continuation of MGS2 events, something that Kojima never considered 100% cannon. It's also why all the changes and fresh air in MGS V are so exciting. Becouse it looks like it brings back the vintige, excited, involved Kojima, who's full of ideas, rather than the conformist, slightly disinterested and tired one, that he was for the last couple of years.
And besides. Even if we consider the abscence of Hayter to be a jarring, sudden change that is "counteractive to the whole formula", then it still doesn't mean the new voice-work will be bad. If the new guy is awesome, then I won't really mind the fact that his voice clashes with that of Hayter. Whining about Kojima and calling him an idiot or an *******, becouse of this change, before we even get our hands on the game, is silly.
James Bond movies don't follow a specific canon. The MGS games do. Each actor in Bond portrays their own separate storylines - perhaps even alternate universes. Don't try to draw analogies where there aren't any
That is true. But it also doesn't change the fact that a new Snake, might still work within the same universe, might be something good and refreshing. We don't really know what kind of changes will happen to Big Boss character in V, he could be quite a different person. Besides, Kojima himself said that yes, it is a sort of reboot. Even if it follows the same story and cannon, its still a reboot in som aspects, with a new, fresh feel that we are yet to see.
Secondly, the MGS "cannon" is much less tangible than You might think it is. Kojima multiple times stated, that he viewed each game as independent enities, even if the storyline appears to be continous (for example the events of MGS2 were not supposed to be taken completely literally, at least at the time when the game was writen). That is the main reason Kojima was dissapointed with MGS4, becouse that game happended couse fans demanded a continuation of MGS2 events, something that Kojima never considered 100% cannon. It's also why all the changes and fresh air in MGS V are so exciting. Becouse it looks like it brings back the vintige, excited, involved Kojima, who's full of ideas, rather than the conformist, slightly disinterested and tired one, that he was for the last couple of years.
And besides. Even if we consider the abscence of Hayter to be a jarring, sudden change that is "counteractive to the whole formula", then it still doesn't mean the new voice-work will be bad. If the new guy is awesome, then I won't really mind the fact that his voice clashes with that of Hayter. Whining about Kojima and calling him an idiot or an *******, becouse of this change, before we even get our hands on the game, is silly.
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
The Phantom Pain sounds like a good name for a wrestler.
The Phantom Pain sounds like a good name for a wrestler.
Science Friction
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Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Haha, it does actually. "They call me the Phantom Pain, because you're gonna feel this pain for the rest of your life". Or something like that.
Haha, it does actually. "They call me the Phantom Pain, because you're gonna feel this pain for the rest of your life". Or something like that.
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HA HA HA 
Haha, it does actually. "They call me the Phantom Pain, because you're gonna feel this pain for the rest of your life". Or something like that.
HA HA HA 
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Wow lol WTF is going on in here? For the record there can never been enough Snake period. Whether its solid,liquid,solidus,naked whatever,there just cannot ever be enough,the more the better. Also Im in the "Hayter or Die" camp,he has been Snakes' since the beginning and Id like to hear him as Snake till the end.
@TheProcrastinator Could you imagine if George Lucus decided "Hey, I think for the next Star Wars movie we should use Ben Affleck as the voice for Vader"? or SSM "Hey, Kratos voice needs an update,lets see if we can get one of them Twilight mutha****as to voice him"............Mutha****as would go bananas! Hayter is Snaaaaaaaaaake!
Wow lol WTF is going on in here? For the record there can never been enough Snake period. Whether its solid,liquid,solidus,naked whatever,there just cannot ever be enough,the more the better. Also Im in the "Hayter or Die" camp,he has been Snakes' since the beginning and Id like to hear him as Snake till the end.
@TheProcrastinator Could you imagine if George Lucus decided "Hey, I think for the next Star Wars movie we should use Ben Affleck as the voice for Vader"? or SSM "Hey, Kratos voice needs an update,lets see if we can get one of them Twilight mutha****as to voice him"............Mutha****as would go bananas! Hayter is Snaaaaaaaaaake!
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this guy is the george lucas of mgs, this procrastinator fella.
this guy is the george lucas of mgs, this procrastinator fella.
TheProcrastinator
Super Freak
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
There's one problem with what You just wrote. You used specific names as examples of voice changes. Sure Ben Affleck would be ridiculous as Vader. But we have no idea, how the new Snake will sound and what he will bring to the table. So drawing such analogies is beside the point.
There's one problem with what You just wrote. You used specific names as examples of voice changes. Sure Ben Affleck would be ridiculous as Vader. But we have no idea, how the new Snake will sound and what he will bring to the table. So drawing such analogies is beside the point.
Nobody here argued against it.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
dude get a job.
dude get a job.
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
I just remembered, it's rumored that Kojima is a big Twilight fan:
https://kotaku.com/5395393/hideo-kojima-a-huge-fan-of-twilight-will-judge-your-fan-art
I just remembered, it's rumored that Kojima is a big Twilight fan:
https://kotaku.com/5395393/hideo-kojima-a-huge-fan-of-twilight-will-judge-your-fan-art
TheProcrastinator
Super Freak
Re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
You do realize that posting such stuff all the time, without actually giving any arguments, is kinda working against You?
Also I find it slightly funny, that of all the supposed MGS FANATICS with all their Snake avatars and sigs, I seem to be one of the few people here, that are actually excited for what Kojima will bring us.
You do realize that posting such stuff all the time, without actually giving any arguments, is kinda working against You?
Also I find it slightly funny, that of all the supposed MGS FANATICS with all their Snake avatars and sigs, I seem to be one of the few people here, that are actually excited for what Kojima will bring us.
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