Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Solidus]

She's obviously being used as eye candy to help promote the game, in a similar way that Yumi Kikuchi was helping to promote MGS 4. Definitely not as hot as Yumi, though.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Erm, Boss, I don't think you're up to speed with what's going on in MGSV. Well, David is.. uhh.. say hello to Kiefer, for me Boss!

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I saw this the other day, The Boss... this is too much.. she is back, the feels

 

[Solidus]

"Go home (Lori Alan)"!

 

[pturtle]

Subtle trailer is smart, no need to spoil all of TPP like he did Ground Zeroes.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

I'd have to say, that Big Boss's story was largely mishandled for the most part. It's one thing that he's always referred to as "Snake", but his name is also Jack - just like Raiden's . It's like his entire concept was structured upon copying the elements of characters who came before him, prior to MGS 3.

He has Snake's personality down to a t - even to the extent that he's even using Snake's catch-phrases like, "kept you waiting, huh?". His military career was also spent fighting Metal Gears - just like Snake's. And I think his name being Jack is used an implication to his naivete. After all, Big Boss often presents himself as a confused odd-ball, similar to how Raiden was portrayed in MGS 2.

On that note, as much as I **** on the direction for MGS GZ, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how much Big Boss has actually changed. It's like for the first time ever, he's getting a game where is personality is going to be distinct from Solid Snake's.

In any case, I had the time to read back at some of the latest comments in this thread. It's very easy to dismiss the non-fans as confusing Snake and Big Boss. But, it's not a exactly good marketing strategy when people can't tell the characters apart. The sheer weirdness of it, might actually turn some people off of this series.

That "Kept you waiting, huh" really bugged me, and it still does. That's Solid Snake's line! What I liked about Peace Walker's story, they could have just been told in a quick recap before MGSV, because I dislike how the character was handled as well. I couldn't really see it as the intended MGSV. It was more of a kooky "What if?" just to get another game. It's great for those quick gameplay bursts, so I can't complain, since I played so much. I would have argued that the similarities were a coincidence between him and Raiden, but pointing that out about his concept being structured upon copying other characters, bugs me now. Previously, I thought his John Doe name was because he completely gave up his identity to the battlefield, and it might not have even been his real name. There was also the connection with the JD artificial intelligence core. Although Jack is a nickname for John, and wouldn't make sense to have a nickname for a code name, I thought it might have been a joke, and then it stuck. I know there's a bunch of info out there online dealing with his name and the "Jack T. Miles" thing.

The people that confuse them though, do you think they would play the games for the story to begin with, otherwise I would think you'd want to start from the beginning. However explaining it is difficult because I end up calling him Big Boss, even though he wasn't Big Boss at that point, and when I try to use Jack, it gets confused with Raiden.

I'm glad you're looking for to MGSV, and I really hope they do a fantastic job with his character development.

 

[Solidus]

That "Kept you waiting, huh" really bugged me, and it still does. That's Solid Snake's line! What I liked about Peace Walker's story, they could have just been told in a quick recap before MGSV, because I dislike how the character was handled as well. I couldn't really see it as the intended MGSV. It was more of a kooky "What if?" just to get another game. It's great for those quick gameplay bursts, so I can't complain, since I played so much. I would have argued that the similarities were a coincidence between him and Raiden, but pointing that out about his concept being structured upon copying other characters, bugs me now. Previously, I thought his John Doe name was because he completely gave up his identity to the battlefield, and it might not have even been his real name. There was also the connection with the JD artificial intelligence core. Although Jack is a nickname for John, and wouldn't make sense to have a nickname for a code name, I thought it might have been a joke, and then it stuck. I know there's a bunch of info out there online dealing with his name and the "Jack T. Miles" thing.

The people that confuse them though, do you think they would play the games for the story to begin with, otherwise I would think you'd want to start from the beginning. However explaining it is difficult because I end up calling him Big Boss, even though he wasn't Big Boss at that point, and when I try to use Jack, it gets confused with Raiden.

I'm glad you're looking for to MGSV, and I really hope they do a fantastic job with his character development.

Jack T. Miles? That's the first time I'm hearing about that name.

Yeah, I'm at least happy that MGS V will finally set Big Boss on the course toward his downfall - becoming the metaphorical "monster" that was depicted in MG 1 and 2. It seems like he has been playing identity theft with Solid Snake and Raiden.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Wow Jack T. Milles I haven't heard that bogus name in years, for a while I actually thought it was real

 

[Snake Plissken]

Erm, Boss, I don't think you're up to speed with what's going on in MGSV. Well, David is.. uhh.. say hello to Kiefer, for me Boss!

Without a doubt, she played the most powerful female role in gaming.

 

[pturtle]

Without a doubt, she played the most powerful female role in gaming.

What I like about her character is she's tough, and really just as intimidating as any male character in gaming and it doesn't come off as forced. I hate how most developers are creating female leads today just to prove a point, and then have to discuss it in every interview.


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[J3D1_KN1GHT]

Probably more flashbacks of her previous exploits. One thing I liked about Peace Walker was that they brought back the Boss in the tapes which was pretty deep.

I don't think I cared much about that Jazz when I did Peace Walker. Must go back and play more thoroughly but HD this time.
GZ really got me into listening to the tapes and that. Never really cared before in the past.

 

[Snake Plissken]

What I like about her character is she's tough, and really just as intimidating as any male character in gaming and it doesn't come off as forced. I hate how most developers are creating female leads today just to prove a point, and then have to discuss it in every interview.


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I feel the exact same way about her. She was made to be just as tough as any man, and then some. I love when she drops Big Boss and Volgin back to back

I still don't think Big Boss beat her...

 

[pturtle]

I don't think anyone beats her, she's the Michael Jordan of the MGS series. Maybe a more mature Big Boss and primed Solid, but I still don't know.


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[J3D1_KN1GHT]

I wouldn't put it past Krazy Koji to bring her back for V.
Fake Death Pill.
Fake Big Boss finds out and goes crazy.
Krazy Koji.
Not so Big Boss, more average size.

It's not like he cares about cannon.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Caring about canon went out the door 10 years ago

 

[J3D1_KN1GHT]

Man I could slap that Man!

 

[Frank Jaeger]

Not so Big Boss, more average size.

I lol'd at this

The idea of 'canon' to Koji is a gun

 

[J3D1_KN1GHT]

God damn it now all I can hear is that stupid sample that Don Cannon uses "The Cannon" from whatever bloody game it comes from Madden/Fight Night.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

What I like about her character is she's tough, and really just as intimidating as any male character in gaming and it doesn't come off as forced. I hate how most developers are creating female leads today just to prove a point, and then have to discuss it in every interview.

I agree completely! Show, don't tell. Easily one of the greatest video game characters. I wish the rest of the Cobra unit was as interesting as her. The amount of times the Pain and the Fear said their names, I thought someone was going to throw one of those Pokemon balls at them.

 

[pturtle]

Holy crap! just noticed this while Watching X2

Stryker’ s soldiers are literally wearing Solid Snake’s sneaking suit from MGS1. How the heck did I just realize this now?

With David Hayter partially writing the script, this can’t be a coincidence. If anyone can find a better pic, please post it.