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It's coming, and Platinum can have all my money.



Himself. I mean, Gene. It's funny how he sounds exactly the same in every role he plays. :lol

He was also the rocket peace guy from Peace Walker. The Professor. Or whatever his name was.

Gotcha, I thought he was Gene. It's been awhile since I played MPO, but I can hear his voice saying "Army's Heaven." He does sound like Wolverine in everything :lol
 
Now there's a million dollar idea! You must tweet that to him :lol.

I was just thinking about that. Since MGS is the Star Wars of videogames and will not die, just let Platinum do Rising 2 and ZOE 3 already, we know they can handle it. It sucks hearing from Kojima that ZOE3 is "in the works" since 2005.

I bet kids nowadays don't even know ZOE.

Gotcha, I thought he was Gene. It's been awhile since I played MPO, but I can hear his voice saying "Army's Heaven." He does sound like Wolverine in everything :lol

He was also all the guards and doctors in Arkham Asylum. :lol
 
So... there is something I can't take out of my head.

I've been thinking about "1984" and I remembered something. Orwell's book.



The plot of 1984 (for the people that never heard about it)





Sounds a lot like Metal Gear right? :lol



It reminds me of MGS2. Sons of Liberty is this Generation's "1984" and it brings me back to thinking if the similarities between MGS2 and MGSV actually mean something...

(Big Shell/Mother Base, Ground Zeroes/Tanker Incident etc)


Good read ding dings!
 
Called it some time ago. The only way i could play GZ with some excitement is that "Snake" might not really Snake at all. It's way too big of a personality change to just have him so reserved.

Also, why have two codenames? Punished and Venom Snake. It doesn't make sense to have Big Boss be called "Venom" Snake when the 2 marketing of this game has already established him as "Punished" Snake.

In case any of you didn't know, you never played as Snake in the tanker in MGS2. That was Raiden.


I always thought that was a misinterpretation, you are taking something symbolic (Raiden is the player) and you are using it as an actual part of the canon, Raiden just represents the player thats why the Colonel says "this is your first infiltration mission" if you didn't play the Tanker, thats because its trully the player's first time, plus..

If you throw the russians to the sea the cypher will take pictures of that and it will be shown later in the story

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So that mission was real, the Tanker Incident happened, and we got to play as Snake. This is just my opinion though

btw (the flashback of Snake using the famas is not proof that it was VR, the game doesn't need to have a deep explanation for every little thing imho and using different images for a flashback is not uncommon)

It was and it wasn't. I mean you were playing as Snake during it, but at the same time Raiden was supposed to be the avatar of the "Player" so in turn we played as Snake during The Tanker, but it was Raiden doing the VR mission parallel to Snake doing his mission.

MGS2 is convoluted slightly and can be a little perplexing to a person who has never played it before. But after digesting the game for over a decade, it's definitely the "smartest" MGS.


:goodpost::exactly:
And that is EXACTLY what I mean

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Its sad that he tried to leave a similar message for MGS1 but it was way too subtle... and most people didn't get it, Snake in MGS1 had the same ending Raiden had in MGS2

MGS 2 was a game that was completely lost to me when I first played it, and it took another decade for me to appreciate it for what it was. But, I find it truly amazing that I still haven't fully delved into everything as yet.

Even today people hate it because they don't get it :lol damn I feel bad about kojima, the game was WAY too ahead of its time




BTW IMHO the guy who made the "MGS2 Critical-Close up" took half the things he said he from other people that actually made a GREAT analysis, and overall I think he didn't make the best critical close up of the game, its like he played the game ONCE and simply started reading a lot of stuff about the game... (he doesn't even know the bandana is in MGS2 too) at least he gives links to the good stuff


This is good stuff

This one made a real FORMAL analysis of the game
https://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/DOTM_TOC.htm

This one made a complete breakdown of the game and every major aspect related to the game
https://metagearsolid.org/mgs2-articles/

Those guys did a great job :clap
 
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Even today people hate it because they don't get it :lol damn I feel bad about kojima, the game was WAY too ahead of its time




BTW the guy that made the "MGS2 Critical-Close up" took half the things he said he from others that actually made a GREAT analysis, and overall I think he didn't make the best critical close up of the game, its like he played the game ONCE and simply started reading a lot of stuff about the game... (he doesn't even know the bandana is in MGS2 too) at least he gives links to the good stuff


This is good stuff

This one made a real FORMAL analysis of the game
https://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/DOTM_TOC.htm

This one made a complete breakdown of the game and every major aspect related to the game
https://metagearsolid.org/mgs2-articles/

Those guys did a great job :clap

A bit off-topic, but it really makes me think that advent of the Internet has made things significantly easier for gamers; in comparison to the 90s and early 2000's - before there were dedicated gaming forums and online encyclopedias of information. Now days, it's less rewarding for someone to spend grueling amounts of time to ponder about story lines by themselves, when they can just easily check the information from a website (or even Wikipedia).

It's mainly the reason, for why I don't regularly watch guys like YongYea. I understand that multitudes of people appreciate his critical analyses of MGS. But, what he's essentially doing, is compiling information from bits and pieces of other people's theories from the Internet, and condensing them into short videos. It takes away from the moral significance of self-discovery, and piecing together the puzzle of confusion by yourself (which can take years). So, suppose if MGS 2 was released in the last several months, instead of Fall 2002. Yong and his ilk would have already posted YouTube videos of analyses, and dissected every mystery, every Easter Egg - and practically bit of information within a few weeks. It would have immediately depreciated the replay value of MGS 2, and made into something less special than it is today.

Personally, I never confer with second-hand information on MGS. That is, unless I'm talking to you guys on SSF - because it's fun discussing MGS with your friends :lol. I'm sorry for the rant. But, it seems like kids now days can't even be bothered to think for themselves when YouTube can do it for them. Maybe I'm just getting older....

I was just thinking about that. Since MGS is the Star Wars of videogames and will not die, just let Platinum do Rising 2 and ZOE 3 already, we know they can handle it. It sucks hearing from Kojima that ZOE3 is "in the works" since 2005.

I bet kids nowadays don't even know ZOE.

:goodpost:

Platinum would do a fantastic job with ZOE 3. It seems like Kojima's stuck with MGS until the end of time.
 
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I'm the same way :lol thats why I don't really appreciate those kind of videos, I look at them sometimes. But I never look at Easter Eggs and gameplay stuff, and I hardly ever read stuff about videogames especially since I barely respect this industry's dumb journalism

But MGS2 is special, by now I think I'm aware of most of the nice easter eggs, secrets and other gameplay stuff you all know, I've been playing that game for a long time now but its good to have a good read about this deep stuff once in a while. There aren't other games with such important and relevant topics, and I read stuff even if I know I don't have the same opinion as the writer I learned a long time ago that other people with different points of view may notice things you totally missed, thats why I read that stuff
 
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Damn, can't download it until i get out of work!


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I don't think you can download it, cause it's IGN not a dedicated streaming website, so I guess you just watch it? Idk :lol

I just watched it and it runs and looks fine, and I don't have an account on IGN

Were you trying to use one of those softwares to download videos from youtube and such?
 
I don't think you can download it, cause it's IGN not a dedicated streaming website, so I guess you just watch it? Idk :lol

I just watched it and it runs and looks fine, and I don't have an account on IGN

Were you trying to use one of those softwares to download videos from youtube and such?

That's not good enough, buddy. You really need a media player backed up by a powerful CPU and GPU to encode all those high bitrate goodness.

I use Keepvid to download Youtube videos btw.



Anyway, you can do a torrent download here:

https://www.gamersyde.com/download_...antom_pain_full_e3_demo_60_fps_-32493_en.html

Be warned though, it's HUGE, a whopping 6474.18 MB!

You really need a powerful PC to even run the video in all its' glory. To save the hassle of late frames, underpowered hardware, scaling and post processing, just watch it on a PS3. :hi5:
 
Yup, my computer certainly can’t run that. Could it work using the IGN app on my PS4?
 
That's not good enough, buddy. You really need a media player backed up by a powerful CPU and GPU to encode all those high bitrate goodness.

I use Keepvid to download Youtube videos btw.



Anyway, you can do a torrent download here:

https://www.gamersyde.com/download_...antom_pain_full_e3_demo_60_fps_-32493_en.html

Be warned though, it's HUGE, a whopping 6474.18 MB!

You really need a powerful PC to even run the video in all its' glory. To save the hassle of late frames, underpowered hardware, scaling and post processing, just watch it on a PS3. :hi5:

Holy cow, you know a lot about video and audio, I have some knowledge about audio and sound due to some amateur producing, but you clearly have your stuff together, do you do anything related to audio and video for a living? If I may ask? Or are you just a fan?

Thanks for the advise btw, will give Keepvid a try, how big of a PC do I need though? Mine's still pretty capable of running recent games at max.
 
Yup, my computer certainly can’t run that. Could it work using the IGN app on my PS4?

Short answer no. Streaming is pre-encoded to run as smoothly as possible so a lot of bitrate is lost.

Holy cow, you know a lot about video and audio, I have some knowledge about audio and sound due to some amateur producing, but you clearly have your stuff together, do you do anything related to audio and video for a living?

Thanks for the advise btw, will give Keepvid a try, how big of a PC do I need though? Mine's still pretty capable of running recent games at max.

I'm just an audio/videophile Gaspar. The only thing I did was some music video that got Platinum Games' attention because I was enduring a nasty breakup at the time. :lol

I think if your PC can run recent games, you can definitely run HD videos in stunning quality. You'll need Windows Media Player Classic, MadVR, and FFDshow first and foremost. :hi5:

This is my crappy PC running the TPP demo off a puny Youtube download:

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