MMS Diecast - Iron Man: 1/6th scale Mark III Collectible Figure

[duo_maxwell_1017]

Does it apply to the 43? I thought you couldn't use it.

That went up for pre order months ago. It should be eligible.

 

[Motuxmen]

This forum has a strange definition of what a repaint is.

Let an old timer explain it for you, and I'm qualified to do it because I was collecting figures before the process of repainting figures even existed.

Repaints are when a company takes a figure that was released in order to represent a character from a movie and then they "re-paint" it in a way that it doesn't really represent a figure from the movie.


Kenner started it, McFarland abused it.

Hot toys does market re-paints but not as many as most of you think

Midas is not a repaint, he's a faithfully representation of a character from the movie, it's not Hot Toys fault the studious used the same armor and just painted it differently.


The Gun Metal and Secrete project figures are text book repaints.

Mark 7 Stealth Mode is tricky, the concept is discussed in IM3 but not realized so I don't know how to call that one.


I also think if hilarious that 2 of the straight up repainted armors have the highest resell value.



BTW: I know if 3 armors based on the Mark 7- the original, Midas and SM, what are the other 2?

It appears that after 40 years you are still confused then. A "repaint" has nothing to do with it its a new character or screen time or any of those. A repaint is when you take an existing mold or figure and..here's the confusing part..paint it in a different way. Hence the term. Re(to do again)Paint. You may be around stuff for 40 years. Doesn't mean you know a lot. It means you are older. I love how people collect things and somehow that means they understand how the build process work. Just becuase you collect cars doesn't make you a mechanic, just becuase you collect art doesn't mean your an artist, just becuase you collect baseball cards doesn't mean your an athlete..and just becuase you collect action figures doesn't mean you are an "authority" on how they are made. It means you collect. Yes it's possible to pick up some info along the way. Doesn't mean you are some wise old sage.

Again-a repaint is a figure that uses existing parts and the only difference is paint. Has nothing to do with if it was hinted at in a movie or even if it was the star. Mkvii stealth and mkvii are the exact same under the paint. That's a repaint.

And Kenner didn't start it. Mattel was and is the king of repaints. (Big Jim Cat is repainted to Battle Cat, he-man becomes faker ect...Mattel was reprinting in the 60s. Nearly every company does it.)

 

[LexiKon318]

Haha Midas and Stealth Mk VII are the two of the most repainty repaints to ever be repainted.

 

[AIR]

It appears that after 40 years you are still confused then. A "repaint" has nothing to do with it its a new character or screen time or any of those. A repaint is when you take an existing mold or figure and..here's the confusing part..paint it in a different way. Hence the term. Re(to do again)Paint. You may be around stuff for 40 years. Doesn't mean you know a lot. It means you are older. I love how people collect things and somehow that means they understand how the build process work. Just becuase you collect cars doesn't make you a mechanic, just becuase you collect art doesn't mean your an artist, just becuase you collect baseball cards doesn't mean your an athlete..and just becuase you collect action figures doesn't mean you are an "authority" on how they are made. It means you collect. Yes it's possible to pick up some info along the way. Doesn't mean you are some wise old sage.

Again-a repaint is a figure that uses existing parts and the only difference is paint. Has nothing to do with if it was hinted at in a movie or even if it was the star. Mkvii stealth and mkvii are the exact same under the paint. That's a repaint.

And Kenner didn't start it. Mattel was and is the king of repaints. (Big Jim Cat is repainted to Battle Cat, he-man becomes faker ect...Mattel was reprinting in the 60s. Nearly every company does it.)

 

[Motuxmen]

Haha Midas and Stealth Mk VII are the two of the most repainty repaints to ever be repainted.

Yep. No doubt.

 

[Boba Debt]

I'm not "wrong" about re-paints.

I was right in the middle of this because I sold action figures and collectables in the early 80's and early 90's

Most people were not complaining about repaints until Kenner started doing in after the Star Wars hype dies and figure collecting slowed down.

So they released repaints and people started to complain and argue about it. The term re-pain in reference to actions figures was coined in the early 90s


Up until now I can not think of a franchise were a studio created a different character from the same design where paint color was the only difference.

It's not Hot Toys fault Marvel did this and they are not selling repaints, they are selling faithful representations of a real character.


Repaints have a negative connotation and it is not right to ascribe that characteristic to a Hot Toys release that isn't a re-paint.

Complain all day about The Gun Metal and Secrete project but call Midas or this Mark 3 a repaint is not correct.

 

[AIR]

So let me get this straight, HT Midas is a faithful representation of a repaint of MK VII. Or more simply, a repaint.

 

[bullet1217]

What he means is that there is an actual IM suit called Midas or Mk 21...the Gunmetal, Secret Project, and Stealth Mode are repaints of the 3, 4 & 7. Neither of which have their own Mk Id...

Anyways...lets see some Ground Punching Pics!!!

 

[Manannin]

So let me get this straight, HT Midas is a faithful representation of a repaint of MK VII. Or more simply, a repaint.

I think both sides of the argument are right here.
Midas is a repaint no doubt, but that repaint was done by the designers of Iron Man 3.
Hot Toys have released a version of the armour as it appears in the movie, there's no other way they could do it that makes business sense.
If they had made a suit that was mostly the same as VII but had different proportions or something, there would be no end of moaning.
Yes it's a repaint, but that's what the 'real' one is.

 

[2littlemoney]

So let me get this straight, HT Midas is a faithful representation of a repaint of MK VII. Or more simply, a repaint.

yes, that's correct. we dont care who started the idea. the fact is both marvel and HT do a repaint and
both get advantage from it, so i think they dont mind customers commenting on it. right?

 

[Jaymas]

This is a weird argument about semantics. If the only difference between armors is the paint then it makes sense to call it a "repaint". I understand that the term could be taken as a pejorative term because of the way companies like Kenner once put out a billion batman figures that were all essentially the same figure but painted different colors. But the term does not have to be a pejorative one and, as it has been pointed out here already, if Midus in the film is essentially the same body as the Mark VII then you can't really blame HT for using the same mold and painting it accordingly to make Midus. But this is still technically a repaint, even though in doing so it correctly reflects the armor in the movie. It's just not a "repaint" in the sense of a toy company's desire to double dip and try to pass an old version of a toy off as "new". The only Iron Man figure that I know that is a "repaint" along those lines is the stealth armor because it never actually appeared in a film (though mentioned as an idea in IM3 and is in the comics). That figure is sold out, and I guess people thought this particular repaint of the Mark VII to create a stealth armor was worth it. So even here it may not really be a bad thing that the stealth armor is a repaint of the the MKVII. Again, this is all an argument over semantics where neither definition is wrong. The argument could be settle by admitting while the armors in question are all technically repaints the toy company had a good reason for doing so as the armor designs are reused in the films the same way.

 

[LexiKon318]

Pretty sure this discussion began because someone asked why the diecast Mark 3 is taking so long to come out relative to ones in the AOU line which have been early ... Then it became something else entirely. Haha

I'm sure people will be asking the same about Mark 45 and Hulkbuster in the future.

 

[Jaymas]

Pretty sure this discussion began because someone asked why the diecast Mark 3 is taking so long to come out relative to ones in the AOU line which have been early ... Then it became something else entirely. Haha

Yea, I didn't have the energy or interest to go back and figure out why this odd argument began on this thread. But, in regards to the question of why the AOU figures seem to be pushing ahead of the MkIII in terms of release and shipping I imagine it's just a matter of priority. I am sure they want to take advantage of the hype of AOU movie and ride that wake as long as they can before interest evens out. The interest in the MkIII isn't going to diminish and probably has stayed pretty even so it probably isn't as much as priority. That's my guess anyway for whatever that's worth. But at least my comment is actually about the MkIII

Like everyone else I can't wait till it ships and I can get it in hand. On a side note it looks like my Construction version of the MkIII I had on the waitlist has converted so I should be getting that one soon. That will feel like a nice little preview of the MkIII

 

[LexiKon318]

Just amused at how it began is all....somebody responded with the words repaint or reused parts then all hell broke loose haha

 

[bebe13junior]

MK III Diecast!!!!!


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[Bearded_Mayhem]

MK III Diecast!!!!!


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I WANT IT SO BAD!!!! When will it ship!? (back on topic right?)

 

[Jaymas]

Great pic which makes me glad I preordered it.

 

[VaderLives]

Got the email last week or so that my final flexpay payment is scheduled for the end of the month, so....soon, hopefully?

 

[Bearded_Mayhem]

Got the email last week or so that my final flexpay payment is scheduled for the end of the month, so....soon, hopefully?

yeah, I talked with Sideshow today, they said this month but not sure when, also not sure if it will be the full shipment or a split shipment. sigh.

 

[Motuxmen]

Just amused at how it began is all....somebody responded with the words repaint or reused parts then all hell broke loose haha

That was me that responded first with those words. But it's true. Comparing the mk3 DC to the Aou Cap is inaccurate. Once is a reused head (that's repainted) and altered costume with the same hands and shield with added parts...to the mk3 DC that is mostly a new sculpt with new tooling and even with two unique process (injection mold and stamping (Diecast)).