Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16) *SPOILERS*

[jye4ever]

I thought Nolan said so, or am I just making that up in my head right now lol.

 

[Khev]

A CGI Leia would potentially be really jarring if they intended to have (but not yet filmed) scenes with Ben (Kylo). Imagine if it's supposed to be an emotional scene and the audience is completely taken out of it as they wrestle with the 'does that look real or not' question many had with the Tarkin and Leia scenes in RO.

And if there ends up being no scenes with Leia and Ben - that they now never meet again because of Carrie's death - that just adds to the depressing story path they set our original trilogy characters upon. Wow, Leia's son turns to the dark side, he sends her brother into hiding, he kills Han, she never speaks to him again and then she (presumably) dies too. Enjoy that ewok party while it lasts guys coz ****in' hell.....

Didn't the last Fast & Furious film feature a digital Paul Walker that took people out of the movie?

On a side note my kids and I *finally* sat through the entire Holiday Special (damn what a chore) though technically my kids' versions of sitting through it was "playing on their Kindles and occasionally glancing up to comment on how weird it was." But I powered through it because to this day it's the only live-action footage of the principal cast playing those characters that I hadn't seen. I ended up being kind of blindsided by Carrie's song at the end. Cheesy as hell and she was pretty far off key but just knowing of her passing and then seeing her in that iconic white dress one last time singing a happily cheesy song about "Life Day" well, it was pretty touching given the circumstances.

 

[Khev]

I thought Nolan said so, or am I just making that up in my head right now lol.

Joker's comments about him and Batman "doing this forever" had to indicate that Nolan was planning on bringing him back. Two-Face, not so much.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Joker's comments about him and Batman "doing this forever" had to indicate that Nolan was planning on bringing him back. Two-Face, not so much.

"You'll be in a padded cell forever!"

"Maybe we can share one. You know, they'll be doubling up, the rate this city's inhabitants are losing their minds."

Clearly Nolan intended for them to share a cell and live together like the Odd Couple

Two Face, not so much. Nolan must not be a fan of Three's Company

 

[Khev]

There's a difference between a character freestyle babbling vs saying a line that instantly suggests foreshadowing of future events. "Doing this forever" definitely came across as the latter to me. Not literally forever obviously, but at least "one more movie to close out the trilogy."

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

There's a difference between a character freestyle babbling vs saying a line that instantly suggests foreshadowing of future events. "Doing this forever" definitely came across as the latter to me. Not literally forever obviously, but at least "one more movie to close out the trilogy."

We'll never know what Nolan had planned...if he even had a plan. Before TDK came out he said the Joker teaser at the end of Begins was just a cool way to end the film, that he wasn't even thinking about a sequel. He said the same after the TDK, but people questioned it because Ledger died and Joker lived. Maybe he was telling the truth, he had no plans for a third film, when he finished working on TDK.

Maybe he would have used the character again the same way he used the Scarecrow...in a cameo or maybe Joker was going to be the main villain again. The only things TDK sets up is the Dent act and Batman covering Harvey's crimes which prohibited him from fighting crime and being a hero since he was a public enemy, and Alfred lying about Rachel's letter. There is also the Joker's line about "people eating each other when the chips are down", that also happened in TDKR. Maybe Joker was going to do the same things Bane did, and Nolan just replaced the Joker with Bane and the League of Shadows to tie everything to the first film...who knows?

 

[ShadowX81]

I just can't even imagine what else they would do with him. The Dark Knight was such a great self-contained story with a complete arc for the Joker that I couldn't even imagine what would be added by bringing him back again.

 

[Khev]

Yep, we'll never truly know since Nolan doesn't seem to want to give any details beyond what is hinted on screen.

In Rogue One news: $425 million domestic in 17 days. So much for my thought that this will do Hunger Games numbers. It appears poised to easily break $500 million and surpass even The Dark Knight (domestically at least, not sure that RO will go all the way to a billion worldwide.)

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I just can't even imagine what else they would do with him. The Dark Knight was such a great self-contained story with a complete arc for the Joker that I couldn't even imagine what would be added by bringing him back again.

Yeah, here's my theory...

First act - Joker escapes

Second act -

Third act - Joker dies

 

[xipotec]

I always believed , following Ledgers iconic performace, we would have seen him return for TDKR.

The film community would have almost demanded it. I always thought they were going to have all three in the story, ruling the trapped Gotham from on high. Scarecrow Judge, Bane muscle, Joker King.

Or maybe Bats and Joker team up to take Bane down, after Joker sees Bane is out to steal his town...


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[guyver1]

After processing it all in..did anyone think for a SW film wasn't it strange that all the key characters died.

I mean not only the main heroes but the main villains krennic and troopers as well. Even Droids died.

I know this explains why these characters were never mentioned again in the OT, but still it seems bizarre

 

[Khev]

Yep, in an era when blockbusters are now years long commitments it was so satisfying to see every main character on both sides come to a final end (save the ANH cameos of course.)

Kind of weird that basically every single action figure for this movie save Vader is a toy of a dead guy or gal...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Strange as it may sound, I found it immensely refreshing.

 

[guyver1]

Yep, in an era when blockbusters are now years long commitments it was so satisfying to see every main character on both sides come to a final end (save the ANH cameos of course.)

I still wish we could've had 7 ft tall Death troopers trying to take down Chewbacca in ANH now that we we've been introduced to them

 

[guyver1]

Strange as it may sound, I found it immensely refreshing.

It does define the term " War is Hell "

 

[Khev]

They were 7 feet tall? I didn't get that impression. At the beginning didn't a Trooper basically put his rifle right to the head of Galen's wife? I don't recall him towering over her by two feet.

 

[Wor-Gar]

It does define the term " War is Hell "

Yes. It had that poignancy as well to it.

 

[guyver1]

It might be hard to get back into the universe that TFA created after this film. But they seem like two different universes

 

[SNIKT1950]

They seem like two different universes

Not at all.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'm good with having the occasional 'edgy' Star Wars -- if you can call RO that -- but Star Wars is, at its heart, a fairy tale.