*BEWARE SPOILERS* Deadpool & Wolverine (July 26th, 2024)

[JAWS]

Just got out.

This movie is a failure at so many levels.

Many many levels.

Cameos that made no sense at the expense of a proper narrative with cameos that would’ve made sense.

A stupid timeline crisis that made no sense after Loki season 2.

More later have to drive now lol

Crazy talk.

 

[JAWS]

Just got home I have to get this off my chest.

If you want a self contained superhero movie that is hilarious with decent action set pieces THAT AMOUNT TO NOTHING and weird nostalgia porn cameos THAT AMOUNT TO NOTHING and an amazing tour de force by Jackman as Wolverine who looked amazing then you are going to love this movie.

However…

If you wanted the promised Marvel Jesus RESET love letter to the X-Men

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teaming up with the Avengers in End Game

to course correct their disastrous multiverse narrative then this movie is NOT for you!

Funny. I expected none of that. Did you all get this from the trailer??

Marvel Jesus was a joke. Not anything more. You read to much into that.

They talked so much in the movie about respecting the X-Men team

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right down to the importance and value of their costumes then they don’t even show them at all WTF

You guys read to many articles. Stay away. Disappointment will always follow

Instead we got weird freaking cameos that were pointless and out of left field.

Cameos were perfect for a Deadpool movie.

Cameos had me with “Flame on!”

Oh boy

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Elektra

that was so critical to the plot….NOT!!

Again. Perfect for Deadpool. Where was the original Howard the Duck ???

Just great ANOTHER STANDALONE WOLVERINE movie just what we needed!

Isn’t he the only reason to watch the other X men movies lol

The epic Loki S2 ending made this movie irrelevant.

Someone will have to explain to me why that ending was so great and how it rectified any wrongs.

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Gambit only, lame!

Gambit works cause the actor wanted to be in a Gambit film and the movie was green lit and shut down many times. Hence the jokes about not knowing what world he belonged to

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X-23 sunglasses for her super bad shaky cam fight waa dumb.

Again…. Deadpool movie

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Why bring back Juggernaut if he’s just going to throw punches and do nothing with what makee him Juggernaut in the first place!

****** version of Juggy got what he deserved

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The Deadpool corps fight was a huge waste of time that ultimately served no narrative purpose

.

FAIL!

it served as the final action set piece and a punchline for Peter.

You know you were watching Deadpool film right?

You can’t complain about that and love JW4 steps fight.

Seeing

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Snipes as Blade did blow me away though after all of this time and he looked great.

.

Worth the price of admission on its own.


Deadpool films should not have important plot point and fixing MCU

The films are comedies and constant wink and nods to the audience

It’s the very definition to alternate universe

Seeing DP and Wolverine fight not once but twice was just great to finally see.

Hugh back as Logan.. Nothing better.

 

[The Buffinator]

I understand, but I would say -- and I HATE that I have become the Lady Gag-me-with-a spoon champion -- that women will be intrigued by the romance angle (make believe or not) of Joker 2, and the intrigue women have with crazy people and murder (CSI, Housewifes, etc).

If kids date anymore, this will make a perfect date movie.

I have no idea if this will have a huge opening, I was joking mostly through all this, I know you know that. But that said, that 2019 movie made a billion dollars. Never saw that coming. So there seems to be a curiosity factor there built in, and Lady Gaga may benefit from it as well as bring in even more.

I guess the romance angle could be intriguing to women and there's the "bad boy" factor too, but I don't think many women picture a wrinkly, emaciated Joaquin Phoenix Joker when they imagine a bad boy romance. If they did I might consider turning to a life of crime rather than becoming a doting grandfather. Hmm, maybe I can be a drug mule lol.



But yeah, I also didn't expect Joker to rake in $1B. The cynic in me thinks that a lot of the Snyderverse disciples went to it multiple times in order to continue supporting the dark, gritty DC aesthetic over that of the MCU. So I guess Alatar and T8OO will definitely see J2 lol...

 

[Cap'n Cook]

This film is what No Way Home should have been for me.

 

[JacktheRipper]

I guess the romance angle could be intriguing to women and there's the "bad boy" factor too, but I don't think many women picture a wrinkly, emaciated Joaquin Phoenix Joker when they imagine a bad boy romance. If they did I might consider turning to a life of crime rather than becoming a doting grandfather. Hmm, maybe I can be a drug mule lol.



But yeah, I also didn't expect Joker to rake in $1B. The cynic in me thinks that a lot of the Snyderverse disciples went to it multiple times in order to continue supporting the dark, gritty DC aesthetic over that of the MCU. So I guess Alatar and T8OO will definitely see J2 lol...

Before they hit the theater:

 

[Mondragon]

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I mean adding over a decade of films for Batman
And two decades of Superman, but ok.
Yeah Disney is terrified to let go of Jackman and now RDJ, who they know were mostly carrying their respective franchises.

If in the early 2ks WB had shelled out enough to (compromise) hold onto and cary Bale into their Justice League U and other derivative crap. the fans would have followed him there too.

 

[JAWS]

I mean your adding over a decade of films for Batman
And two decades of Superman, but ok.

I added nothing. I just found this lol

Yeah Disney is terrified to let go of Jackman

Till he’s 90 lol

and now RDJ, who they know cary their respective franchises.

Now that seems desperate

If in the early 2ks WB had shelled out enough to (compromise) hold onto and cary Bale into their Justice League U. the fans would have followed him there too.

I’m sure someone else will make a great Wolverine. My post was more a wink at Jye and celebrating that HJ is back.

 

[JAWS]

I know that, I was just pointing out that Jackman is also not a crowd-drawer either on his own necessarily.

It's who they play (Harley and Wolverine) that draws the crowds. Add in their respective audience after that. I think Gaga may have a bigger fan base to draw from (women and especially those that liked that dumb A Star Is Born).

Then there's also JOKER fan base to add to that. That's where it gets huge.

Actors don’t put ***** in the seats. The characters do and what they do with them.

There are no more movie stars


Accept for Tom Cruise

 

[chrisstbh]

Funny. I expected none of that. Did you all get this from the trailer??

Marvel Jesus was a joke. Not anything more. You read to much into that.

You guys read to many articles. Stay away. Disappointment will always follow

Cameos were perfect for a Deadpool movie.

Cameos had me with “Flame on!”

Again. Perfect for Deadpool. Where was the original Howard the Duck ???

Isn’t he the only reason to watch the other X men movies lol

Someone will have to explain to me why that ending was so great and how it rectified any wrongs.

Gambit works cause the actor wanted to be in a Gambit film and the movie was green lit and shut down many times. Hence the jokes about not knowing what world he belonged to

Again…. Deadpool movie

****** version of Juggy got what he deserved

it served as the final action set piece and a punchline for Peter.

You know you were watching Deadpool film right?

You can’t complain about that and love JW4 steps fight.

Worth the price of admission on its own.


Deadpool films should not have important plot point and fixing MCU

The films are comedies and constant wink and nods to the audience

It’s the very definition to alternate universe

Seeing DP and Wolverine fight not once but twice was just great to finally see.

Hugh back as Logan.. Nothing better.

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Two Wolverines.

Three now with Cavill

 

[Mondragon]

Actors don’t put ***** in the seats. The characters do and what they do with them.

There are no more movie stars

Do the mindless drones at the Con. clapping like trained seals for RDJ as some multi-U.Stark/Doom hybrid prove or disprove that?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Actors don’t put ***** in the seats.

Tell that to the masses who like RDJ as Doom.

There are no more movie stars


Accept for Tom Cruise

That's a whole other conversation... mostly because there are no more movies.

 

[JAWS]

Tell that to the masses who like RDJ as Doom.

Not really the same

Peeps are happy as they think RDJ will save the MCU

How did Dr Doolittle do ?

Nobody runs out to see non MCU RDJ movies

That's a whole other conversation... mostly because there are no more movies.

Movies have struggled with their “stars” for a long time.

There was a time people went to see their fav actor in whatever role. Social media and over exposure has killed that imo

 

[JAWS]

Do the mindless drones at the Con. clapping like trained seals for RDJ as some multi-U.Stark/Doom hybrid prove or disprove that?

He’s a character in the MCU


If they loved him that much they would go see he’s few other movies he’s made since Iron Man

Tony Stark the character was perfect for RDJ

People miss his MCU presence

 

[Wor-Gar]

Not really the same

Peeps are happy as they think RDJ will save the MCU

How did Dr Doolittle do ?

I think you can pick out a flop from almost any actor, director, producer, writer AND character.

I agree that there are "no more movie stars anymore" mostly. It's gotten very thin. But I still believe people thrive on celebrity, I believe they idolize characters and the actor that portrays them at the same time.

Actors gets butts in seats, if they're playing the characters people want to see -- Keaton Batman, Ford Indy**, Jackson Wolverine, on and on. Hollywood is continually mining this very proposition with endless remakes and sequels. And just dare to tell them someone else will play the role. They freak. Can't handle it. So the 'actor' IS part of the movie character. The movie industry is suffering from a lot of different reasons, not just that there's "no movie stars".

**NOTE: Ford is a bad example because he's overplayed his hand into an age no one wants to see, for 2 films now. I think if Mel Gibson came back as Mad Max, he'd get butts in seats.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I think I already said this more abbreviated much earlier in post #865

I know that, I was just pointing out that Jackman is also not a crowd-drawer either on his own necessarily.

It's who they play (Harley and Wolverine) that draws the crowds.

 

[The Buffinator]

Crazy talk.

Funny. I expected none of that. Did you all get this from the trailer??

Marvel Jesus was a joke. Not anything more. You read to much into that.

You guys read to many articles. Stay away. Disappointment will always follow

Cameos were perfect for a Deadpool movie.

Cameos had me with “Flame on!”

Again. Perfect for Deadpool. Where was the original Howard the Duck ???

Isn’t he the only reason to watch the other X men movies lol

Someone will have to explain to me why that ending was so great and how it rectified any wrongs.

Gambit works cause the actor wanted to be in a Gambit film and the movie was green lit and shut down many times. Hence the jokes about not knowing what world he belonged to

Again…. Deadpool movie

****** version of Juggy got what he deserved

it served as the final action set piece and a punchline for Peter.

You know you were watching Deadpool film right?

You can’t complain about that and love JW4 steps fight.

Worth the price of admission on its own.


Deadpool films should not have important plot point and fixing MCU

The films are comedies and constant wink and nods to the audience

It’s the very definition to alternate universe

Seeing DP and Wolverine fight not once but twice was just great to finally see.

Hugh back as Logan.. Nothing better.

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Jaws,

We need to go easier on @jye4ever. Keep in mind that just prior to seeing this he'd been banned for 2 weeks, forlorn and essentially rudderless without the benefit of our collective wisdom to steer him. In retrospect, his misguided and completely erroneous take was to be expected.

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[jye4ever]

Why did Deadpool include Shadowstar as a very close family friend of his in his group of 9 but not Domino?

Weird because he didn’t even seem fond of Shadowstar in DP2.

 

[The Buffinator]

Why did Deadpool include Shadowstar as a very close family friend of his in his group of 9 but not Domino?

Weird because he didn’t even seem fond of Shadowstar in DP2.

Probably because Zazie Beetz had a project which conflicted with D&W's filming schedule.

 

[chrisstbh]

Probably because Zazie Beetz had a project which conflicted with D&W's filming schedule.

She's got like 7 upcoming projects and multiple that released whilst this movie was in production.

She also may not have been keen to return for such a small insignificant role.