Invictus Sol
No Life in the Void
Yeah, he really went too far and made Palpatine a bit too campy for my tastes.
Like the Boromir idea better. RoboVader doesn't hold any interest to me.
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eczamurai
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I would want to cast Kevin Spacey as the Emperor.
YankeesFanboy
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Downside No. 13290 (or Upside No. 1) of Lucas CGI. Less scenery to chew.
Seeing him in House of Cards, I can get onboard with this.
There is nothing tragic about Anakin's turning. He's whiny for thinking his wife will die, which is sad, but the moment he choses to slaughter kids "for" her you can throw sadness out of the window. A better option would be for his hand to be forced by the emperor in a different way. Maybe threaten her or someone else if he doesn't do as he bids. And have him become addicted the more he goes dark even though his hand is forced. That's tragedy, because he doesn't WANT to be bad, but he is forced to do so by someone else and on top of that it's very addicting.
Compare it do this:
Someone's wife is kidnapped and he has to do things he doesn't want to do at all but he has to because his hand is forced. But in this he does horrible things he KNOWS is wrong but simply can't revert. Therefor he has to chose to live as a criminal simply because there is no reason to expect society to forgive him. Logically. And the longer he does this the more he gets used to it untill he realises he has a son, which upsets his life.
In ROTS you see ZERO grief from Anakin's part, he thinks he's doing the right thing, even though ANY other person could conceive it as completely irrational and stupid. It would be far more interesting if Anakin himself KNEW it wasn't the right thing to do.
"from my point of view the Jedi are evil"
Would have been far better if he had said:
"I'm sorry my friend, I have to do this."
Or something along that line, maybe less corny.
I don't disagree with you, but there is that one scene with Anakin on mustafar where he tears up a bit right? I guess that's supposed to show gried.
Idk I havent seen ROTS in a while
Reminder: Lex Luthor.
Prime Clone
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Luke was whiny, Anakin was whiny - it makes sense.
The tragic part of Anakin's downfall was that Mace actually did have the upper hand over Palps (despite the conjecture Lucas has confirmed this). Mace would have killed Palps if not for Anakin's intervention, so Anakin was personally responsible for the downfall of the Jedi and rise of the Sith.
That's the real tragedy. It's also what makes the climax of ROTJ so pivotal.
The tragic part of Anakin's downfall was that Mace actually did have the upper hand over Palps (despite the conjecture Lucas has confirmed this). Mace would have killed Palps if not for Anakin's intervention, so Anakin was personally responsible for the downfall of the Jedi and rise of the Sith.
That's the real tragedy. It's also what makes the climax of ROTJ so pivotal.
There is no high drama in any of the six Star Wars films. This is pure pulp.
If you're crying at the end of Jedi, you need to get out more.
If you're crying at the end of Jedi, you need to get out more.
The only close-to-sad moments are luke seeing his aunt and uncle's corpses burning. And Luke's reaction to Ben being struck down. And both you feel for Luke more than anything. Besides that no hero anyone cares about dies in the entire trilogy aside from Yoda, but that's just him dying of old age at 900 or something. They should have let Han die in the bunker scene or something.
eczamurai
Super Freak
I wouldn't cry at Jedi, but at least it moved me a little bit. You know, I felt something.. A disturbance..
eczamurai
Super Freak
CriterionCollector
Super Freak
I wouldn't cry at Jedi, but at least it moved me a little bit. You know, I felt something.. A disturbance..
Gave me a boner
Which is why the Clone Wars tv series really redeemed a lot of mistakes in the PT. Anakin was a hero in that series. A fleshed out character and not a whiny little ****. And you can see the cracks appear in the Jedi order and his questioning of things in a way that really made sense and was quite rational.
Depends. If you are talking book Boromir, then yes. But in the movie (theatrical) you really weren't given that sense at all. It wasn't until the extended edition that Boromir became the tragic figure.
eczamurai
Super Freak
Even in the theatrical version I think his death made an impact. But I had read the books beforehand so I might be biased unknowingly.
Great actor. But I have trouble seeing him "get into" Star Wars.
Does this include Empire? Including when Han is frozen in carbonite? Or when Vader tells Luke that he is his father?
Perhaps my feelings are largely influenced by nostalgia, but I still react the same way watching those scenes as an adult as I did when I first saw the movie at age 9. It was the one-two punch in the gut that elevated the series from just pulp adventure towards more serious drama, which seems to be why it's still regarded as a fan favorite.
Pulp. Frozen in carbonite... come on. What does that even mean? And the "I am your father" bit is a dramatic moment, for sure, but hardly high drama (depending on your definition of course).
I'm sure there's some grown men here that still find Skeletor's cartoon voice frightening to this day.
Lejuan
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Invictus Sol
No Life in the Void
Yeah, same. I like Spacey but I wouldn't want him anywhere near the franchise. I'm sure he'd 'Lex Luthor' any material he was given. Anyway, I'd prefer unknowns as much as possible.
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Nonsense. There's tons of drama in the series and the end of ROTJ beautifully elicits strong emotions from its audience because of said drama.
CriterionCollector
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If anyone thinks any of the SW movies contain high drama, you might want to expand your horizons past sci-fi and action movies. Star Wars makes a good attempt at high drama, but it's pretty ham-fisted and no one gives a **** overall.
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