1/6 Hot Toys - MMS 279 - Star Wars Episode IV: 1/6th scale Darth Vader

[Lejuan]

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[lerath666]

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i've got a feeling this is gonna be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG wait

 

[TaliBane]

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I would love to get a 'Hot Toys in conjunction with Vader master, Hurricane, comes the ultimate 1:6 Vader' announcement. Glen knows Vader well...is he still around?

For delivery in 2018, and they can set up a sad, angst-filled thread so people can keep posting "any updates?" every few weeks.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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i've got a feeling this is gonna be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG wait

Not as long as the ROTS Vader you're waiting for.

 

[lerath666]

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Not as long as the ROTS Vader you're waiting for.

?

Not waiting for a ROTS Vader. I've already got all the vader i need.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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Come on, Hot Toys.... Don't BR this Vader!

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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?

Not waiting for a ROTS Vader. I've already got all the vader i need.

Weren't you the one campaigning for one, & emphatically predicting a Haydikan two pack?

 

[Mr Walker]

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After shortening my SS Vader and swapping out the cape, I'm pretty happy with it, so this would have to be damned good to make me want to buy another Vader.

 

[demorathis]

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After shortening my SS Vader and swapping out the cape, I'm pretty happy with it, so this would have to be damned good to make me want to buy another Vader.

Sometimes I wonder if the best companies like ss and ht purposely make the most collectable characters like Vader elusively imperfect just to keep collectors reaching for the ideal.....to keep us coming back for more as with each new licensed collectible, they just inch toward the "best available to-date".......

Let's face it....if they came out with the be all end all 1/6 vader, many of us would probably stop buying vader for a good while, so they make just close enough with, to hard core collectors, one or two glaring details that are off.....

I mean with the minimal research there's enough info to be accurate enough....nevermind the bells and whistles or the minutiae on the belt boxes or chest panel, but the helmet, the silhouette, the armour, we've all seen a million times and there's so many eFx and sl anh and even don posts and photos available to see what a basically correctly formed dome or face should look like....there's no excuse all offerings thus far are so off when you look side by side.

Created by someone off the impression of the character, Vaders mouth is always exaggerated and his domes skirt is always too long......then if those are fixed, addressed by the next installment, a whole other slew of weirdness crops up like licorice suits and twiggy arms.....huh hmm
It's like the the big companies use perceived or forced obsolescence in 1/6 figures, because they know we are all too familiar with these things.
....or do they just suck when it comes to ruining the obvious-- making that one glaring error, which the subsequent figure will have corrected, but would have introduced a new wonky detail for us to fuss over....?

Let's face it....it's our collecting that keeps these companies going, and if we stop at our favorite figures, they stop, unless there's more figure collectors being made in the world.....but it seems even the toy collectors are slowly giving way to a generation that values digital belongings both the software and hardware over toys and collectibles including blurays and DVDs which obviously require lots of real estate to acquire

 

[thecapn]

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It's an interesting question.

The continuous Iron Man, Joker, and Predator versions, many of which are mainly repaints, are definitely geared toward getting completists to buy one more of the same item at a relatively minimal cost to the company for development.

Look, there will always be improvements in paint operations, detail, sculpting, etc. as time moves forward and companies continue to up their games. Hot Toys themselves have released new bodies, even better paint jobs, and more detailing as time's come along. But in the last 3-4 years we've reached a point where it'd take a really ridiculous upgrade to get me to replace figures I've already bought in that time frame. I really never had any interest in replacing my DX01 and DX02 with the newer versions, for example. But maybe if I was a completest, or a rabid fan obsessed with the uniform consistencies you listed, I would (If it was Trek, not Wars, I may even be THAT guy personally lol).

Companies definitely psychologically manipulate us in order to get us to buy ONE more figure. Build-a-figures where parts are included in multiple packages are one way. Bundling figures, repaints, special packaging, all of the above contributes to it. But I don't know if I'd go as far as to say that a company like Hot Toys would willingly not put their all into a figure just to make another one. I'm pretty cynical, and that's too cynical for me...Besides, with Vader, you can release at least 4 different versions from all the movies he appeared in to this point with potentially minor changes and save development time...why go so far?

 

[Captain Britain]

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Sometimes I wonder if the best companies like ss and ht purposely make the most collectable characters like Vader elusively imperfect just to keep collectors reaching for the ideal.....to keep us coming back for more as with each new licensed collectible, they just inch toward the "best available to-date".......

Let's face it....if they came out with the be all end all 1/6 vader, many of us would probably stop buying vader for a good while, so they make just close enough with, to hard core collectors, one or two glaring details that are off.....

I mean with the minimal research there's enough info to be accurate enough....nevermind the bells and whistles or the minutiae on the belt boxes or chest panel, but the helmet, the silhouette, the armour, we've all seen a million times and there's so many eFx and sl anh and even don posts and photos available to see what a basically correctly formed dome or face should look like....there's no excuse all offerings thus far are so off when you look side by side.

Created by someone off the impression of the character, Vaders mouth is always exaggerated and his domes skirt is always too long......then if those are fixed, addressed by the next installment, a whole other slew of weirdness crops up like licorice suits and twiggy arms.....huh hmm
It's like the the big companies use perceived or forced obsolescence in 1/6 figures, because they know we are all too familiar with these things.
....or do they just suck when it comes to ruining the obvious-- making that one glaring error, which the subsequent figure will have corrected, but would have introduced a new wonky detail for us to fuss over....?

Let's face it....it's our collecting that keeps these companies going, and if we stop at our favorite figures, they stop, unless there's more figure collectors being made in the world.....but it seems even the toy collectors are slowly giving way to a generation that values digital belongings both the software and hardware over toys and collectibles including blurays and DVDs which obviously require lots of real estate to acquire

Without a shadow of a doubt. That's why true all-time classics - like Sparrow DX for instance or Batman 1989 - are so rare. And it took six years to get a more or less perfect HT Bale Batman from the Armoury set.

They're definitely playing this game with Han.

 

[Invictus Sol]

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Sometimes I wonder if the best companies like ss and ht purposely make the most collectable characters like Vader elusively imperfect just to keep collectors reaching for the ideal.....to keep us coming back for more as with each new licensed collectible, they just inch toward the "best available to-date"...

Yep, there's a couple proponents of the 1:6 "planned obsolesence" theory but it doesn't seem feasible to me that say HT has the 'perfect' Ford Han Solo in a vault and purposely alter that sculpt so that it's just a bit off, so that the next release can be a bit closer (someone was actually using this as a theory to reconcile why HT's Han is not a dead ringer...). I'm sure they do the best they can within the limitations they have at the time. Theory doesn't make a lot of sense, either. HT's ANH Vader and eventually ESB Vader will be the last I buy until they break or deteriorate. So a long, long time. I won't care if one is released that's a tiny bit more accurate. There's too much other stuff competing for that dollar to keep buying endless iterations of the same character.

...They're definitely playing this game with Han.

Then how come no-one else has managed to get Ford's likeness definitively in any format? I've looked at customs, PFs, 1:6, etc., and there is no dead ringer for Ford anywhere. He's just a tough likeness to capture. If HT could give us the perfect Ford rendition, they'd do so, because it would convince way more people to buy and I'm sure it has a certain prestige for them as artists, that they'd like to have. Someone else could come out w/the perfect Han tomorrow, for all they know, so I don't think they're purposely screwing up the sculpt.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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Sometimes I wonder..

I don't own a single 1/6 Vader - don't like any of them.

If HT' Vader sucks, I won't buy that either.

 

[Invictus Sol]

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^^ See, that's where the "planned obsolescence" theory breaks down. Same w/Han. There are tons of people who have said emphatically that they won't buy unless the likeness improves. Anyone think HT doesn't want their money now, while they're in the hobby, rather than wait a year or two and maybe some of these guys have left? No chance.

It's funny but theories like this seem to me the 1:6 equivalent of Truthers or Birthers in the States.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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Yeah, the close but no cigar conspiracy theory is a bit weak.

I used to think that about some of the Hasbro figures, because they got some things SO right.. & other things so wrong - then the next figure came along & same again.

In reality, they no doubt listen to feedback when it suits them, otherwise they know that their faithful will consume regardless. That said, nuances are either lost or noted from person to person (in the design stage) so it's a human thing in the end, not some ulterior agenda.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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I think its more of a "that's good enough for now" problem with why something is not perfect.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

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It's funny but theories like this seem to me the 1:6 equivalent of Truthers or Birthers in the States.

I don't like your tone. He doesn't like it, either.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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YFB on his lunch break.

 

[Invictus Sol]

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[YankeesFanboy]

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YFB on his lunch break.

I don't do lunch. Or dinner. Or breakfast, for that matter. Food is how the government poisons us. Amateur.