Hot Toys Rogue One Vader MMS388

[cmiller99]

Yep, if he's a grunt, marching along on a front line cutting down people in front of him then I'd be ok with that.

At no point should his feet leave the ground. Cos then it'll get silly.

 

[KerotanFrog]

I'm all for Vader being part of an epic, badass action sequence in Rogue One, as long as they don't have him jumping around and doing a bunch of quick and flashy prequel-style moves. He should still be using the lightsaber much like we saw in the OT, and relying just as much on the Force to gain the upper hand.

And his fighting style in Rebels seemed to hold pretty true to that as well I thought.

Yes! His fighting style in Rebels is perfect. Intimidating, unstoppable, and literally death incarnate. He would force choke rebels and deflect blaster bolts with his lightsaber, all while moving at his own pace. If any one gets near him, they get cut down instantly. He's not going to cheese the screen like Captain America. And no Yoda flips. Picture a tank in the shape of a man. That's RO Vader.

 

[SNIKT1950]

No disrespect but I pray you comic/EU guys do not get your wish.

The last thing I want to see is Star Wars "Marvel-ized" with a CGI Vader battling like an unstoppable Captain America.

No need for CG. Spencer Wielding is a stuntman who can do it all himself and Vader's fighting style doesn't call for acrobatics or martial arts like Cap.

Also, the EU isn't canon. The stuff we're all referencing is from the canon Star Wars comics that started their runs last year.

 

[Futurion]

No disrespect but I pray you comic/EU guys do not get your wish.

The last thing I want to see is Star Wars "Marvel-ized" with a CGI Vader battling like an unstoppable Captain America.

Let's hope Disney will respect some of Vader's characteristics. Vader should use brutal strength and the force, like in OT. No need for spiderman moves.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I still don't trust Disney. Once you spend the money for a "large action sequence with Vader" I start to get nervous about Disney's 'taste'. Based on their track record, it's a toss-up on whether it will be handled well (and respectfully) or whether they will throw bells-and-whistles on it for the next-gen.

 

[KerotanFrog]

Yeah we're referencing the new Vader comics and Star Wars Rebels. All canon. They're faithful to Vader's moveset and abilities showcased in the OT, just a little more aggressive.

 

[KerotanFrog]

I still don't trust Disney. Once you spend the money for a "large action sequence with Vader" I start to get nervous about Disney's 'taste'. Based on their track record, it's a toss-up on whether it will be handled well (and respectfully) or whether they will throw bells-and-whistles on it for the next-gen.

What reason do you have to think they'll completely mess it up? You can't compare the marvel crap to Star Wars. They didn't do any crazy flips and weird acrobatics in TFA... They don't do it in Rebels either.

 

[IndyMOS]

I'd hope his abilities would look like what he does in Battlefront, where he deflects blaster bolts with his lightsaber, throws it at Rebels, and force chokes. Even his walking is slow and when he jumps they're slow force jumps like what he did in ESB. In addition he can do what he did in ESB and block blaster bolts with his hands, along with some force pushes and pulls.

I think those are some things he can do in Rogue One. Nothing too far from what he did in the OT. Really no need for a CGI Vader or fancy moves.

 

[Johnny6666]

Much prefer these gloves, and the shiny fresh look, so PO'd.

 

[ZE_501]

Couldn't disagree more.

[...]

To be expected, we're well on opposite sides of the nerd-fence on Star Wars, as I recall. It is what it is.

It was Vader himself that hunted down and killed all the Jedi left in the galaxy. People who just want him to stand on the bridge barking orders and chatting up the emperor have no clue to his character. [...]

Well, I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. This is all opinion (on both sides) and I'm backing mine up with pretty strong dramatic conventions and tropes. You seem to prefer something else and we'll leave it at that.

[...]The physical Vader in the movies -- even in ESB -- looks awkward at times when he's fighting Luke or stomping around Hoth. The 'idea' of "Vader the dragon" is cool, but the reality of seeing it realized on film could be disappointing. Like when we finally saw how Yoda really fights.

He's actually handled quite well, for the most part in the Rebels cartoon. But once again that's a cartoon that can get away with things live action might not.

The three most badass things I've ever seen that character do were all in ESB:

1. Deflecting Han's blaster bolts with a gesture and disarming him.

2. The opening of the Bespin duel, where he shows casual, one-handed mastery.

3. The decisive end to the Bespin duel, where he disarms that punk Luke somewhat permanently, with an elegant, economical counter.

None of that stuff was flashy and all conveyed great power.

I'm all for Vader being part of an epic, badass action sequence in Rogue One, as long as they don't have him jumping around and doing a bunch of quick and flashy prequel-style moves. He should still be using the lightsaber much like we saw in the OT, and relying just as much on the Force to gain the upper hand.

And his fighting style in Rebels seemed to hold pretty true to that as well I thought.

As mentioned above, I like his treatment in Rebels, overall. But if he were ever surrounded by a battalion of enemy troops, I don't see him slugging it out with them. I see him using the force to jam all their weapons and maybe choke the front line out.

But the point of such a character to me, is much more Sun-Tzu-like. He wouldn't be in that position in the first place. He's too smart and it's beneath him.

Muhammad Ali didn't fight punks on the streets.

 

[SunrayTheWingman]

After seeing Godzilla, I trust Gareth Edwards with Vader. He did Godzilla himself justice without making it over the top. I honestly think he's a great director.

 

[Waste Time Continuum]

Hot Toys not including the blade is such an odd choice, that leaves me wondering if they were actually instructed by Disney/Lucasfilm not to include it. I can't imagine what that reason would be. What reason would Hot Toys have to not include such a simple, cheap to produce (or already produced) and iconic accessory? They probably have a stockpile of saber blades to be used for future versions. (ESB, ROTJ)

It's not like there will be a Rogue One "battling version" Vader with weathered robes and armor plus exclusive lit saber. (Hmmm, after typing that I'm not so sure we won't see that version)

Whatever the case, it's a strange but poor decision by whomever is responsible.

There's a very good chance he won't use his saber in the film.

Remember this is in no way a Vader film, we have 3 of those already.

I promise you Vader is barely in this film, only showing up at the very end to assess WTF just happened, to pick up the pieces, and start the hunt for the Death Star Plans.

That doesn't stop Disney form using him as a marketing tool for the film though.


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[TaliBane]

There's a very good chance he won't use his saber in the film.

Remember this is in no way a Vader film, we have 3 of those already.

I promise you Vader is barely in this film, only showing up at the very end to assess WTF just happened, to pick up the pieces, and start the hunt for the Death Star Plans.

That doesn't stop Disney form using him as a marketing tool for the film though.


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Is this based on info, or how you see it playing out?

 

[Waste Time Continuum]

Is this based on info, or how you see it playing out?

Just my opinion, but I'm always right, so you can trust me. [emoji1]


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[FullMetalHippie]

He may not use his saber, which I'm perfectly fine with, but that doesn't mean the blade shouldn't be included. Hot Toys have included plenty of accessories not shown in films, i.e. Luke's hat and goggles, the Stormtrooper pistol or even as recent as the the pistol that came with the First Order Tie Pilot.

We may have seen those things in promotional pics or deleted scenes but not in the actual films. What's the difference? I'm just saying that it's such a simple thing that they've already produced for the first version, why not throw it in the box?

 

[Waste Time Continuum]

I'd genuinely be surprised if they didn't throw it in honestly.


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[TaliBane]

Just my opinion, but I'm always right, so you can trust me. [emoji1]


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You are correct in all things Vader, that's for sure.

 

[davejames]

There's a very good chance he won't use his saber in the film.

Remember this is in no way a Vader film, we have 3 of those already.

I promise you Vader is barely in this film, only showing up at the very end to assess WTF just happened, to pick up the pieces, and start the hunt for the Death Star Plans.

That doesn't stop Disney form using him as a marketing tool for the film though.


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Well at least judging from how royally pissed he sounds at the start of ANH, I get the sense he may be a bit more actively involved than that, and was doing more than just calmly monitoring the situation from a distance. It seems to me that he must have got up close and engaged in some kind of battle with the rebels before they got the better of him at the last minute and escaped with the plans.

And I have to assume they wouldn't be using Vader at all in this movie if it was going to be nothing but a glorified cameo. I believe there were also some spy reports a while ago suggesting he had a bigger role in the movie than people originally assumed.

 

[Wor-Gar]

... nothing but a glorified cameo.

Ah, but you know damn well that's exactly what it is.

 

[Asta]

I believe there were also some spy reports a while ago suggesting he had a bigger role in the movie than people originally assumed.

It the leads up to the Vader movie, subtitled A Star Wars Romance.

Rogue One ends with a lovers' tiff, leaving him extra grumpy for the start of ANH.