Media Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

[Solidus]

This doucher looks so young, he was probably hooked on phonics when MGS 1 came out. What the hell was Kojima and company thinking? Were they so desperate for funding on the Fox engine (and Kiefer's salary), that they had to clean house and hire this guy, of all people?

 

[Jameson Rook]

Ryan, why you do dis to me?!

About time someone else suffers from learning who this Fossil is.

I seem to be the only one who brought it up ages ago. I'm a big fan of videogame music, and I'm not joking that this guy has to be some of the most underwhelming talents I've ever seen. Why is Kojima going with untested waters? I know he tends to hire composers who speaks Japanese, but what happened to everyone else? Did they all died on a plane crash and suddenly this guy is 100% in charge of the music? (hence, why he has so much screen time on the Kojima shows).

Normally a group of Japanese in-house composers will handle the task of composing a Metal Gear game, usually comprising about 10 people. The only person to single handedly compose a MGS score was Norihiko Hibino, who did all the music for Ghost Babel, MGS2 and MGS3.

I'm totally fine if this guy is a douche but produces great music, but there barely is anything noteworthy listening to the soundtrack of GZ.

 

[Jameson Rook]

This doucher looks so young, he was probably hooked on phonics when MGS 1 came out. What the hell was Kojima and company thinking? Were they so desperate for funding on the Fox engine (and Kiefer's salary), that they had to clean house and hire this guy, of all people?

Yeah, I can't find any personal info on him. How old do you reckon he is?

 

[Solidus]

Yeah, I can't find any personal info on him. How old do you reckon he is?

Early 20s, I'd say. If he was older, he'd already have a portfolio with work experience by now.

About time someone else suffers from learning who this Fossil is.

I seem to be the only one who brought it up ages ago. I'm a big fan of videogame music, and I'm not joking that this guy has to be some of the most underwhelming talents I've ever seen. Why is Kojima going with untested waters? I know he tends to hire composers who speaks Japanese, but what happened to everyone else? Did they all died on a plane crash and suddenly this guy is 100% in charge of the music? (hence, why he has so much screen time on the Kojima shows).

Normally a group of Japanese in-house composers will handle the task of composing a Metal Gear game, usually comprising about 10 people. The only person to single handedly compose a MGS score was Norihiko Hibino, who did all the music for Ghost Babel, MGS2 and MGS3.

I'm totally fine if this guy is a douche but produces great music, but there barely anything noteworthy listening to the soundtrack of GZ.

So, first David Hayter gets booted, and is replaced with Kiefer. And then, all of the Konami composers are either fired (or died in accident), and are replaced with this SINGLE guy who's responsible for all of the in-game music in MGS V. There's something very odd going on here. I wonder if it has anything to do with directives from Konami's marketing department - that Kojima mentioned about before.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Early 20s, I'd say. If he was older, he'd already have a portfolio with work experience by now..

Good point. I wonder what are his qualifications.

o, first David Hayter gets booted, and is replaced with Kiefer. And then, all of the Konami composers are either fired (or died in accident), and are replaced with this SINGLE guy who's responsible for all of the in-game music in MGS V. There's something very odd going on here. I wonder if it has anything to do with directives from Konami's marketing department - that Kojima mentioned about before.

My best guess is that Forssell is a much cheaper alternative than hiring an actual, experienced composer (say, Jesper Kyd) and that the in-house team disbanded. One might not be aware of this, but hiring artists to compose music is actually very costly, and most composers would like to peruse a more diverse career (hence why MGS's Hibino and Silent Hill's Akira Yamaoka all left Konami).

I did asked Hibino-san if he's ever interested in returning to MGS and his exact reply was "I'm finished with Metal Gear".

Anyway, 20 minutes left to the trailer!

 

[Solidus]

Good point. I wonder what are his qualifications.



My best guess is that Forssell is a much cheaper alternative than hiring an actual, experienced composer (say, Jesper Kyd) and that the in-house team disbanded. One might not be aware of this, but hiring artists to compose music is actually very costly, and most composers would like to peruse a more diverse career (hence why MGS's Hibino and Silent Hill's Akira Yamaoka all left Konami).

I did asked Hibino-san if he's ever interested in returning to MGS and his exact reply was "I'm finished with Metal Gear".

Anyway, 20 minutes left to the trailer!

Good info, Ryan. I sorely miss Hibino's work from MGS 2 and 3. The Konami composers also did a great job in Portable Ops and MGS 4. But, I have to say, if Forsell was a cheaper alternative, it also came at the cost of quality. Konami actually hired a freakin' college intern for the most expensively developed game release in their company's history. A guy who makes sounds by hitting a banana on a bass guitar. Not to mention composing shi**y death metal. They must have been really desperate to resort to that. Ugh...

How many minutes for this video now?

 

[pturtle]

Its up!!!!

 

[Jameson Rook]

Love how Kojima stays in shape despite his work.

 

[Solidus]

It's in Japanese, too (not surprisingly). Might as well wait for a translated version. Here's the live stream. Kudos to Ryan for forwarding the link (be sure to laud him with rep points, everyone ):

 

[pturtle]

The demo is going to be in english, that all that matters.

technical difficulties

 

[pturtle]

Demo is finally being shown

 

[pturtle]

My god that was incredible.

 

[Dead-Man]

really unique

 

[Jameson Rook]

Just done watching the gameplay video, looks great so far. I guess my favorite part is that you can't use Fulton indoors and the strike request looks cool. Really dig the fast forward feature though that hologram cigar smoke is kinda pushing it. The constant pop out does seem like a cause for concern as well. I wished they removed the Magnus effect aiming though.

There's no doubt Kojima can create an amazing gameplay experience, it's the other aspects of the game that I'm still worried about.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Ocelot has Troy Baker's nose.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Just done watching the gameplay video, looks great so far. I guess my favorite part is that you can't use Fulton indoors and the strike request looks cool. Really dig the fast forward feature though that hologram cigar smoke is kinda pushing it. The constant pop out does seem like a cause for concern as well. I wished they removed the Magnus effect aiming though.

There's no doubt Kojima can create an amazing gameplay experience, it's the other aspects of the game that I'm still worried about.

I have no doubt this we'll be a blast to play. Kojima is always opening new doors with gameplay mechanics, but as you said it's the story that worrisome.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

They should at least tell us at what extent we can customize mother base I need to know

Also they don't call it Outer Heaven, I don't like that... maybe Outer Heaven will be made half way through the story

Its was great, just as I expected

 

[Jameson Rook]

They should at least tell us at what extent we can customize mother base I need to know

Also they don't call it Outer Heaven, I don't like that... maybe Outer Heaven will be made half way through the story

Its was great, just as I expected

If Big Boss was the commander of Outer Heaven in 1984, why was he in command of Foxhound and appointed by the U.S to respond to the Outer Heaven crisis in 1995?

Heck, shouldn't the U.S (or the Patriots) know that he's a threat if he's gone bad in TPP?

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I've been thinking about that, This is what I think will happen:

- Miller and Ocelot will leave and become inside agents of the patriots, maybe with Eva's help

- Maybe Big Boss thought he won by the end of this game, maybe Zero will play dead. And what happens later ( MG1 ) will be orchestrated by the patriots, they will use Snake to kill Big Boss. Everything will be part of their plan, a la MGS2

- Zero will make Big Boss believe the patriots are crippled by letting him go back to the States, and Big Boss will go back to destroy whats left or... something like that


Does it make sense ? I dunno, things might go this way

 

[Snake Plissken]

One thing we can agree on, Big Boss loses to Zero in a manner of speaking

I still hate that Zero is the #1 bad guy in this series now.