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I thought Rising crushed the beauty of Raiden's ending in MGS4. That character went through so much garbage his whole life and finally got a happy family—free from all war and the Patriots. So many made sacrifices for that to happen, including Solid Snake, and then Rising perverted it. I'd feel the exact same way if they tried to continue Solid Snake's story. Heck, Big Boss even waited and gave Solid Snake the choice before stepping in, to see if he wanted to live. Solid Snake and Raiden weren't like Big Boss; they wanted normal lives. They fought because they were helping people and saving the world. The world needed them.

I thought MGS4 was brilliant how it incorporated the horrors of the war economy, as well as our self reliance on technology and government control. People freak out about the government relegating everything, but they are willing to make the sacrifice because it makes life so much easier. We've become so lazy. These nanomachines take away fear, pain, and hunger, and the characters believed it was worth the trade off. Eva touched on how our kids and subsequent generations aren't even going to question the ethical or even logical problems with all this. Yeah, we could say they went a little crazy with how much nanomachines can do; however, I never fathomed a world with 3d printers that could create such elaborate prosthetic arms, like that Iron Man prosthetic for that child, could be made for $350! Heck, Darpa has the ability to control our computers—including our cars through Onstar!

I completely disagree with folks saying to take a property away from the creator who put their soul into something that we love. I think that's self-entitled and a bit infantile. I thought the Star Wars pre-quels were trash, but it's Lucas' universe! I think it's narcissistic to think that he should cater to our own individual interests. Personally, I'm fine with that original trilogy and don't even care about the new movies. That story was great, and if people want more—great! I don't though, and that's fine.

So did Samurai Jack, but you don't see him having a happy life. :lol

Point is, the contradiction of Raiden's ending was a small price to pay for such a great comeback that didn't rely on heavy handed MGS exposition. You could say the same about MGSV since MGS4 already wrapped up Big Boss's resolution.
 
I think Kojima and MGS need to retire together. And whenever that time comes, Konami should just make some make new IPs and respectively let the series go with its creator.

No one even cares about Rising's plot, so Platinum can just develop those games by themselves.
 
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes

Yea I agree, I would prefer to see him make a new IP and for the series to end with TPP. That's most likely not going to happen.
 
Konami should go back making TMNT games! Those were my fondest memories of Konami games from my childhood. :lol
 
wait, are we all.....agreeing?

:lol

Guess so :lol. Hell has frozen over on this most uneventful Friday morning.

Yea I agree, I would prefer to see him make a new IP and for the series to end with TPP. That's most likely not going to happen.

I've always been a bigger Kojima fan than I was a MGS fan :lol. I'd really like to see him experiment with same kind of creative spark he had with the first two MGS games, in a new IP. To his detriment, he's always just a slave to Konami, though.

Konami should go back making TMNT games! Those were my fondest memories of Konami games from my childhood. :lol

Besides MGS, I think the first Konami game I played was Suikoden I. It's a shame the series has went off the radar in recent years.
 
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I think Kojima and MGS need to retire together. And whenever that time comes, Konami should just make some make new IPs and respectively let the series go with its creator.

No one even cares about Rising's plot, so Platinum can just develop those games by themselves.

They can take the story anywhere they like, and I'll gladly follow it.

wait, are we all.....agreeing?

:lol

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I'm ok with hideo maybe not directing every metal gear game but I never imagined he's leave Konami. He should be an adviser to producer to the series, but now it looks like a no. I'm very worried now
 
I'm ok with hideo maybe not directing every metal gear game but I never imagined he's leave Konami. He should be an adviser to producer to the series, but now it looks like a no. I'm very worried now

We're all just talking about hypotheticals and worst-case-scenarios with the series. There's nothing announced so far that he's leaving Konami. I don't think he will be :lol.
 
We're all just talking about hypotheticals and worst-case-scenarios with the series. There's nothing announced so far that he's leaving Konami. I don't think he will be :lol.

I think it's all but confirmed. They retroactively removed his name from all the MGS stuff from MGSV to even the legacy collections pages. That's quite dramatic, and then hire staff for a new Metal Gear?

I'm quite upset cause this series is honestly my favourite piece of media in general and I'm watching it crash and burn. Out of nowhere too.

Why do these game company's fire the people that created them. Mega man creator, Shinji Mikami of RE. What's next Miyamoto getting fired?
 
I'm happy to see Rising take off as its own spinoff series with the main MGS titles finishing with TPP. It's been going on for far too long and while I'm still very excited for MGSV, I don't think I can take another BB prequel. So please, just.... let it die.
 
I'm happy to see Rising take off as its own spinoff series with the main MGS titles finishing with TPP. It's been on for far too long and while I'm still very excited for MGSV, I don't think I can take another BB prequel. So please, just.... let it die.

There really must be some kinda cosmic anomaly a foot, that I'm even in full agreement with ronri. BB doesn't need anymore games, none whatsoever. This is the end cap, it can go no further realistically.
 
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