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Re: 1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Avengers: AOU - Hulkbuster

I thought we knew about this already too? Bits of the armour fly in & attach to it as it's powering up in the trailer..., nothing wrong with discussing theories though of course but that hoody is looking pretty budget (pardon the pun).
 
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Whats an extremis armour in MCU? how can he say it is an extremis armor? The mark 42 is not extremis. He's just trolling. Thats why he's wearing a mask.


I believe the 42 is essentially an MCU version of extremis. The way is is controlled through thought abd all that. Anyway, what he's theorized is that the hulkbuster works like the mark 42, whatever you want to call it.
 
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I believe the 42 is essentially an MCU version of extremis. The way is is controlled through thought abd all that. Anyway, what he's theorized is that the hulkbuster works like the mark 42, whatever you want to call it.

prehensile :lecture
 
Re: 1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Avengers: AOU - Hulkbuster

... care to explain..? cause the trailer shows that it work just like the 42 did..

I'd say anything is plausible in the Marvel cinematic universe & we're talking about Tony Stark here too so again, anything is doable. Lets not forget the man created a completely new element in order to stop himself from dying, how many people can say that? lol :)
 
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What's with all the correlation to the Mark 42 and extremis? I'm not sure what extremis was in the comics because i've never read that arc. But I do know that while Extremis was relevant in the movie, it had NOTHING to do with the armor, it's creation or it's remote assembly function. To insist otherwise is quite a stretch.
 
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What's with all the correlation to the Mark 42 and extremis? I'm not sure what extremis was in the comics because i've never read that arc. But I do know that while Extremis was relevant in the movie, it had NOTHING to do with the armor, it's creation or it's remote assembly function. To insist otherwise is quite a stretch.

The extremis part is the mind control and suit being in parts and then forming a full suit. So the 42 is the movie universe version of the extremis. Don't see how that's far fetched. Outside of Tony having the drug injected and the armor being shape fitting it's the same basic concept. A thought controlled stark armor that can form over Tony from pieces. In fact if you take that iconic scene where the armor is floating/flying around stark it has that same look as the movie(yes the armor isn't exactly the same but scene is)

Anyway...what this discussion was about is whether or not the HB armor worked like the mk42. For some reason Budget Stark wanted speculate that the HB was like the 42, though the trailer clearly shows that it has at least some of the same functions.
 
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The extremis part is the mind control and suit being in parts and then forming a full suit. So the 42 is the movie universe version of the extremis. Don't see how that's far fetched. Outside of Tony having the drug injected and the armor being shape fitting it's the same basic concept. A thought controlled stark armor that can form over Tony from pieces. In fact if you take that iconic scene where the armor is floating/flying around stark it has that same look as the movie(yes the armor isn't exactly the same but scene is)

Anyway...what this discussion was about is whether or not the HB armor worked like the mk42. For some reason Budget Stark wanted speculate that the HB was like the 42, though the trailer clearly shows that it has at least some of the same functions.

Are we talking about the comics or the movies? I'm talking about the movie... I never got the impression that Tony was injected with extremis to get the suit parts to come to him. I thought he just had implants near his wrists that connected to his nervous system... He taps on his wrist when they don't respond... He didn't even know about extremis until he was being held captive near the end of the movie and Maya demonstrated it. Now I have to watch the movie again.
 
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I never got the impression that Tony was injected with extremis to get the suit parts to come to him. I thought he just had implants near his wrists that connected to his nervous system... He taps on his wrist when they don't respond... Now I have to watch the movie again.

Extremis injection was comic. I was illustrating the difference between the two.
 
Re: 1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Avengers: AOU - Hulkbuster

Extremis was Killian's invention in the movie so its unlikely any of Tony's armors would use this term
 
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Extremis injection was comic. I was illustrating the difference between the two.

I got ya... I guess I failed to make my point the way I intended. which is this:

Extremis was Killian's invention in the movie so its unlikely any of Tony's armors would use this term

That's my point... Budget Stark calls Mark 42 and Hulkbuster "Extremis Armors" which is completely inaccurate when talking about the movies. If he was using it as reference to the comics, that was over my head. But either way, i'm not wrong. It's pretty clear that the HB armor assembles remotely and uses Mk 43 as the base. I'm not sure why it required a weird video to make that point. But my point is the word "Extremis" should have no part in that conversation.
 
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I got ya... I guess I failed to make my point the way I intended. which is this:



That's my point... Budget Stark calls Mark 42 and Hulkbuster "Extremis Armors" which is completely inaccurate when talking about the movies. If he was using it as reference to the comics, that was over my head. But either way, i'm not wrong. It's pretty clear that the HB armor assembles remotely and uses Mk 43 as the base. I'm not sure why it required a weird video to make that point. But my point is the word "Extremis" should have no part in that conversation.


I get it was over your head. Extremis was not Tony's invention in the comics either. It was essential the same thing, except in the comics he was injected and that's what gave him remote control over the armor, as opposed to the injected tech. Anyway, the effect was the same. And because of the effect, that's where the comic mk30 got the extremis name. And since iron man 3 was that comic story only adapted for the movie universe...that's where he got it.

You may not have understood it, but that doesn't make it wrong or out of place. He called it extremis instead of prehensile. Exact same thing. The armor wasn't effected by the extremis drug, only Tony, in the comics again. But the armor is called the extremis armor. So no, sorry, you are not "right". It's a movie based on comics, and in this case even a specific story. So if someone knows both versions and uses a term from one version to describe something in the other version it doesn't make them wrong, just because you don't know both. Just makes you less informed.
 
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Finally a great discussion on Budget starks extremis armour video.
I gave up yesterday thinking only smart-ass comments are allowed hear.

In MCU(iron man 3) extremis was used to heal legs and arms of war vets. so how is this associated with hulkbuster. That's what i want to know.

From what i understand Jarvis along with Tony's headgear are the one controling the actions o mark 42. The implanted injections are location markers for the mark 42 parts to dock to. Hence the boot section will not go to his face or chest area.
 
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... care to explain..? cause the trailer shows that it work just like the 42 did..

I'm referring to the notion of any armour suit made up of 10+ components each capable of controlled sustained flight, navigation, dynamic in-flight assembly and wirelessly controlled by thought.

Yes Tony Stark is a genius with unlimited funds but the suitcase suit and the MK VII 'torpedo' deployment are about as far as I can suspend my disbelief.
 
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I get it was over your head. Extremis was not Tony's invention in the comics either. It was essential the same thing, except in the comics he was injected and that's what gave him remote control over the armor, as opposed to the injected tech. Anyway, the effect was the same. And because of the effect, that's where the comic mk30 got the extremis name. And since iron man 3 was that comic story only adapted for the movie universe...that's where he got it.

You may not have understood it, but that doesn't make it wrong or out of place. He called it extremis instead of prehensile. Exact same thing. The armor wasn't effected by the extremis drug, only Tony, in the comics again. But the armor is called the extremis armor. So no, sorry, you are not "right". It's a movie based on comics, and in this case even a specific story. So if someone knows both versions and uses a term from one version to describe something in the other version it doesn't make them wrong, just because you don't know both. Just makes you less informed.

whatever, this is for a movie armor so the comic lore means nothing to me in this context. especially when it comes to separating elements from the two, and most of all when its so loosely based on the comics, like in this case. If you choose to believe prehensile and extremis are the same, thats up to you... but it is definitly not the same thing at all in the MCU whether you want to believe it or not, and that's what matters to me. It will never be refereed to as extremis anything in the movie, so your explanations that it's the same are just ridiculous.

Also putting the word "right" in quotes as if to quote/talk down to me only works when I used that word, which I didn't... I said I wasn't wrong, and when referring to the movie, i'm not. If mixing elements from comics to the movies based on loose interpretations makes you feel smarter than others, more power to you. With that kind of ass-backwards logic, I might as well start calling comic book Killian the Mandarin. :cuckoo:
 
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Re: 1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Avengers: AOU - Hulkbuster

I'd say anything is plausible in the Marvel cinematic universe & we're talking about Tony Stark here too so again, anything is doable. Lets not forget the man created a completely new element in order to stop himself from dying, how many people can say that? lol :)

Actually he just rediscovered it after Howard Stark did :wink1:
 
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Actually he just rediscovered it after Howard Stark did :wink1:

Yeah I know but he still made it because his father couldn't (limited by the technology of the time of course), anyway it's an impressive thing to be doing regardless. :)
 
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