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Re: Hot Toys Darth Vader Sixth Scale Figure

Agree on the too-bright gunmetal but you are quite an expert on Vader. What are your thoughts on the sculpt?

To me, the dome brow has issues but the facemask looks very close (the extreme looking-down angle and bright/back lighting might be responsible for the complaints people have) to being accurate. But would be interested in your thoughts.

The face mask sculpt is looking pretty good to me. The dome is just wrong. The main issue is the brow width above the eyes being too wide and there's something off about the dome skirt. Also, for ANH the inner dome skirt edge should be wider and not slope back - that's an ESB and RotJ trait - and the look on the current dome is clearly RotJ inspired. The comparison with that ESB style helmet that is likely the helmet used briefly at the end of RotJ just before they switched to the actual reveal helmet shows some of the issues with the dome in particular.

I agree that it is looking miles better than the Sideshow sculpt, but honestly, to me, it really wouldn't have taken much to top that. It also looks better than the Kaiyodo sculpt, which to me is as good as the Marmit sculpt - so again, for the face mask at least, it is right up there with what I consider the best helmet sculpts on 1:6 scale licensed figures.

Jack Bauer - the fact that you have an SL makes me kinda interested in what username you have on other forums, 'cause I don't recognize it from other boards. If you are willing to share it but not openly, you can always pm me. If you have direct contact with Hot Toys, I hope you can nudge them on making fixes.

Eye sockets on the ANH should be black - upper and lower and the front upper edge that is visible under the dome - the surface next to the nose bridge should be gunmetal. The black parting line on top of the nose at the surface with the nail marks under the eyes, should match the one seen in that ESB picture. The placement they have it at now is a predominantly ESB style look (even though the reference picture is an ESB style helmet, that parting line placement is atypical for most of the ESB helmets.

They need to lose that nose insert. Makes it look like a Rubies Supreme. Also, the ANH nose isn't silver, it's gunmetal.

If HT is partners with eFX, then they have no excuse for not getting the ANH helmet right, as they'd have the perfect reference from the eFX Vader helmet, regarding the shape. The paint scheme is another matter where the reference simply does not support their choices.

The Cinemaquette, if I remember correctly, is made from a scan off a real helmet - just assembled wrong. Unless you want to replicate the Hoth charge look seen briefly in ESB.

Regarding my own project we are still hoping to make that happen sometime next year.
 
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Pretty crazy when the Sideshow stuff looks better than the Hot Toys stuff. I'm glad they are getting on even footing at long last.

That 3PO looks insane.

3PO's body will look insane with a Tamashii head on it (still looks wonky in the video:gah:) The SSC 3PO's body looks awesome and the Tama head looks awesome... grrr.:lol



Pulled a still from Budget Stark's video and altered the color a bit to match the screencap. Budget Stark's are the first images to be taken from a slightly lower angle.

Angles of the helmets are slightly different (and HT's dome needs to go lower) but you get it.

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The face mask sculpt is looking pretty good to me. The dome is just wrong. The main issue is the brow width above the eyes being too wide and there's something off about the dome skirt. Also, for ANH the inner dome skirt edge should be wider and not slope back - that's an ESB and RotJ trait - and the look on the current dome is clearly RotJ inspired. The comparison with that ESB style helmet that is likely the helmet used briefly at the end of RotJ just before they switched to the actual reveal helmet shows some of the issues with the dome in particular.

Yeah the dome looks off a few ways. Hasbro to the rescue... again.:lol
 
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Nice comparison shot. Damn, Vader is one mean looking mutha in Star Wars. Hope HT gets a bit of that red tint to the lenses. Can see what people are saying about the dome, now. HT hasn't quite nailed how vicious Vader looks there but it's a damn fine effort.
 
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3PO's body will look insane with a Tamashii head on it (still looks wonky in the video:gah:) The SSC 3PO's body looks awesome and the Tama head looks awesome... grrr.:lol



Pulled a still from Budget Stark's video and altered the color a bit to match the screencap. Budget Stark's are the first images to be taken from a slightly lower angle.

Angles of the helmets are slightly different (and HT's dome needs to go lower) but you get it.

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The brow is throwing off the eyes, cheeks are too narrow, and the throat/neck is wrong too.
 
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The brow is throwing off the eyes, cheeks are too narrow, and the throat/neck is wrong too.

The dome in general is off and obviously needs to be lower. The brow sculpt itself seems too bulbous and the shape is off, but not sure what you mean by the cheeks. The gunmetal paint is too bright and shiny on the HT, and they've painted the gunmetal too far up onto the nose (making the nose seem thin,) so maybe that's what's catching your eye.

The throat/neck seems fine to me - maybe a little on the thin side. The angle on the helmets are slightly different, so may be making the line of the neck look different.
 
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I wonder if the rougher and dinged up paint job on the ANH Vader is a big reason he seems to look so much "meaner" in that movie as well.

Aside from all the other issues, the HT version just looks way too sleek and glossy, which to me is much more a characteristic of the later movies.
 
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The dome in general is off and obviously needs to be lower. The brow sculpt itself seems too bulbous and the shape is off, but not sure what you mean by the cheeks. The gunmetal paint is too bright and shiny on the HT, and they've painted the gunmetal too far up onto the nose (making the nose seem thin,) so maybe that's what's catching your eye.

The throat/neck seems fine to me - maybe a little on the thin side. The angle on the helmets are slightly different, so may be making the line of the neck look different.

You know where the cheeks meet with the tusks. Seem too angles and thin there.
 
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Pretty crazy when the Sideshow stuff looks better than the Hot Toys stuff. I'm glad they are getting on even footing at long last.

That 3PO looks insane.

I was thinking the same thing. All the crazy excitement surrounding the Hot Toys releases and the Sideshow stuff ends up looking as good or better in some cases. Pretty amazing. Great time to be a collector, terrible time to be financially responsible.
 
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I was thinking the same thing. All the crazy excitement surrounding the Hot Toys releases and the Sideshow stuff ends up looking as good or better in some cases. Pretty amazing. Great time to be a collector, terrible time to be financially responsible.

The Budget Stark guy never seems to think much of Sideshow... at all. His videos are great but he's totally disinterested by all the SSC stuff and seems 100% a HT fan.
 
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I wonder if the rougher and dinged up paint job on the ANH Vader is a big reason he seems to look so much "meaner" in that movie as well.

Aside from all the other issues, the HT version just looks way too sleek and glossy, which to me is much more a characteristic of the later movies.
Yep, I think that is the case. The roughness of the paint on ANH Vader's mask really does contribute to his thuggishness, along with the asymmetric mask.


The Budget Stark guy never seems to think much of Sideshow... at all. His videos are great but he's totally disinterested by all the SSC stuff and seems 100% a HT fan.
I don't get that vibe. He's very open that he's not a SW fan. He got lots of stuff wrong with HT's display, too (he caught himself in regards to whether Vader was up for pre-order). He said the Tauntaun looked great (plus 1:1 Boba Fett and Han in Carbonite) and acknowledged the criticisms of HT Vader and Obi-Wan. I just don't think he cares too much about anything other than Iron Man (and even there, his criticisms of Mark XLIII 1:4 scale didn't go down well w/the IM community, so he's not just a shill, IMO).
 
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Yep, I think that is the case. The roughness of the paint on ANH Vader's mask really does contribute to his thuggishness, along with the asymmetric mask.



I don't get that vibe. He's very open that he's not a SW fan. He got lots of stuff wrong with HT's display, too (he caught himself in regards to whether Vader was up for pre-order). He said the Tauntaun looked great (plus 1:1 Boba Fett and Han in Carbonite) and acknowledged the criticisms of HT Vader and Obi-Wan. I just don't think he cares too much about anything other than Iron Man (and even there, his criticisms of Mark XLIII 1:4 scale didn't go down well w/the IM community, so he's not just a shill, IMO).

"I believe they're... Sideshow products... but whether or not they're going to be reproduced by Hot Toys on a different... level, I don't know yet. This Tauntaun is pretty damn good though." "There's not many Sideshow products out here mainly because most people in Hong Kong buy Hot Toys.":lol

But yeah - he seems cool and doesn't seem to mean anything by it.
 
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Exactly Sol - he specifically says in the vid that he's pretty impressed with SSC' work.

Thanks for the vid Budget Stark - awesome. :duff

Pretty crazy when the Sideshow stuff looks better than the Hot Toys stuff. I'm glad they are getting on even footing at long last.

That 3PO looks insane.
Come on.. SOME. The pilot Luke is excellent. The Hoth Luke & Han figures - excellent. As mentioned though, stuff like 3PO's head needs work, & that Jango need fixing. The Bikerscout's helmet ain't right, & the life size ESB Boba has a pinhead too.

I'm loving all the HT figures - bar Chewie, so far. Vader looks absolutely kick***. Sure, it needs work, but it's already miles better than both SSC figures.

The Ben Kenobi - while, not 100% yet, is excellent too. The silly crap that's been posted about that figure.. **** me.

Go HT. :rock
 
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"I believe they're... Sideshow products... but whether or not they're going to be reproduced by Hot Toys on a different... level, I don't know yet. This Tauntaun is pretty damn good though." "There's not many Sideshow products out here mainly because most people in Hong Kong buy Hot Toys.":lol

But yeah - he seems cool and doesn't seem to mean anything by it.
Think you're reading it the wrong way, but whatever. As someone that likes a lot of what SSC does, I was happy to see him cover their displays and didn't get that impression at all.


The Bikerscout's helmet ain't right, & the life size ESB Boba has a pinhead too.

I'm loving all the HT figures - bar Chewie, so far. Vader looks absolutely kick***...

The Ben Kenobi - while, not 100% yet, is excellent too. The silly crap that's been posted about that figure.. **** me.
Bikerscout, whut? Pinhead ESB 1:1 Boba Fett? To me, both of those look excellent, by any measure. Honestly, I think that's 100% down to personal preference, unless it can be proven with frickin' calipers or something.

HT ANH Vader is kickass, 100%. I love it, and especially so the overhead shot, which I guess I am not supposed to like. They got a lot right.

Ben, though... Yes, it's beautifully detailed and modern, and captures "Ben" as a character (which is why I will happily order the two-pack, when it goes up), but you can't be saying the likeness is any good, can you? :thud:

It doesn't look anything like Guiness, and that's a fact. Best I could say for it is it looks a bit like they were going for SSC's Mythos Ben (McGregor/Guiness mix).
 
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Re: Hot Toys Darth Vader Sixth Scale Figure

Vintij, I love ya, but if this was Sideshow you would be slamming on the negative stuff on figure HARDcore.

Vintij has no where else to go for a 1/6 vader figure so he'll take whatever HT gives him and like it.

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Looking better...

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I think the HT Vader is as tall if not taller than the SS one looking at this photo and the Shadow Stormtrooper standing at his back shoulder. Hell, he's on a lower stand than the 1/4 scale Boba and doesn't look that much smaller. :lol

Vader looks like a home run to me.

Home run in a little league field you mean?......barely.
 
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