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I hope the custom one I picked up is ok - it isn't coming from Singapore but Hong Kong. I couldn't wait for the EB GoD to come out (June/July now?) and I am concerned about the staining issue some have complained about with previous GoD suits. If anyone has any comparison pics of a custom and a genuine EB suit I'd be keen to see it. Mine is arriving in the next week or so, fingers crossed it doesn't suck. At least the shoes will be the EB ones and not the molded ones, the pics I've seen of some examples aren't great.

Ive seen a custom one and honestly the fabrication is extremely poor. The cloth is kinda glazy and finishing is not too good... too bright and looks cheap and is too thick. The staining issue is universal, cheaper clothes have cheaper dies which can stain even more... EB's BEST GoD suit has to be the Nokia Edition one, it looked so much better...
 
sorry dude, not sure what you're saying.

I realize its been stated that the final version will have NO moving eyes but I was saying that the proto appears that it DOES have moving eyes.

Is this incorrect and the eyes are just permanently off center looking to the figures left, or is it a case of while the proto does have moving eyes the final one won't ?

Non of the protos have moving eyes on them. Protos are not made with moving eyes, all are painted, atleast in all the protos EB has shown till now. Even the BD proto shown in the Beijing Show had painted eyes and they said movable eyes will be added later in the production. So the eyes are painted to the left...
 
Ok, I have to admit if you have a degree that is pretty impressive and I should respect your authority on the matter... it does intrigue me to pry further...

Don't you think that the only real problem with HT muscle bodies is the rubber is too thick and too stiff? a thinner softer rubber would pose easier? just seems like today's new bodies are not articulate at all and the seams suck and the chick's bodies are already getting there...

So, how about $50? $50 bucks through paypal to you if by 18 months from now we don't see a new type of muscle body by HT? if you we do you send me $50? I don't mean on the market... just like sparrow or smiley bruce is now, just a proto

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You're prepared to put your money where your mouth is? Now it's my turn to be impressed. If I were a betting man I'd take you up on it :lol

Materials like rubber, silicon and plastic compounds can be really tricky to get right in manufacturing. There are so many problems that need a solution in 1/6 figures; a material that might come out well from the mold may not receive paint well. Or a material that is both durable and flexible may not reproduce sculpted detail well. Or a material that does everything else right may not faithfully accommodate the articulation of the armature underneath.

It seems to me that HT decided that the most important aspect of their figures was articulation. So even though they reached a pretty decent stage of seamless body evolution with King Leo, they evidently were not satisfied that the seamless nature of the figure adequately compensated for the loss of articulation presented by the rubber body. There could have been a range of other factors at play, this is just my best guess.

As for female figures, I can't think of any seamless female figure that has adequately addressed the posability/durability issues. TokyoDoll (previously Arte Tokyo) have all sorts of tearing issues and finishing paint apps are left to the user. TBL's female figure has folks complaining about the ratchety body but most of all the deformation of the elbows and knees when bending. Phicen have issues of tacky skin that is not easily dressed/undressed and attracts dust. Edaction has just released theirs and the flashing (parting lines) look poorly finished for the price point (headless figure around $130+). Here is a page that might interest you, it shows some comparisons of female bodies:

https://bbs.bbicn.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=109729

But look, I'm with you really - I hardly pose my figures, so I'd prefer seamless joints to take priority over articulation. The big exceptions are figures like Bruce Lee, that demand maximum posability! We obviously want the same thing - awesome, seamless figures that pose well and last. We are only really quibbling about how long it will take for companies like HT to deliver. If I'm saying no way will it happen in 18 months, I can't say confidently that it won't happen in 24 months :)

Ive seen a custom one and honestly the fabrication is extremely poor. The cloth is kinda glazy and finishing is not too good... too bright and looks cheap and is too thick. The staining issue is universal, cheaper clothes have cheaper dies which can stain even more... EB's BEST GoD suit has to be the Nokia Edition one, it looked so much better...

oh bummer. No matter, I'm sure once the GoD is released we'll see quite a number of parted out ones (though everyone will be fighting over the shoes). From the pics it's hard to tell any discernible difference between some of the customs I've seen and the legit ones. To my eye anyway. When I get my custom in the post I think I'll know straight away whether I'll be able to live with it.
 
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Non of the protos have moving eyes on them. Protos are not made with moving eyes, all are painted, atleast in all the protos EB has shown till now. Even the BD proto shown in the Beijing Show had painted eyes and they said movable eyes will be added later in the production. So the eyes are painted to the left...

ah okay, gotcha
 
oh bummer. No matter, I'm sure once the GoD is released we'll see quite a number of parted out ones (though everyone will be fighting over the shoes). From the pics it's hard to tell any discernible difference between some of the customs I've seen and the legit ones. To my eye anyway. When I get my custom in the post I think I'll know straight away whether I'll be able to live with it.

I might part out one of the suits when I get it...
 
Thought I would share my Bruce Set up:

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Genius!
 
Genius indeed, but i would pe affraid to have him like that. What if one cord will snap? What if you move the detolf slightly and bruce would start to swing? :panic:

not at all my friend...

I have tested it like crazy, Bruce can swing around no problem, if there is a mild earthquake he won't fall at all...

it is actually quite strange how balanced this statue is...

and the rope is super strong, pressed down with my hand very hard and won't break or move...
 
Thought I would share my Bruce Set up:

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Darn detolf shelf not tall enough, oh well, screw the glass -

:clap Wow, I like the concept! This set-up is very original! Though I'm a bit scared by using those chains cause the balance of the stat might rock or something. Best of luck dude! :wink1:
 
Yep I'm arguing with that, why don't you wait 12 to 18 months which is what I'm predicting before you say I'm wrong, like you know for sure. That is why it's a prediction. and you get double coo koo for arguing something you don't know anymore than I do...:cuckoo::cuckoo:

12 to 18 months

I will never understand why new members, who've been collecting only a couple of years, suddenly pop up and all of a sudden they're authorities on a subject most of us have been collecting and discussing since licensing announcements, well before their migration from TRU kiddie garbage. :lol

I think they'd be better served finding innovative ways to hide or lessen the joints
eg. the way Enterbay's older bodies connected almost seamlessly midfoream.

Also, is that smiling sculpt proto using moveable eyes? The one at the event and in the pic above clearly shows the eyes off center, looking off to the figures left.

HELL NO! Leave the cut joints to Hasbro, Matty, NECA and McFarlane. It's not "innovative," it's primitive. Cut joints belong on the Kenner figures of old, we all enjoyed almost three decades ago. Seeing cut joints on high-end figures makes them look like cheap kiddie toys.
 
:clap Wow, I like the concept! This set-up is very original! Though I'm a bit scared by using those chains cause the balance of the stat might rock or something. Best of luck dude! :wink1:

Thanks jayveeeusebio, I might just scrap the rope and chain and use a custom clear plastic table like piece... it's always evolving, but it's gotta stay in detolf :wink1:
 
HELL NO! Leave the cut joints to Hasbro, Matty, NECA and McFarlane. It's not "innovative," it's primitive. Cut joints belong on the Kenner figures of old, we all enjoyed almost three decades ago. Seeing cut joints on high-end figures makes them look like cheap kiddie toys.

I don't get the logic.
Big obvious joints everywhere is okay but Enterbay hiding the wrist attachment makes it look like a cheap kiddie toy?
 
I don't get the logic.
Big obvious joints everywhere is okay but Enterbay hiding the wrist attachment makes it look like a cheap kiddie toy?

"Action Figures" should have articulation. Now when you consider articulation by itself, you can see where we've been and how advancements in engineering have lead up to the current figures. It's two different debates really. I'd prefer more articulation that allows for several ways of movement for maximum poseability for "action figures" than the measly two points of articulation a cut joint permits. If you're arguing aesthetics, I would question interest in action figures with cut joints anyway. Cut joints with their static movement lean away from the articulation an "action figure" should have. Why not just make the jump to statues? :huh
 
There is a debate on Enterbay facebook regarding freedom of speech. The owner of Enterbay facebook removed people posts who against Enterbay and reasoned as these posts are not "constructive criticism". They even blocked these users to put more messages in their page (including myself). Recently many people are fed up about this. Please have a look and use your own judgment. Support what you think is right. Thanks.
 
There is a debate on Enterbay facebook regarding freedom of speech. The owner of Enterbay facebook removed people posts who against Enterbay and reasoned as these posts are not "constructive criticism". They even blocked these users to put more messages in their page (including myself). Recently many people are fed up about this. Please have a look and use your own judgment. Support what you think is right. Thanks.

Their personal facebook page, not yours. They have every right to do with it what they want so long as it doesn't violate the user agreement. :huh
 
Hi, I posted this on the other Hot Toys Bruce Lee thread just noticed this one and thought i'd post my shots here as well. :)




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Does anyone here have the Enterbay Ip man with RM4 body that they could pose with the DX04? I would love to see the scale diff... Thinking about picking one up.. Ip man.
 
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